Punching a woman - Justified or not? - MOD WARNING FIRST POST

jamo2oo9

So I was out last night with the lads, few pints and shots were had and then I went straight for the dancefloor looking to settle for my score for the night. As I was going through different women on the floor, I danced with them for a bit to see if they were interested. If not, I'd move on to the next one. At one stage, there was a "wide-bodied lady" (should say well-built tall girl..) and I didn't want to look like an arsehole, ignoring her so I danced with her for a bit but moved on as I wasn't interested.

Next I met my friend so I started chatting up with her until suddenly, I was pushed aside by this lady I danced before and she floored my friend. Gave my friend a bloody nose so I reacted instantly and decked her in the face. When she fell, she looked like the twin towers falling. I never met this idiot before and I was lost at why did she punch my friend for no reason. Jealousy?


Was that punch I threw justified or did I step over the line?




MOD: There's a mod warning in post #241 that I'm posting below.

Firstly, no this thread isn't remaining locked. The actual topic is of interest to enough people to have over 200 posts.

Secondly, the language in the OP isn't acceptable. Nor is repeating it in order to get a reaction out of people. If anything, the near unanimous condemning of the OP's language is more important than hiding away the thread.

Thirdly, if something someone posts offends you, report them. Don't resort to insulting them.

Lastly, don't drag threads off-topic. There's a forum charter. Read it and obey it. Don't post off-topic to point out that someone is in breach of the charter, because that itself is in breach of the charter.


Oh, and when reporting posts, try to give the passive aggressiveness a miss. It doesn't help matters.

The TL;DR version is, ignore the OP's insults towards the woman in question, don't insult anyone and be polite.

ElleEm

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

So I was out last night with the lads, few pints and shots were had and then I went straight for the dancefloor looking to settle for my score for the night. As I was going through different women on the floor, I danced with them for a bit to see if they were interested. If not, I'd move on to the next one. At one stage, there was a "fat bitch" and I didn't want to look like an arsehole, ignoring her so I danced with her for a bit but moved on as I wasn't interested.

Next I met my friend so I started chatting up with her until suddenly, I was pushed aside by this fat bitch I danced before and she floored my friend. Gave my friend a bloody nose so I reacted instantly and decked her in the face. When she fell, she looked like the twin towers falling. I never met this cúnt before and I was lost at why did she punch my friend for no reason. Jealousy?


Was that punch I threw justified or did I step over the line?

You have to be trolling!

Dravokivich

Justified is giving a guy 24 hours to get out of town and then shooting him dead when he tries to pull a gun on you under the table in a beach side restaurant.

What you did there, was not that.

Sam Kade

Or dreaming

jamo2oo9

ElleEm wrote: »

You have to be trolling!

This is no trolling. I promise.

Duggy747

Well, aren't you just a bundle of joy?

Did you sucker punch her because she punched your friend?

notnumber

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

What should have I done instead?

Shifted her ..sounds like you two would be a good match.

Legs.Eleven

It's gas how nothing shocks me on Boards anymore.

salmocab

Hilarious, I presume your friend was a girl, you weren't justified and I'm sure that lots of people will be telling you that here now and prepare for a **** storm over your description of the girl.

OldMrBrennan83

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Tokyo

Were you acting in self defense? Nope. Then you were just being a dick, regardless of the gender of the person you punched.

kneemos

Sound like you hate women.Are you gay?

on the river

Never never ever hit a women. you should be ashamed. go and apologise immediatly

Riesen_Meal

"Big man" - hitting a woman.....

In all honesty, what response do you want here?

Fair enough she hit your mate but surely there was a better way to sort things out?

Lapin

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

It's gas how nothing shocks me on Boards anymore.

I'm only shocked that this thread hasn't been locked yet.

GarIT

I think justified, you were defending your friend, gender is irrelevant.

There probably was a better way to sort it, but I stand by justified.

FTA69

The thing about violence is that it's not something easily measured or contained, which is why it should never be deployed in the first place. If you choose to engage in violence then you need to be aware of the fact that it works both ways and there's a pretty solid chance you'll be getting what you dish out and more to boot. Gender doesn't come into it whatsoever.

Having worked as a doorman I've seen women engage in pretty savage acts of violence including glassing, ripping someone's ear off (dangling ear-rings are a no no in a scrap) as well as splitting someone's head open with a stiletto. The latter occurred against a colleague of mine at the hands of some b*tch who was a member of a notorious crime family in Cork.

