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Toulon vs Munster buildup/ticket discussion

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    #242
    irishguy1983
    Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    No Michalak in the 23 again. Bizarre!

    He'd probably start for us!


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    #243
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭Ugo Monye spacecraft experience


    irishguy1983 wrote: »
    How many Munster players would get into Toulon team? 1?

    Point being?


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    #244
    Mahatma Geansai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭Mahatma Geansai


    Only 3 French players in the Toulon starting team compared to only 3 NIEs in the Munster squad. Crazy stuff.


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    #245
    Micky Dolenz
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    irishguy1983 wrote: »
    How many Munster players would get into Toulon team? 1?


    The real question is, how many Munster players would want to.


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    #246
    irishguy1983
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    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    Point being?

    Highlights the difference in quality and very depressing!


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    #247
    Grimebox
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    irishguy1983 wrote: »
    How many Munster players would get into Toulon team? 1?

    At least Murray and POC from the starting 15


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    #248
    Grimebox
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    Only -8 on the bookies. Stranger swings have happened. I'm surprisingly optimistic about this one after that quarter final


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    #249
    Teferi
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    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    As with everything captain related, we can only look at a tiny bit of the picture.

    After the display he put in as captain against Leinster I wouldn't be too fast to have him captain again but as you said we only know a tiny bit of the picture.


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    #250
    pickarooney
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    9 and 5 are the only positions where Munster are stronger, on paper at least.

    The weather is minging here at the minute. Freezing cold and lashing rain with a bit of thunder thrown in. Should be sunny and 18 degrees by Sunday though.


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    #251
    Teferi
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    Lads you will win, don't worry about it.


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    #252
    antogz1979
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    Grimebox wrote: »
    At least Murray and POC from the starting 15

    I'd have Earls over Mitchell and there is not much between any of the frontrow. Toulon everywhere else and a wide margin in some cases.
    I think Munster could put them under pressure in the front row actually.


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    #253
    [Jackass]
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    irishguy1983 wrote: »
    How many Munster players would get into Toulon team? 1?

    Given they're missing Ali Williams and Bakkies Botha are injured, O'Connell would and Botha would have a shot against Hayman. Murray might have a shot at their bench. But all being fit, none. O'Connell and Botha would make the 23 though, possibly Murray on bench too.


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    #254
    USIrishYa
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    varley shouldnt even start ahead of casey let alone captain.


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    #255
    Mahatma Geansai
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    [Jackass] wrote: »
    Given they're missing Ali Williams and Bakkies Botha are injured, O'Connell would and Botha would have a shot against Hayman. Murray might have a shot at their bench. But all being fit, none. O'Connell and Botha would make the 23 though, possibly Murray on bench too.

    Murray would have a great shot of starting for any team (International or Club) in Europe.


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    #256
    razorblunt
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    USIrishYa wrote: »
    varley shouldnt even start ahead of casey let alone captain.

    Maybe it's Penney's only way of trying to stop him giving away umpteen stupid penalties.


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    #257
    Mahatma Geansai
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    razorblunt wrote: »
    Maybe it's Penney's only way of trying to stop him giving away umpteen stupid penalties.

    He has a good demeanor with refs and it allows POC to maintain a level of intensity without having to calm himself down when talking to the ref.


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    #258
    Rickwellwood
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    G'wan Munster !!!!!!!!!!!!


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    #259
    phog
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    Think this might have been mentioned earlier int he thread.
    MRSC ‏@MRSC16 ·16 mins

    Please take note of the Tram stop you should use at the stadium on Sunday. @Munsterrugby #InvadeMarseille #SUAF pic.twitter.com/HLkTZxcxSO


    BmEeNvxCMAE7DsF.png


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    #260
    RoundBox11
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    antogz1979 wrote: »
    I'd have Earls over Mitchell and there is not much between any of the frontrow. Toulon everywhere else and a wide margin in some cases.
    I think Munster could put them under pressure in the front row actually.

    Even with Damian Varley? Seriously?

    Id really love to see Munster win this but with the difference in quality, I dont think the Munster intensity will be enough to make up the difference.

    Munster are at a real disadvantage at in the back row, centres and at full back. Let's hope wilkinson has a bad day


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    #261
    who_me
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    (sorry if this is spam) but I still have 3 tickets for the game but can't make it. If anyone is leaving from Cork and wants to use them, please PM.. I always hate seeing tickets go to waste.


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    #262
    budhabob
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    RoundBox11 wrote: »
    Even with Damian Varley? Seriously?

