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Punching a woman - Justified or not? - MOD WARNING FIRST POST

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    #452
    kiffer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    In a violent confrontation it would be best to think and choose the best most sensible solution/reaction.
    But people don't.
    They go straight to fight/flight/freeze...
    It takes a lot of experience to react in a non instinctive manner.


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    #453
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    bumper234 wrote: »
    You are also extremely unlikely to attack someone for no reason.

    Not because of my size. Because I'm a normal human being. Even if I was six foot tall, I wouldn't hit someone and knock them to the ground. Which is what both the 'aggressor' and the OP did.


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    #454
    jamo2oo9
    Registered Users Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    sopretty, this was my first time I hit a girl and to be honest, if another girl decided to punch any of my female friends, I'd probably slap them in the face to cop the fúck on too.


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    #455
    irelandrover
    Registered Users Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    sopretty wrote: »
    Not because of my size. Because I'm a normal human being. Even if I was six foot tall, I wouldn't hit someone and knock them to the ground. Which is what both the 'aggressor' and the OP did.

    Do you really not see the difference in the two acts?
    Randomly punching someone and then defending the person who was punched are completely different.

    Why is aggressor in quotation marks? are you suggesting that hte person who threw the first punch is not the aggressor?


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    #456
    kiffer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    sopretty wrote: »
    Not because of my size. Because I'm a normal human being. Even if I was six foot tall, I wouldn't hit someone and knock them to the ground. Which is what both the 'aggressor' and the OP did.

    There is a wide range of normal in human beings...


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    #457
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    bumper234 wrote: »
    If your daughter was 18, If your daughter as in a night club with you, If someone attacked your daughter for no reason.....would you hit that person to protect your daughter from further attack?

    No.

    For a start, she is well reared, so would walk away. We're not an aggressive bunch. I would restrain as best I could, anyone trying to attack her, but even if I had the strength, I would not deliver a potentially lethal blow to whoever attacked her.

    In any case, the OP wasn't trying to restrain the 'aggressor'. He just whacked her in retaliation.

    Fair enough. Probably felt proud given his small stature, knocking down a 6 foot tall WOMAN. Definitely one to be proud of.


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    #458
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    sopretty wrote: »
    No.

    For a start, she is well reared, so would walk away. We're not an aggressive bunch. I would restrain as best I could, anyone trying to attack her, but even if I had the strength, I would not deliver a potentially lethal blow to whoever attacked her.

    In any case, the OP wasn't trying to restrain the 'aggressor'. He just whacked her in retaliation.

    Fair enough. Probably felt proud given his small stature, knocking down a 6 foot tall WOMAN. Definitely one to be proud of.

    Lol

    How would she "Walk away" when she has just been knocked to the ground?
    How would you "restrain" someone who is attacking your child?
    Not every blow is "potentially lethal"

    :rolleyes:


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    #459
    Vito Corleone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭Vito Corleone


    The passive aggressive digs aren't doing you any favours sopetty.


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    #460
    irelandrover
    Registered Users Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    sopretty wrote: »
    No.

    For a start, she is well reared, so would walk away. We're not an aggressive bunch. I would restrain as best I could, anyone trying to attack her, but even if I had the strength, I would not deliver a potentially lethal blow to whoever attacked her.

    In any case, the OP wasn't trying to restrain the 'aggressor'. He just whacked her in retaliation.

    Fair enough. Probably felt proud given his small stature, knocking down a 6 foot tall WOMAN. Definitely one to be proud of.

    I love this line. Anyone who has ever been randomly attacked is not well reared.

    How would you restrain an attacker? You are only 5"4.


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    #461
    doolox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭doolox


    ...would I hit a woman. Say if she had a knife or gun ready to kill me.

    I am aware that police now go to domestic fights with back-up to watch the female partners of these ( usually but not always male ) attacks.

    Several policemen have been attacked seriously by women victims after they intervened and subdued the male attacker usually a partner.

    Experience has shown them that a second police officer is needed to watch their backs and contain the woman victim and prevent an attack from her.

    While I have never been put in the situation where I would be tempted to strike out at a woman I know and have seen times between my two parents where it came close to a fight. Dad had been hit several times and abused by my mother and she got it back verbally but never physically from my dad. I can say that in todays world they would have separated but they were given enough time to make up and ended their lives in good terms.

    I have known people who did batter their wives and it is a sickening thing.


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    #462
    jamo2oo9
    Registered Users Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    sopretty wrote: »
    No.

    For a start, she is well reared, so would walk away. We're not an aggressive bunch. I would restrain as best I could, anyone trying to attack her, but even if I had the strength, I would not deliver a potentially lethal blow to whoever attacked her.

    In any case, the OP wasn't trying to restrain the 'aggressor'. He just whacked her in retaliation.

    Fair enough. Probably felt proud given his small stature, knocking down a 6 foot tall WOMAN. Definitely one to be proud of.

    Wow, I certainly wouldn't make you in charge of an army. Someone taunts you and you just stand your ground. Someone shoots your soldier, you still stand your ground. Someone invades, you still fúcking stand your ground without doing anything? Not even retaliate :confused:


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    #463
    kiffer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    sopretty wrote: »
    No.

    For a start, she is well reared, so would walk away. We're not an aggressive bunch. I would restrain as best I could, anyone trying to attack her, but even if I had the strength, I would not deliver a potentially lethal blow to whoever attacked her.

    In any case, the OP wasn't trying to restrain the 'aggressor'. He just whacked her in retaliation.

    Fair enough. Probably felt proud given his small stature, knocking down a 6 foot tall WOMAN. Definitely one to be proud of.

    Oooooh burn... ragging on his height? 5'10'' is pretty average not really small stature.
    You're losing your moral high ground now...


