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Are we in 1930's Mississippi?

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    #32
    Pixie69
    Site Banned Posts: 86 ✭✭Pixie69


    Travellers are a great bunch of lads


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    #33
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    efb wrote: »
    So as usual AH thinks it's perfectly fine to tar all travellers with the one brush....

    You can cry that "tar with the one brush" stuff all you like. Doesnt change what everyone already knows. If Travellers move in nearby trouble wont be far behind them. And no community is going to want to deal with it.


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    #34
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Muise... wrote: »
    What history books have you? The Chronicles of Browbeating Bull****?

    I highly recommend you do some research before further comments
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    #35
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    You can cry that "tar with the one brush" stuff all you like. Doesnt change what everyone already knows. If Travellers move in nearby trouble wont be far behind them. And no community is going to want to deal with it.

    I don't have an issue with it


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    #36
    humbert
    Registered Users Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    efb wrote: »
    So as usual AH thinks it's perfectly fine to tar all travellers with the one brush....
    You want is to talk about the travelling community at an individual level? Or are you just determined to stick your head in the sand and refused to recognise common distinguishing characteristics between different social groups?


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    #37
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    efb wrote: »
    I don't have an issue with it

    Do you live beside any or have you done in the past? What were your experiences?


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    #38
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    efb wrote: »
    I don't have an issue with it

    So because you dont mind everyone else should keep their mouths shut when it comes to something that may have a negative impact on their community ?


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    #39
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    humbert wrote: »
    You want is to talk about the travelling community at an individual level? Or are you just determined to stick your head in the sand and refused to recognise common distinguishing characteristics between different social groups?

    I am not sticking my head in the sand I live beside travellers. It's lazy scaremongering and picking an easy target to blame to everything


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    #40
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Gatling wrote: »
    I highly recommend you do some research before further comments

    You post a histrionic comment, yet I have to do some research? :pac:


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    #41
    smoking_kills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 488 ✭✭smoking_kills


    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    So because you dont mind everyone else should keep their mouths shut when it comes to something that may have a negative impact on their community ?

    Whatever about negative impact on their community, how about negative impact on their house prices????


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    #42
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    So because you dont mind everyone else should keep their mouths shut when it comes to something that may have a negative impact on their community ?

    It's awful racism and NIMBYism


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    #43
    Essien
    Registered Users Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Essien


    All they want is equality.

    ...So long as they get way more equality than the rest of us.

    ...And that they don't have to pay any tax to get it.


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    #44
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    smoking_kills wrote: »
    Whatever about negative impact on their community, how about negative impact on their house prices????

    The real issue I bet...


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    #45
    Pixie69
    Site Banned Posts: 86 ✭✭Pixie69


    By nature travellers are travellers so shouldn't they eh travel?


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    #46
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Essien wrote: »
    All they want is equality.

    ...So long as they get way more equality than the rest of us.

    ...And that they don't have to pay any tax to get it.


    All of them???


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    #47
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    efb wrote: »
    So as usual AH thinks it's perfectly fine to tar all travellers with the one brush....

    A thin layer of tar.


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    #48
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Complains about Traveller lifestyle.

    Complains about them being settled.

    Brilliant.


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    #49
    humbert
    Registered Users Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    efb wrote: »
    I am not sticking my head in the sand I live beside travellers. It's lazy scaremongering and picking an easy target to blame to everything
    No, it's not. There may by hyperbole and prejudice but there is also some substance (which you are entitled to debate) to the common view of travellers and obstinately refusing to acknowledge the negatives is just as unconstructive as focusing exclusively on them IMO.


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    #50
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    efb wrote: »
    The real issue I bet...

    So what if it is? People work hard to pay mortgages, no one would want anything in their community that would devalue their property.


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    #51
    131spanner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭131spanner


    Good on Cllr. Higgins. It must have been a huge relief for those in the area to get that letter.


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    #52
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Reminds me if this tweet:
    @RonanMullen: Massive crowd gathered in Ballina tonight against dangers of pylons and wind turbines in Moy Valley - people power in action

    Such NIMBYism


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    #53
    Rabies
    Registered Users Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    efb wrote: »
    They are protected under the equality act

    nothing equal about that


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    #54
    Manach
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Well, nice to know the teaching of history in Irish schools has reached a new nadir.


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    #55
    [Deleted User]
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    The state shouldn't be funding the assimilation of the Travelling Community and having policies which are basically an attack on their culture.


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    #56
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    eviltwin wrote: »
    So what if it is? People work hard to pay mortgages, no one would want anything in their community that would devalue their property.

    Better not let any more houses for anyone be built. And no restrictions on mortgages two bigger effects on house prices


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    #57
    efb
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    What about people that inherited houses, not necessarily through hard work...


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    #58
    Essien
    Registered Users Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Essien


    efb wrote: »
    All of them???


    The vast majority.

    I doubt they pay much tax on the revenue they generate from all their burglaries they've committed around here recently, or all the unprovoked assaults. I could be wrong though.


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    #59
    smoking_kills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 488 ✭✭smoking_kills


    efb wrote: »
    The real issue I bet...

    The largest purchase the majority of people will ever make, 20 or 30 years paying a mortgage (and working bloody hard to do so) and in some cases their pension as well.....

    Yeah no issue there....


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    #60
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    efb wrote: »
    Better not let any more houses for anyone be built. And no restrictions on mortgages two bigger effects on house prices

    Don't be ridiculous. If a traveller works hard, earns a wage and buys a house beside me then more power to them. One such traveller family lives a few doors down, they are really lovely people and work hard, never had an issue from them.

    It's provision of purpose built accommodation that no other sector of society has access too - which is in itself a form of discrimination - that I object to cause its basically making a ghetto.

    I am all for integration but it doesn't work when you create an enclave of homes, slightly away from the rest of the community where there is no interaction and tensions flare.


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    #61
    jimboblep
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭jimboblep


    efb wrote: »
    What about people that inherited houses, not necessarily through hard work...

    wow definition of whataboutery right there


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