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MilanPan!c

Celeron Media wrote: »

So your saying I am troll because I don't agree with miserable tightarse (you) who is having a tantrum because they refuse to open their wallet to pay small fee for a service they use to make money. I bet you regularly forget your wallet when comes to paying small bills.

My adverts is linked to my board's account. Very informed adverts member and I'm entitled post in the discussion even if I don't agree with you.

No. I'm saying you're a troll because you're:

- repeatedly lying about me
- repeatedly saying things that no rational person would say in an attempt to derail the thread

Almost everything that everyone sells on adverts is at a loss. Doing that for years is the typical adverts user experience. Pretending that anyone that does that is secretly a business and lying about it is absurd.

So absurd it's likely not true.

So yeah, you're trolling.

lolo62

emo72 wrote: »

That's a sickener. I built up a great rep on that site. Will have to look at alternatives now.

this is whats so annoying about it, ive loads of positive feedback..going to have to start from scratch somewhere else

wmpdd3

I love adverts, I got all my baby stuff there and sold it again. I met absolute angels of buyers and sellers that went out of their way.

I loved the comments, that was the major selling point for me, the only thing I ever bought on done deal was a car and it was a pain, took me ages just to find out was it still for sale.

I Would prefer an option of just paying €2 and not having this success charge, it will be too hard to police.

The only highlight is that it is a fixed charge not like the always surprise ebay charges.

Doublelime

€1-3 is not going to kill us for **** sake I thought it would be higher. People on this site are going mad about this. Adverts. IE have to make money some how. We shouldn't be so god damn stingy. If you make a sale that means you got €29 in your pocket instead of €30. Okay maybe you'll die without that bag of crisps. Actually you won't.

Pixie69

Olx.ie is a good free alternative

MilanPan!c

Doublelime wrote: »

€1-3 is not going to kill us for **** sake I thought it would be higher. People on this site are going mad about this. Adverts. IE have to make money some how. We shouldn't be so god damn stingy. If you make a sale that means you got €29 in your pocket instead of €30. Okay maybe you'll die without that bag of crisps. Actually you won't.

You've missed a lot of the issues people have with this... too much time eating crisps and not reading the threads maybe?

Fries-With-That

I think some posters need to grow up.

Its not about the money.

I am not a seller, I am a buyer and have bought plenty of items over the past number of years.

The issue is how the SUCCESS fee is to be administered and the underhand way a fee is being introduced on a free ads website.

I for one as a buyer would have no problem with adverts charging a €1 fee on an advert selling for up to €100.

Introduce it across the board all adverts are now to be charged at a fee of €1 except free/adoption/swap adverts.

I have paid postage in the past and would have no problem paying an additional €1 if that was a deal maker.

Again its now about the fee, its about how it was introduced, how its to be policed, and why take cash money and return a worthless credit.

€1 per advert would be a done deal, people would still buy and sell their pre loved items.

Nerro

Doublelime wrote: »

€1-3 is not going to kill us for **** sake I thought it would be higher. People on this site are going mad about this. Adverts. IE have to make money some how. We shouldn't be so god damn stingy. If you make a sale that means you got €29 in your pocket instead of €30. Okay maybe you'll die without that bag of crisps. Actually you won't.

Oh but it will kill the site, and I think it actually started to go a bit downhill once the pm system was introduced. I don't know about the cheap stuff but I am always on the hunt for higher end photography stuff, and call me paranoid but I noticed my email went silent after the changes and I constantly find items on different sites...

Celeron Media

The issue is how the SUCCESS fee is to be administered and the underhand way a fee is being introduced on a free ads website.

I've been paying success and listing fee's on adverts for nearly 5 years now without any issues and so have hundreds of others. And in the instance of a sale not completing a credit is issue to your account which can be used off your next bill. It's actually not so different from eBay fee methods.

I have paid postage in the past and would have no problem paying an additional €1 if that was a deal maker.

In fairness, the seller should pay their fee and not ask the buyer to pay the sellers fee.

Kealy1994

MilanPan!c wrote: »

No. I'm saying you're a troll because you're:

- repeatedly lying about me
- repeatedly saying things that no rational person would say in an attempt to derail the thread

Almost everything that everyone sells on adverts is at a loss. Doing that for years is the typical adverts user experience. Pretending that anyone that does that is secretly a business and lying about it is absurd.

So absurd it's likely not true.

So yeah, you're trolling.

MilanPan!c

Kealy1994 wrote: »

Because lying about people is cool yeah?

If my options are being a jerk or being a meg I'll be a meg.

foggy_lad

Celeron Media wrote: »

I've been paying success and listing fee's on adverts for nearly 5 years now without any issues and so have hundreds of others. And in the instance of a sale not completing a credit is issue to your account which can be used off your next bill. It's actually not so different from eBay fee methods.


In fairness, the seller should pay their fee and not ask the buyer to pay the sellers fee.

You are using the site as a commercial user so must be identified as such and adverts decided to charge commercial users fees based on a percentage of the sale.

normal private sellers are just selling stuff they no longer need or use and should not be charged for that when there are free alternative sites or adverts will lose out because the shops will not pay fees for less and less general users viewing their ads.

MilanPan!c

foggy_lad wrote: »

You are using the site as a commercial user so must be identified as such and adverts decided to charge commercial users fees based on a percentage of the sale.

normal private sellers are just selling stuff they no longer need or use and should not be charged for that when there are free alternative sites or adverts will lose out because the shops will not pay fees for less and less general users viewing their ads.

This is also an important point. Most of the reason I use adverts is gonna disappear because they've just made decisions which alienate the majority of people I deal with, and me.