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    #464
    pundy
    Registered Users Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    doolox wrote: »
    ...would I hit a woman. Say if she had a knife or gun ready to kill me.

    I am aware that police now go to domestic fights with back-up to watch the female partners of these ( usually but not always male ) attacks.

    Several policemen have been attacked seriously by women victims after they intervened and subdued the male attacker usually a partner.

    Experience has shown them that a second police officer is needed to watch their backs and contain the woman victim and prevent an attack from her.

    While I have never been put in the situation where I would be tempted to strike out at a woman I know and have seen times between my two parents where it came close to a fight. Dad had been hit several times and abused by my mother and she got it back verbally but never physically from my dad. I can say that in todays world they would have separated but they were given enough time to make up and ended their lives in good terms.

    I have known people who did batter their wives and it is a sickening thing.


    that's woman/wife beating though... the OP situation is totally different to that.


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    #465
    Un Croissant
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    I'm 5.10 :/


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    #466
    runawaybishop
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    sopretty wrote: »
    No.

    For a start, she is well reared, so would walk away. We're not an aggressive bunch. I would restrain as best I could, anyone trying to attack her, but even if I had the strength, I would not deliver a potentially lethal blow to whoever attacked her.

    In any case, the OP wasn't trying to restrain the 'aggressor'. He just whacked her in retaliation.

    Fair enough. Probably felt proud given his small stature, knocking down a 6 foot tall WOMAN. Definitely one to be proud of.

    Just come out and say it - you only care that it was a woman who was punched. The whiff of sexism in here.


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    #467
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Just come out and say it - you only care that it was a woman who was punched. The whiff of sexism in here.

    Have wondered several times myself how much less outrage there would be if the tale was flipped and it was a large male who attacked another male and a female friend had punched the aggressor.


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    #468
    Nemeses
    Registered Users Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    I'm still waiting for the punchline....


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    #469
    Czarcasm
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    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Just come out and say it - you only care that it was a woman who was punched. The whiff of sexism in here.


    Complaining about sexism in a thread trying to justify scumbag behaviour? Mind you don't fall off your piebald pony.


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    #470
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Complaining about sexism in a thread trying to justify scumbag behaviour? Mind you don't fall off your piebald pony.

    Not everyone sees protecting a friend as "scumbag behaviour".


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    #471
    beano345
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭beano345


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Have wondered several times myself how much less outrage there would be if the tale was flipped and it was a large male who attacked another male and a female friend had punched the aggressor.

    There probably wouldn't even be a thread on it and if there was it would be "you go girl"


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    #472
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Complaining about sexism in a thread trying to justify scumbag behaviour? Mind you don't fall off your piebald pony.
    I never once tried to justify that girl hitting the other girl, nor did i see anyone else :/


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    #473
    dunworth1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    felling like i want to punch one of my female work colleges right now.
    i asked her last week to order something for a customer she said there is a backlog
    i said grand.

    today the boss asks her she says nope didnt know anything about it.
    boss gives out to both of us.

    then she rings me saying i didn't ask her even though I did.
    we get into the usual
    me: yes i did
    her: no you didnt

    type thing then she starts F and Blinding and just says ok and hangs up.

    has totally ruined the rest of my day.


    what lesson did i learn?
    ask everything in an email


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    #474
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    dunworth1 wrote: »
    felling like i want to punch one of my female work colleges right now.
    i asked her last week to order something for a customer she said there is a backlog
    i said grand.

    today the boss asks her she says nope didnt know anything about it.
    boss gives out to both of us.

    then she rings me saying i didn't ask her even though I did.
    we get into the usual
    me: yes i did
    her: no you didnt

    tyoe thing then she starts F and Blinding and just says ok and hangs up.

    has totally ruined the rest of my day.

    That's why you use email for requests


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    #475
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    dunworth1 wrote: »
    felling like i want to punch one of my female work colleges right now.
    i asked her last week to order something for a customer she said there is a backlog
    i said grand.

    today the boss asks her she says nope didnt know anything about it.
    boss gives out to both of us.

    then she rings me saying i didn't ask her even though I did.
    we get into the usual
    me: yes i did
    her: no you didnt

    tyoe thing then she starts F and Blinding and just says ok and hangs up.

    has totally ruined the rest of my day.

    Have you heard of email?


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    #476
    Sir Arthur Daley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    dunworth1 wrote: »
    felling like i want to punch one of my female work colleges right now.

    Dont do it, you could face serious assault charges, loose your job and potentially destroy your career.


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    #477
    dunworth1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    sopretty wrote: »
    Have you heard of email?
    yep use it all the time

    but where a small shop and normally don't need to have to formally request.

    the boss wasn't too bothered about it neither was i until she started ranting and raving


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    #478
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    dunworth1 wrote: »
    yep use it all the time

    but where a small shop and normally don't need to have to formally request.

    the boss wasn't too bothered about it neither was i until she started ranting and raving

    No reason to punch her then I take it?


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    #479
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Vito Corleone wrote: »
    Oh Czarcasm is here now, everyone go say Three Hail Marys.


    Just the one hail mary will do, least that's all it took by the OPs account of events anyway. I shudder to think how he'd have fared had his opponent been sober - picking bits of his teeth out of his testicles I'd imagine. That's why I advised earlier that he not make a habit of white knighting and he and his mate get the hell out of there instead. That's how you look after a mate.

    On this occasion he got lucky the girl was on her own, because they're usually not!


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    #480
    dunworth1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    sopretty wrote: »
    No reason to punch her then I take it?

    ah just needed to vent my rage and this thread appeared before me


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    #481
    [Deleted User]
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    if she punched me first id punch her right back


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