Free alternative to Adverts.ie

miamee

Most of the answers should be here anyway http://www.adverts.ie/help/success-fees-faq

daRobot

I actually think a yearly fee of 5 euro for anyone selling would be tolerable. I'd happily pay that, and surely that would cover the costs of running the site, and retain the users.

Of course that would not generate anywhere near the revenue that the new changes might (assuming they retain a high proportion of sellers). But for me, now, I'd rather put up an add on donedeal, pay my fee upfront and be much more confident that a plethora of buyers won't have the neck to ring me up and offer me 100 euro for a 500 euro item.

wmpdd3

There are so many ways to get around this, just withdraw the item and arrange to buy outside adverts. This is ireland, you'll find the buyer not like ebay where its not so easy.



Also,if someone agrees a sale and then goes awal as usual, you have to have confirmation by PM that the other person pulled out, not a hope.

clerk

wmpdd3 wrote: »

Also,if someone agrees a sale and then goes awal as usual, you have to have confirmation by PM that the other person pulled out, not a hope.

This happened to me only last week. Got a load of dopey on thred correspondence from this total messer on an ad who eventually bid asking and then naturally gave me no response to any pms or comments !!! Total waste of time. Now l might be charged a fee and have to chase adverts for a refund, more waste of time.

The PM decision put me right off and l've sold nothing since it came in. It's clear that it was done because fees were coming in, no other reason. They never admitted that at the time, it's all very cynical the whole thing.

This will be only the beginning, some people say the fees are only €1 etc. but the fees will go up over time guaranteed if they're not getting as much as the pie as they want.

Charging the fee on the ad amount is taking the p, l've never received the full amount on any ad l've put on adverts, every ad gets low balled. One person bid €10 once on an item i was selling for €20 and l accepted and then they told me they wanted it delivered and it was a 70km round trip for the €10 including the product. unbelievable !!!, you couldn't make it up.

So now l have to pay and l can't even PM, bit of a joke really.

All immediate decisions to leave adverts aside it will in reality way reduce my site usage as the PM thing has done anyway.

Not a happy customer at all.

As somebody said if they charged €5 per Annum to use the site l'd pay no bother if they brought back the PMs, it all gone a bit Pete Tong.

Nerro

OSI wrote: »

Yet again, you're not charged UNTIL YOU MARK THE AD AS SOLD!

Give them a week or two...as soon as everybody start to complain about all the "dead" ads they are going to make the site even "better".

clerk

OSI wrote: »

Yet again, you're not charged UNTIL YOU MARK THE AD AS SOLD!

Yes - but all the rubbish is still on my ad and there is no assistance with the non payment and now they want to charge me for using the site. lf l use e-Bay for example l have none of this rubbish.

It was a good site for free for non-commercial users but the product is not good enough to start paying for.

ozmo

OSI wrote: »

Yet again, you're not charged UNTIL YOU MARK THE AD AS SOLD!

Ive had an advert closed marked as sold on me against my wishes by a mod.


It was a mystery old reel of projector film and I asked the buyer to post what it was for all the curious other bidders when it was played- but a mod closed the sale for me before they could reply.

Hootanany

ozmo wrote: »

Ive had an advert closed marked as sold on me against my wishes by a mod.


It was a mystery old reel of projector film and I asked the buyer to post what it was for all the curious other bidders when it was played- but a mod closed the sale for me before they could reply.

:eek:

Slingers

Everyone try this site

Pinit.ie


It's as clean cut as adverts and most importantly FREE. It's not too populated yet, but lets try and change that. It has all the functionality of adverts and maybe slightly better in places. I'm putting all my ads up there even though I have none above €30 as I won't support this money grab.

rockhardrocker

I was wondering if I initially set up an ad that's €29, then once the ad is live I go and immediately edit it to €35 and mark it as sold, would I be charged the €1 fee?....i.e. if you go back and edit the ad to increase the price right after posting would you be asked to pay a fee?

MilanPan!c

Slingers wrote: »

Everyone try this site

Pinit.ie


It's as clean cut as adverts and most importantly FREE. It's not too populated yet, but lets try and change that. It has all the functionality of adverts and maybe slightly better in places. I'm putting all my ads up there even though I have none above €30 as I won't support this money grab.

It's missing all the categories I'd use.

Fries-With-That

I am curious, are the posters that are so fulsome in their praise of this move by adverts commercial users.

I'm having difficulty in understanding why anyone would praise/defend a move that is clearly designed to commercialise a site that has heretofore been community based.

I find the premium adverts frustrating but I tolerate them, do adverts realise that numerous premium adverts for one spanner or whatever you're having yourself are only aimed at those people in the same geographical area as the seller.

Its not practical or profitable to post a spanner/whatever you're selling for €7 and the potential buyer won't pay €3.50 to have it posted, if they can buy it in a hardware locally for under a €10.

The logic of a success fee eludes me, if you're going commercial go commercial but stop pretending to be a free adverts website when clearly there is a fee.

People seem to have an issue with the PM system, I thought that no PMS until an offer was accepted was a good idea as it was designed to police the hundreds of dead adverts, where the buyer sold the item, (sometimes not to the first person to offer the asking price) by PM but failed to update the advert

Fries-With-That

MilanPan!c wrote: »

It's missing all the categories I'd use.

I'm sure they'd make more categories if they thought they'd get more users.

MilanPan!c

Fries-With-That wrote: »

I'm sure they'd make more categories if they thought they'd get more users.

"If you build it, they will come.."

I can't be going to all the adverts-style sites, asking them to modify their site for me because:

- they probably won't
- if more than one does, then what
- I can't promise I'll stick with them if everyone else uses a different site

Really, all the guys that are looking to buy, sell and trade music gear are just gonna go to an existing solution.