While people should always be controlled to the best of their ability, that sometimes goes out the window when some lunatic starts trying to rake your face open with her nails or throw a bottle of Bud off your head.

I hate violence. It's a terrible thing.

tallaghtmick

This thread is full of wow.

It would have been sexist if you didn't punch her.

OldNotWIse

I can't figure out why OP is still single....

gumbo1

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

This is no trolling. I promise.

You absolute scumbag! "Flooring a fat bitch" forany reason is never justified. I ccertainly hope that you got floored shortly afterwards!

Sadderday

I don't think you should have punched a girl in the face.

If she had attacked you and it was self defence ..... I dunno but in this situation I don't think it was justified No.

Let the bouncers deal with this sort of person, your friend could press charges ?

We all want to punch someone at some stage, it's not always OK to do it though.

iDave

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

When she fell, she looked like the twin towers falling.

Trying to visualise this. Did the weigh of her head collapse down into her body until completely imploded and then a pulverised debris cloud spread out in every direction?

homerjay2005

in general no...


but looking at some of the dirty headed scangers around the place, who look like they'd do serious damage if allow to let lose, then yes...exceptions can be allowed and justified.

Cantremember

Equality is equality. Put gender out of it and ask did you need to drop someone to stop an attack on your friend? If the answer is yes, you are justified. If the answer is no, you are not.

Calibos

What junior disco did this incident occur at OP?

Jimminy Mc Fukhead

You can't "deck her in the face".
To deck someone is like flooring them. You knock them on the deck. With a punch.
If you want to emphasize the punching action you could say you 'chinned' her. Burst/clout/clip/dig.

No Pants

Gannicus

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

So I was out last night with the lads, few pints and shots were had and then I went straight for the dancefloor looking to settle for my score for the night. As I was going through different women on the floor, I danced with them for a bit to see if they were interested. If not, I'd move on to the next one. At one stage, there was a "fat bitch" and I didn't want to look like an arsehole, ignoring her so I danced with her for a bit but moved on as I wasn't interested.

Next I met my friend so I started chatting up with her until suddenly, I was pushed aside by this fat bitch I danced before and she floored my friend. Gave my friend a bloody nose so I reacted instantly and decked her in the face. When she fell, she looked like the twin towers falling. I never met this cúnt before and I was lost at why did she punch my friend for no reason. Jealousy?


Was that punch I threw justified or did I step over the line?

Had they punched you in the face, floored you & left you with a bloody nose and then you socked her one back I'd say fair enough but in this instance no you were not justified. You sucker punched a person who sucker punched another person.

jamo2oo9

mike_ie wrote: »

Were you acting in self defense? Nope. Then you were just being a dick, regardless of the gender of the person you punched.

Yeah, I was acting in for my friend. She was still on the floor.

Fieldog wrote: »

"Big man" - hitting a woman.....

In all honesty, what response do you want here?

Fair enough she hit your mate but surely there was a better way to sort things out?

This was in the middle of the dancefloor, I don't think there was room for a solution verbally. I wasn't thinking straight anyway and I saw that she hit my friend so I just threw the punch into her face in retaliation.

GarIT wrote: »

I think justified, you were defending your friend, gender is irrelevant.

There probably was a better way to sort it, but I stand by justified.

There could've been but as I said above, I wasn't thinking straight and I probably reacted too quickly.

Duggy747

iDave wrote: »

Trying to visualise this. Did the weigh of her head collapse down into her body until completely imploded and then a pulverised debris cloud spread out in every direction?

I'd say it was an inside job and somebody put explosives inside her to make it look like she was falling from a punch.

Jimminy Mc Fukhead

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

she looked like the twin towers falling.

iDave wrote: »

Trying to visualise this. Did the weigh of her head collapse down into her body until completely imploded and then a pulverised debris cloud spread out in every direction?

Is there a conspiracy at work here. An inside job as Jim Corr would say. Did she fall from the punch or some carefully placed explosives?


Edit: great minds duggy

eviltwin

So you respond to scummy behaviour by engaging in the same scummy behaviour yourself. There is no excuse for violence, it wasn't self defense, you reacted to the situation with violence rather than make sure your friend was okay, call security or anyone of many other things you could have done. Have you done this before?

The Backwards Man

So, was she a 'fat bitch' before or after she hit your friend?