    Id really love to see Munster win this but with the difference in quality, I dont think the Munster intensity will be enough to make up the difference.

    Munster are at a real disadvantage at in the back row, centres and at full back. Let's hope wilkinson has a bad day

    Despite the comments on his discipline, Varley is a very good scrummager, a good ball carrier, and excellent on the deck. his major weaknesses are consistency of his darts and ill-discipline.

    In terms of being at a disadvantage in the backrow, 2 of our backrows are consistently underrated, and generally do very well against "better" backrows. Both Dougal and Coughlan also have serious work rates which will be key. Stander is coming into his own and seems to relish the big stage.

    Theres no doubt we are up against it, i'm just seriously hyped now, and very positive.


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    #263
    blackdog1
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    Leinster took toulons scrum apart but their lineout was a disaster. Munster will do the same although I suspect their lineout will do very well with poc.

    Wilkinson playing is a big plus as he doesn't use the backs effective so with him on toulon will simply aim to dominate the forwards and kick the penalties. I personally can't see them dominating in this way so munster have a good chance.


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    #264
    RoundBox11
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    budhabob wrote: »
    Despite the comments on his discipline, Varley is a very good scrummager, a good ball carrier, and excellent on the deck. his major weaknesses are consistency of his darts and ill-discipline.

    In terms of being at a disadvantage in the backrow, 2 of our backrows are consistently underrated, and generally do very well against "better" backrows. Both Dougal and Coughlan also have serious work rates which will be key. Stander is coming into his own and seems to relish the big stage.

    Theres no doubt we are up against it, i'm just seriously hyped now, and very positive.

    Dougall may play against well against better rabo back rows but Lobbe is in a different galaxy as a player. Stander has played well recently but is fairly untested against a backrow like Toulons. Added to the fact that Smith and Lobbe in particular have proven themselves against hardened international backrows. There's a pretty massive gulf


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    #265
    phog
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    Ian Buckley ‏@MRSCLilman ·32 mins

    Munster Mascot Darragh Humphreys receives his kit for Sunday. @MRSC16 pic.twitter.com/aca5sn6ZTe

    BmEw3fhIIAAeeli.jpg


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    #266
    former legend
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    budhabob wrote: »
    In terms of being at a disadvantage in the backrow, 2 of our backrows are consistently underrated, and generally do very well against "better" backrows. Both Dougal and Coughlan also have serious work rates which will be key. Stander is coming into his own and seems to relish the big stage.

    I envy your optimism but no-one is underrating Dougall and Coughlan, they are simply not in the same league as Lobbe and Armitage who are not only better rugby players but also have massive work rates. Dougall in particular is facing a match that is a quantum leap above anything he has played in to date.


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    #267
    Swiwi.
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    Trust no-one objects if I crash the thread and wish Munster "Best of success" for the weekend. T'would be an excellent effort if ye can come away with the victory. Good luck, and safe travels thomond2006 among others! Don't forget to slip, slop, slap in that scorching mediterranean sun - lobster red supporters would stand out a mile, even if it does match the jersey...


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    #268
    budhabob
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    former legend wrote: »
    I envy your optimism but no-one is underrating Dougall and Coughlan, they are simply not in the same league as Lobbe and Armitage who are not only better rugby players but also have massive work rates. Dougall in particular is facing a match that is a quantum leap above anything he has played in to date.

    I'm in no way doubting the challenge is massive, but one has to believe!


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    #269
    CatFromHue
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    I have to say I really think Leinster let Toulon off the hook in the QF's. For all their dominance capitalizing on our mistakes won them the game and were helped by some of our usually best players not playing very well. This is by no means a lost cause game for Munster.

    It'll be interesting to see how Downey and Lualala deal with Basteraud.


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    #270
    SomeFool
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    who_me wrote: »
    (sorry if this is spam) but I still have 3 tickets for the game but can't make it. If anyone is leaving from Cork and wants to use them, please PM.. I always hate seeing tickets go to waste.

    I'm travelling from cork and would easily meet with anyone that needs these if you like


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    #271
    former legend
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    budhabob wrote: »
    I'm in no way doubting the challenge is massive, but one has to believe!

    Don't get me wrong, I think Munster are in with a chance and I think the backrow is absolutely key; unfortunately I think not only do the Munster trio have to play as well as they possibly can, they also need the Toulon unit to have an off-day.

    Does anyone have any more parades they want rained on, while I'm here like?


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