Sitamoia

MilanPan!c wrote: »

Really, all the guys that are looking to buy, sell and trade music gear are just gonna go to an existing solution.

Any suggestions on where to go? I'm trying to sell a lot of stuff in the one ad and adverts has put a stick in my spokes. I have a big list of things for the one ad and I'd like to have them all in the same place.

P.s. I wouldn't mind paying a yearly fee to use adverts, but the way it is now doesn't suit my needs.

MilanPan!c

Sitamoia wrote: »

Any suggestions on where to go? I'm trying to sell a lot of stuff in the one ad and adverts has put a stick in my spokes. I have a big list of things for the one ad and I'd like to have them all in the same place.

P.s. I wouldn't mind paying a yearly fee to use adverts, but the way it is now doesn't suit my needs.

That's the main issue with the changes for many people...

i know a lot of folks have headed to donedeal and I'll be going there myself for my next sale...

Amalgam

I don't think I'd have a problem with paying, if I felt I had the chance of getting 'real money' back, after paying adverts.ie my 'real money', not some 'credit' in return. There's just a whiff of beard stroking contempt there.. Too much can and does go wrong.

sue97

I have sold loads of things in the past and been pleased with Adverts.ie. I have also bought and met some lovely people.

However, I have noticed I am getting much fewer listings in topics of interest to me lately.
I also find that i am not getting much response to my ads even though I consider I am pricing reasonably. When I try to search for my ads I find it difficult to find them and much older premium ads come up first.

While I understand premium ads get preference, I would be slow to pay for a basic ad under the current format.

I do find free stuff goes almost instantly though.

TireeTerror

www.marketstall.ie

GarIT

TireeTerror wrote: »

www.marketstall.ie

I've joined, it looks great already and it only took a couple of days work.

Yamanoto

TireeTerror wrote: »

www.marketstall.ie

There's one item for sale on the entire site

Also. whoever owns the site should rethink the abbreviation 'MS'.

GarIT

OSI wrote: »

Yet again, you're not charged UNTIL YOU MARK THE AD AS SOLD!

You'll find for many people they have to pay before they even place the ad.

I was looking into placing an ad there and I had a couple of options. I could pay my phone company €1 for the privilege of being allowed pay adverts €1. So that doubles the cost.

I don't want to link and cards to my account permanently, so the only option for me like many other people is to prebuy adverts (non-refundable) funbucks and have it kept on hold for when your items eventually sell.

GarIT

Yamanoto wrote: »

There's one item for sale on the entire site

Also. whoever owns the site should rethink the abbreviation 'MS'.

Getting an ad up by a user not related to the site within it's first couple of mins online is fairly impressive.

ozmo

Yamanoto wrote: »

There's one item for sale on the entire site

All the more likely someone will see your stuff so

Signed up - must see what I have to find new homes for....

Kenny Logins

TireeTerror wrote: »

www.marketstall.ie

Looks good.

'Market Stall' says cottage industry/farmers' market/casual trader to me though...

smokin ace

if adverts are going down the money route way complicate things with a success fee why cant they charge €1 per item and have the option to pay with paypal i would have no problem then as i know it cost money to run the site but i have withdrawn all my items for sale and i will only use adverts for buying stuff and sell nothing on it

naughto

Dav wrote: »

Can I dispel a major myth that people seem to believe - there is damn all money in online banner ads. You cannot pay for a site like Adverts with that alone - if it covered even 15-20% of their ongoing monthly costs I'd be amazed cause that's a ballpark figure of what it earns Boards on a monthly basis. As someone who's ability to pay rent and eat relies on banner ads, it really annoys me to see this continued nonsense that somehow sticking some banner ads on your site means you're rolling in money - it's easy see people who simply haven't the faintest iota of a clue what they're talking about any time this crops up.

i dont no who the pr people are but they would want to be sacked(can you be sacked if you dont get paid) .there was no planning in it whats so ever.whats even worse is the blog showing how they redesigned there offices with all new crap now iam sure that adverts going down the pay for ads route was not to pay for the new material,but thats what people where thinking.
again i am amazed at how badly it was handled, its like some one just posted a thread saying you have to pay to place an ad on adverts and then they just f1ucke off home for the weekend and left the huge mess behind them.

Slingers

Marketstall.ie looks ok, I agree with others the name isn't great.

<snip> you are in danger of being marked as a shill - you've already recommended that site once in this thread.

Slingers

lol a shill no it's safe to say Niamh I'm not belong too or associated with their site in any way but I am hoping to direct people anywhere but adverts given their new policy and that particular site appeals to me and people tend not to read the whole thread so just giving it a re-mention. Oh snip.

dacogawa

Got to say I'm a bit annoyed at these Adverts.ie changes/charges, IMHO it seems to have been very badly thought out. I would have thought that a company like Distilled Media (who own adverts/daft/boards/thejournal etc) would have implemented changes like these a lot better.

I don't think people would be so angry if they had charged €5 for any ad over €100 & left everything under that amount free, also if they made paying the charge more accessible (paypal ?) & transparent, cause there is a lot of people who do offer the asking price & then disappear, having a seller who has just lost out on a sale & then trying to get 'virtual' money back is really going to turn people off quickly. I definitely wont be using the site to sell anything while these new charges are in place.

I can't really see it working out well at all, people will leave now, people will leave after being charged wrongly & their hits fall (currently no.10 in Ireland)
http://www.alexa.com/topsites/category/Top/Regional/Europe/Ireland

Hope this can be resolved before there is too much damage to the adverts brand, also hope I don't get in trouble here on boards for coming into the Distilled Media house & telling them their re-design of the sitting room is awful :eek: