Detailing chat

vintagevrs

Thanks chaps, I have used Iron x before but not those. I'll go with that one then so Curran.

MetzgerMeister

Oooh I forgot about Korrosol. I've used that recently and have quite a bit left. It's very good. You should also get AutoWheel (also made by Bilt Hamber) in order to keep on top of the contaminants.

SBPhoto

You could also use Korrosol found it worked really well.

Sean Quagmire

Sean Quagmire wrote: »

I ordered this in the end http://www.duke-handel.de/Polisher-Dual-Action-KB-710W-with-set-2

€137 delivered. seems like a good unit with decent power.

Is that a rotary? Can any of ye guys confirm whether or not it'd be worth buying one of them and putting my DAS Pro in the bin where it belongs? (:p)

That Site wrote:

DUAL ACTION, ECCENTRIC POLISHER - The machine does eccentric/orbital rotary motion.

Sounds like its an orbital rotary with a dual action eccentric motion... haha.

Foxhole Norman

Deleted User wrote: »

Is that a rotary? Can any of ye guys confirm whether or not it'd be worth buying one of them and putting my DAS Pro in the bin where it belongs? (:p)

What exactly is wrong with the Pro that a Rotary would solve? Admittedly, I only got mine but it's been fantastic in correcting my paint, so much so that my brother, who got a full respray is jealous of it.

Danger781

It has now been a few days since I washed the car and I'm a little bit disappointed that she isn't quite as shiny as I was hoping. Not sure if that's down to the paint or the products / methods I used..

Rinse with power hose (Karcher K4)
Foam (Stock lance with demon foam, not great)
Hand Wash w/ Microfiber mit
Rinse
Dry
Clay (Meguiars)
Rinse
Dry
Hand Polish (Meguiars)
Hand Wax (Meguiars)

What can I do better? Also, what do you lads normally do as a quick 'touch up' to keep the shine going? After a week it's already getting dusty again..

MetzgerMeister

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

What exactly is wrong with the Pro that a Rotary would solve? Admittedly, I only got mine but it's been fantastic in correcting my paint, so much so that my brother, who got a full respray is jealous of it.

The only advantage of a rotary above a DAS6 Pro is that it would do the job faster. That is also the downside too though if you're not used to using these machines.

You made the right choice in buying the Pro so relax!

Sammy1234

What car wash could be used for Matt paint jobs? Getting me car sprayed next week

MetzgerMeister

Danger781 wrote: »

It has now been a few days since I washed the car and I'm a little bit disappointed that she isn't quite as shiny as I was hoping. Not sure if that's down to the paint or the products / methods I used..

Rinse with power hose (Karcher K4)
Foam (Stock lance with demon foam, not great)
Hand Wash w/ Microfiber mit
Rinse
Dry
Clay (Meguiars)
Rinse
Dry
Hand Polish (Meguiars)
Hand Wax (Meguiars)

What can I do better? Also, what do you lads normally do as a quick 'touch up' to keep the shine going? After a week it's already getting dusty again..

You can't do anything to stop a car getting dusty. There's dust in the air everywhere you go. Nothing you change in your wash/seal technique can change that.

If it's only light dust, a quick detailer of some sort would be fine to mist on and wipe. If there's dirt or anything like that, wash the car instead and follow that with a quick detailer or something like Gtechniq C2V3 or OAC Perfection.

Curran

Danger781 wrote: »

What can I do better? Also, what do you lads normally do as a quick 'touch up' to keep the shine going? After a week it's already getting dusty again..

Firstly, the stock lance isn't a snowfoam lance; it won't produce a tick foam like a proper lance would.

Can't really fault your process; and you really should have seen some improvement in the appearance of the car. Even if you were to use the worst wax or sealant on the car; it should last a week. And even at that, the process of decontaminating the paintwork should have improved it somewhat too; and the wouldn't get contaminated so quickly.

What car is it?

There isn't whole lot you can do about it getting dusty, obviously, but after the job you've done, it should only take a quick wash and dry to restore it. In terms of quick detailer sprays to boost shine; there are several, Chemical Guys Speed Wipe or Blitz, Dodo Juice Red Mist, Poorboys Spray & Gloss or QD+, would be a few worth looking at. Some will be more suited as a light wipe down of dust after a short drive for example; others would offer 1-2 weeks protection.

Curran

Sammy1234 wrote: »

What car wash could be used for Matt paint jobs? Getting me car sprayed next week

Do you mean hand wash, brush wash, jet wash?
Hand wash only. Matt paint is easy to mark and can't be corrected like regular paintwork by machine correction.

There are specific matt shampoos and quick detailers. Chemical Guys make a range call Meticulous Matte

Danger781

Yeah the foam attachment that came with the Karcher K4 is useless - Detailing shed didn't have the lance I wanted though! :P

There was an improvement in the car - Definitely! I'm happy enough and I've brought back some of the shine but was just hoping for better results I guess. Quick detailer is probably what I'm looking for - Something to give the car a quick wipe with over the weekend rather than filling buckets or getting the power hose. I'll look into picking some up.

Birds also like my car a lot. Two different stains on my car now.

The car is '05 Mini One in Electric Blue which unfortunately has a number of scratches and other cosmetic issues

h3000

Can anyone recommend a decent car wash in Cork? I'm down for a few days and just spotted that some lovely birds are after crapping on the bonnet.