Actually, I don't really care, don't bother answering.

gavindublin

If the whale had of hit me then yeah id have cracked her one back. Gender has no standing in my rule book

. But not just cause free willy was issusing out smackdowns to randomers.

did you at least get a sympathy ride out of it??

jamo2oo9

Big Steve wrote: »

Had they punched you in the face, floored you & left you with a bloody nose and then you socked her one back I'd say fair enough but in this instance no you were not justified. You sucker punched a person who sucker punched another person.

But my friend was defenseless and she was on the floor, looking up to a 6ft 15st bitch. Don't think she was exactly in the position to fight her so I step in.

Highflyer13

on the river wrote: »

Never never ever hit a women. you should be ashamed. go and apologise immediatly

Dont agree with this. Equality is equality and there is the very rare situation in which you should. If its self defence im all for it. My friend was attacked by a pscho girl with a broken glass bottle and if he had the courage to hit her first while she attacked him with her hands rather than trying to stop her he wouldn't have sustained the injuries he did when she eventually bottled him.

OldNotWIse

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

But my friend was defenseless and she was on the floor, looking up to a 6ft 15st bitch. Don't think she was exactly in the position to fight her so I step in.

Should have juct chucked a bottle of baby oil on them and enjoyed the show.

iDave

Duggy747 wrote: »

I'd say it was an inside job and somebody put explosives inside her to make it look like she was falling from a punch.

Jimminy Mc Fukhead wrote: »

Is there a conspiracy at work here. An inside job as Jim Corr would say. Did she fall from the punch or some carefully placed explosives?


Edit: great minds duggy

I'd say he deliberately starting talking to someone else to provoke her to punch the friend. Then public opinion would then allow him to launch an attack on the fat bitch. Its so obvious. How cant people see this.

wes

While the OPs description is less than kind, I do have to wonder if people would have the same problem, if the OP punched a man who had punched his friend?

The way I see it, if you go around punching people, you really shouldn't be surprised if someone punches you back. Gender is irrelevant to the situation imho. Now maybe there was a better way to handle things, e.g. calling security etc, but its hard to say with so little detail.

131spanner

Most of the time I'd be really against lads hitting women and all that...

But when a ho needs to be put back in line...

pundy

she totally deserved it.

might teach her a lesson to act a bit more ladylike in future - knowing that men WILL possibly hit her back if she does anything like that again.

plus, as you said, she was a fat b!tch, so it's a case of the OP saying "pick on someone your own size"...

the_monkey

Just listen to Sir Sean Connery here :

Gannicus

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

But my friend was defenseless and she was on the floor, looking up to a 6ft 15st bitch. Don't think she was exactly in the position to fight her so I step in.

Get in the middle and stop it with out going "In Bruges" on Viscera.




P.s. 15 Stone for someone who is 6ft isn't that big either.

The Backwards Man

I've said it before and I'll say it again, there's nothing like one simple three letter word to allow people show their true colours.

kiffer

If you are going to throw a punch be ready to take a punch...
If someone punched my friend in the face while I was talking to them I don't known if I would waste time trying to work out if the attacker was male or female...
In as short a time as possible you need to decide:
Is this person going to keep hitting my friend?
Is this person going to hit me?
How dangerous is this person?

Women in general *might* be less violent then men but once she threw that punch she's shown that she's a violent person...
Men might be in general stronger than women, but a glass, knife or other weapon will still cut you up.
Any attacker whether male or female may be a serious threat.

I think as a gut reaction hitting a person attacking your friend is not much worse if they are female than male.
Ideally, if she wasn't throwing more punches you shouldn't have hit her... getting her on assault changes would have been better in the long run.

iDave

This has to be the dumbest thread since that lad who wanted to ask some other lads girlfriend out to a wedding.

mikehunts

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again, there's nothing like one simple three letter word to allow people show their true colours.

Red is it

The Backwards Man

mikehunts wrote: »

Red is it

Yeah that's the one. Red bastards and bitches everywhere.

bumper234

on the river wrote: »

Never never ever hit a women. you should be ashamed. go and apologise immediatly

erm no!

i once knocked a woman clean out because she came at me with a broken glass with all intents of slicing me open. Should i have put my hands out in a non aggressive manner and tried to engage her in calming dialogue?

gavindublin

bumper234 wrote: »

erm no!

i once knocked a woman clean out because she came at me with a broken glass with all intents of slicing me open. Should i have put my hands out in a non aggressive manner and tried to engage her in calming dialogue?

Was she fat? ?