Celeron Media

foggy_lad wrote: »

You are using the site as a commercial user so must be identified as such and adverts decided to charge commercial users fees based on a percentage of the sale.

normal private sellers are just selling stuff they no longer need or use and should not be charged for that when there are free alternative sites or adverts will lose out because the shops will not pay fees for less and less general users viewing their ads.

No every commercial seller has a private account on adverts for personal use also.

And shop fees are slightly higher than private success fees. Adverts need to make money to survive. Even charities need to make money to stay afloat.

Dyr

hfallada wrote: »

A little fee for adverts.ie is fine. You cant expect an amazing site for nothing. Craigslists looks like something from 1998 and gumtree is so hard to navigate.

Every time ive used adverts I've been impressed the levels of crap design and that its consistently crap across platforms

foggy_lad

I will be looking at all these alternatives even closer now as I have decided that after several years of loyal support of adverts.ie hundreds of adverts and 222 feedback(2negative) it is time to close my account.


I went and got myself banned from the talk to forum which I regret because I understand how tough a job the representatives and mods there have especially during this time of change for adverts.ie.

foggy_lad

Celeron Media wrote: »

No every commercial seller has a private account on adverts for personal use also.

And shop fees are slightly higher than private success fees. Adverts need to make money to survive. Even charities need to make money to stay afloat.

There are many commercial sellers who don't have a shop account but pretend to be private sellers as then they don't have to worry about their customers statutory rights which is something shop accounts are obliged to deal with.

lolo62

I have lots of ads up that I'm going to leave there for a while. Will only sell stuff below 30 and start making the move somewhere else.
If I had the know how I would set something up myself. There is clearly a big demand for a grass roots community based site like adverts used to be.
Maybe this is just evolution for adverts and it's time for new growth somewhere else!
Now if only I had studied computers in college...

ozmo

So basically adverts.ie is positioning itself now at the bottom of the barrel - pound store/flea market sales - by what I imagine will be a move to be mostly all the under 30 euros items. Who wants the extra hassle of sending a euro somewhere everytime they sell something
- I cannot even find full info about paying this on the site - do you have buy bulk credit packs or something to pay the 1 euro (one adverts.ie page mentions paypal as an option but who pays the pay pal charges/cc fees)? Paying by phone credit is not an option for me.

Way to go adverts.ie.

Can we get our old for-sale forum back again on boards.ie now adverts is fully commercial?

sw33t_r3v3ng3

Currently myself and about 8 or 9 others are thinking about building a new site. If anyone wants to contribute Let me know!

lolo62

ozmo wrote: »

So basically adverts.ie is positioning itself now at the bottom of the barrel - pound store/flea market sales - by what I imagine will be a move to be mostly all the under 30 euros items. Who wants the extra hassle of sending a euro somewhere everytime they sell something
- I cannot even find full info about paying this on the site - do you have buy bulk credit packs or something to pay the 1 euro (one adverts.ie page mentions paypal as an option but who pays the pay pal charges/cc fees)? Paying by phone credit is not an option for me.

Way to go adverts.ie.

Can we get our old for-sale forum back again on boards.ie now adverts is fully commercial?

i find this a bit shady too...do NOT like the idea of them sticking charges on my phone just because they happen to have the number

lolo62

sw33t_r3v3ng3 wrote: »

Currently myself and about 8 or 9 others are thinking about building a new site. If anyone wants to contribute Let me know!

wohoo! brilliant

MilanPan!c

sw33t_r3v3ng3 wrote: »

Currently myself and about 8 or 9 others are thinking about building a new site. If anyone wants to contribute Let me know!

If I can help with non-technical stuff (policies, structure, processes) let me know. I have been a professional tech writer in the past and worked in multiple software houses.

I'm also C/C++/Win Dev certified, but haven't used those skills in years. Saying that I understand most of the techie stuff.

tallaghtmick

sw33t_r3v3ng3 wrote: »

Currently myself and about 8 or 9 others are thinking about building a new site. If anyone wants to contribute Let me know!

Like I said before ill def mod for free if needed.

miamee

lolo62 wrote: »

i find this a bit shady too...do NOT like the idea of them sticking charges on my phone just because they happen to have the number

You have to agree to let them take the money - before they take the money.

ozmo

miamee wrote: »

You have to agree to let them take the money - before they take the money.

Is this obvious somewhere I missed - or is it something I would need opt out of -

Because of how my phone bill is set up - Risk of having premium phone charges made to my phone, no matter how small, is currently preventing me from ever using adverts again.

lolo62

miamee wrote: »

You have to agree to let them take the money - before they take the money.

So if I sell something 30 or over I have to agree to them taking a euro via my phone..what if I just don't agree?
Are they leaving it to us to cough up then rather then actually charging?

miamee

lolo62 wrote: »

So if I sell something 30 or over I have to agree to them taking a euro via my phone..what if I just don't agree?
Are they leaving it to us to cough up then rather then actually charging?

If you don't agree when posting the ad - then you don't post the ad I'd imagine. However you still have to mark the ad as sold in the end for the actual fee to go through from what I have read.

lolo62

OSI wrote: »

When you create the ad you choose a payment method for paying on completion on the sale of your ad. Once you mark the ad as sold, it takes payment via your agreed payment method. Whether you choose to then defraud a company over sake of €1-3 is entirely your business.

Great, that wasn't explained in the email from 'big chief adverts'
I think you're getting a bee in your bonnet there though by using words like 'defraud'
Who are you? Human manifestation of the fine print? Let's not get all talking heads over a euro.

lolo62

miamee wrote: »

If you don't agree when posting the ad - then you don't post the ad I'd imagine. However you still have to mark the ad as sold in the end for the actual fee to go through from what I have read.

Cheers!