Sean Quagmire

Deleted User wrote: »

Is that a rotary? Can any of ye guys confirm whether or not it'd be worth buying one of them and putting my DAS Pro in the bin where it belongs? (:p)

Sounds like its an orbital rotary with a dual action eccentric motion... haha.

not sure if your laughing at this unit or not. the German translation might be a bit off but this is a true DA.

besides, even the DA6 and megs DA's makes reference to the word orbital

the DAS-6 PRO Dual Action Polisher which quite simply is the best random orbital car polisher available

Meguiar's Dual Action Polisher produces a low risk, dual-action, rotation and orbit pattern

Curran

Danger781 wrote: »

There was an improvement in the car - Definitely! I'm happy enough and I've brought back some of the shine but was just hoping for better results I guess.

The car is '05 Mini One in Electric Blue which unfortunately has a number of scratches and other cosmetic issues

Better results in what sense?

Mini paintwork will be extremely hard, so there wont be much done by the hand polish, other than removing oxidation and restoring shine. Not sure how good the Megs polish is at hiding defects, but it should have done some.

If you are trying to achieve ultimate shine and gloss, then perhaps a glaze would be worth considering. Also, there are waxes available that are have additives in them to help enhance certain colours; Dodo Juice Blue Velvet for example might help give and extra bit of depth to the paintwork.

Foxhole Norman

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

The only advantage of a rotary above a DAS6 Pro is that it would do the job faster. That is also the downside too though if you're not used to using these machines.

You made the right choice in buying the Pro so relax!

Oh I know, it just seems weird to want to bin it!

h3000 wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a decent car wash in Cork? I'm down for a few days and just spotted that some lovely birds are after crapping on the bonnet.

D&D Detailing on the Monaghan Road would sort you out if you're in the city!

Curran

The DAS Pro is a capable machine - the likes of microfiber pads help beef it up too.

Sammy1234

Curran wrote: »

Do you mean hand wash, brush wash, jet wash?
Hand wash only. Matt paint is easy to mark and can't be corrected like regular paintwork by machine correction.

There are specific matt shampoos and quick detailers. Chemical Guys make a range call Meticulous Matte

Thanks man appreciate it,it'll be hand washed just looking for which shampoo to use

h3000

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

D&D Detailing on the Monaghan Road would sort you out if you're in the city!

Popped into D&D but the lads were flat out. Nice guys though.

I just got a jet was in the Amber station on the N71 and head out the N40 for a quick air dry. It's just waxed so it dryed of fairly well. Will give it a good was when I get home.

Foxhole Norman

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

What exactly is wrong with the Pro that a Rotary would solve? Admittedly, I only got mine but it's been fantastic in correcting my paint, so much so that my brother, who got a full respray is jealous of it.

Ah I was just partly joking, really. DAS6Pro is a fairly decent bit of kit, and it does do a good job. You really need, as Curran said above, some Microfibre pads for it though.

My issue with it, is that mine kind of acts like a hoover of sorts, in that it sucks the will to live out of me.

I enjoy keeping on top of car cleaning, but after doing a half a dozen full machine polishes, I've started to dread the thoughts of taking the DAS out, because I know it'll be in my hands for a full day if I do. And even then, I'll still nit pick.


I regret just not buying a rotary from day one. I think the potential for damage from them is probably exaggerated quite a bit. Considering I was able to fix up small sanding marks with the DAS6Pro (with only a coarse sandpaper causing any real issues), I think you'd have to leave a rotary on the bonnet, held down with a brick, and go and get 2-3 cups of tea and watch a film before you'd return to any potential damage :P


... But then, I've never used a rotary, so...

Curran

Rotary polishers have the potential to do some very serious damage if not given the proper respect.

With a DA, your statement would be true....leave a rotary in a single spot with a heavy pad and compound for 30 seconds and you might be coming back to a nice shiny finish; of bare metal! :P
OK, that's an exaggeration, but the clearcoat may be struck through, or removed enough to be seriously comprised, in that it might be so thin, it will fail over time.
Another thing; don't think far away hill are green. Doing a car with a rotary, and you'll still have the machine in your hands for most of the day, especially if you want to avoid holograms; which are less of an issue with DAs.

vectra

@ KKV
If you are looking to upgrade to a rotary I can strongly recommend the EP801.

Sean Quagmire

Well, my order arrived!

Hal1

Did you get all those pads included with the polisher?

Sean Quagmire

Yea they all came with it. Savage deal really. Orange and black are medium/hard and the whites are finishing/waxing. The machine itself is absolutely rock solid feels so well made - and quiet.

crasy dash

How much did it set you back?

Sean Quagmire

The deal was like €112. Delivered and all was €137. Couldn't see anything else online for the power and kit for that money.

crasy dash

Serious value in fairness best luck with it let us know how you get on with it!!!

Newtown90

Sean Quagmire wrote: »

The deal was like €112. Delivered and all was €137. Couldn't see anything else online for the power and kit for that money.

I have one of these for about 18 months now!

I just bought different pads a few weeks ago for it!

It works well anyhow for the money!

Curran

Pads probably won't be the highest quality but sure when you get that many, you won't be stuck!