Are we in 1930's Mississippi?

efb

This is awful NIMBYism from the Cllr.
Point 3 smacks of racism

zl1whqvjs75cdy

This thread won't last long. Most people don't want travellers living beside them. They have a reputation for anti social behaviour.

shruikan2553

Oh this is going to get good.

People would rather not take the risk.

efb

sugarman wrote: »

The Travelling community are not a race!

They are protected under the equality act

For Forks Sake

efb wrote: »

This is awful NIMBYism from the Cllr.
Point 3 smacks of racism

Stealing content and comments from Broadsheet. Lazy.

BNMC

Fair play to Cllr Higgins. Her constituents raised concerns and she sorted them.

eviltwin

Is building houses that are only intended to be used for travellers not discrimination against the rest of society?

efb

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Stealing content and comments from Broadsheet. Lazy.

I didn't see the article I saw the letter on twitter

suicide_circus

efb wrote: »

They are protected under the equality act

Then let them take a case against the council for discrimination.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Not in South Dublin anyway. Put that on the Northside.

efb

BNMC wrote: »

Fair play to Cllr Higgins. Her constituents raised concerns and she sorted them.

I wonder will wind farms and mobile masts and pylons be next?

Gatling

A councillor working with and on behalf of a community isn't that what there suppost to do ??
An issues which could effect a large part of the community

Pixie69

Sure it wouldn't be long before they'd be thieving from their neighbours

efb

If it was rehousing Jewish community what would the reaction be?

eviltwin

efb wrote: »

If it was rehousing Jewish community what would the reaction be?

Like it or not travellers have a bad reputation and not without reason, people are going to be wary with any suggestion of them moving nearby.

suicide_circus

efb wrote: »

If it was rehousing Jewish community what would the reaction be?

Jews generally work, pay tax and house themselves within the norms of society.

Muise...

efb wrote: »

If it was rehousing Jewish community what would the reaction be?

I'd imagine the reaction would be based on that completely different situation.

Do the Jewish community need to be rehoused?

smoking_kills

Are we in 1930's Mississippi?

No,
travelers are not a race,
travelers don't have crosses burning in their yards every night
there is no KKK (or organisation like them) terrorizing them,
travelers don't get lynched and hung from trees.
travelers don't have their own toilets, schools or water fountains
ect ect ect...

coolemon

efb wrote: »

They are protected under the equality act

And not enough so.

humbert

efb wrote: »

If it was rehousing Jewish community what would the reaction be?

Jewish people don't need to have houses provided for them.

coolemon

sugarman wrote: »

The Travelling community are not a race!

Learn the meaning of racism.

Travellers are an ethnicity and discriminating against an ethnicity is racism.

efb

So as usual AH thinks it's perfectly fine to tar all travellers with the one brush....

Gatling

efb wrote: »

If it was rehousing Jewish community what would the reaction be?

Read up on your history Jews were badly threaded here post ww2 while Nazi's were treated like celebrities

coolemon

humbert wrote: »

Jewish people don't need to have houses provided for them.

They were talking hypothetically. Obvious really.

efb

eviltwin wrote: »

Like it or not travellers have a bad reputation and not without reason, people are going to be wary with any suggestion of them moving nearby.

I don't like generalisations

BNMC

efb wrote: »

So as usual AH thinks it's perfectly fine to tar all travellers with the one brush....

efb wrote: »

I don't like generalisations

Yeah.

suicide_circus

efb wrote: »

So as usual AH thinks it's perfectly fine to tar all travellers with the one brush....

Yeah its a problem. Maybe the settled community and traveller community could both work a little harder to live in harmony.

Muise...

Gatling wrote: »

Read up on your history Jews were badly threaded here post ww2 while Nazi's were treated like celebrities

What history books have you? The Chronicles of Browbeating Bull****?

smoking_kills

efb wrote: »

I don't like generalisations

No Just over exaggerating.

shruikan2553

efb wrote: »

So as usual AH thinks it's perfectly fine to tar all travellers with the one brush....

Some travelers are fine, you just cant guarantee the entire family is and when the person shows up the area can go to **** as their "culture" involves turning a blind eye to it.

eviltwin

If travellers are just like the rest of us why do they need special housing then? What happens if a settled person needs a home, they go on a list and wait their turn. No one suggests purpose built accommodation. Why do travellers need it?

Pixie69

Travellers are a great bunch of lads

Artful_Badger

efb wrote: »

So as usual AH thinks it's perfectly fine to tar all travellers with the one brush....

You can cry that "tar with the one brush" stuff all you like. Doesnt change what everyone already knows. If Travellers move in nearby trouble wont be far behind them. And no community is going to want to deal with it.

Gatling

Muise... wrote: »

What history books have you? The Chronicles of Browbeating Bull****?

I highly recommend you do some research before further comments

efb

Artful_Badger wrote: »

You can cry that "tar with the one brush" stuff all you like. Doesnt change what everyone already knows. If Travellers move in nearby trouble wont be far behind them. And no community is going to want to deal with it.

I don't have an issue with it

humbert

efb wrote: »

So as usual AH thinks it's perfectly fine to tar all travellers with the one brush....

You want is to talk about the travelling community at an individual level? Or are you just determined to stick your head in the sand and refused to recognise common distinguishing characteristics between different social groups?

eviltwin

efb wrote: »

I don't have an issue with it

Do you live beside any or have you done in the past? What were your experiences?

Artful_Badger

efb wrote: »

I don't have an issue with it

So because you dont mind everyone else should keep their mouths shut when it comes to something that may have a negative impact on their community ?

efb

humbert wrote: »

You want is to talk about the travelling community at an individual level? Or are you just determined to stick your head in the sand and refused to recognise common distinguishing characteristics between different social groups?

I am not sticking my head in the sand I live beside travellers. It's lazy scaremongering and picking an easy target to blame to everything

Muise...

Gatling wrote: »

I highly recommend you do some research before further comments

You post a histrionic comment, yet I have to do some research? :pac:

smoking_kills

Artful_Badger wrote: »

So because you dont mind everyone else should keep their mouths shut when it comes to something that may have a negative impact on their community ?

Whatever about negative impact on their community, how about negative impact on their house prices????

efb

Artful_Badger wrote: »

So because you dont mind everyone else should keep their mouths shut when it comes to something that may have a negative impact on their community ?

It's awful racism and NIMBYism

Essien

All they want is equality.

...So long as they get way more equality than the rest of us.

...And that they don't have to pay any tax to get it.

efb

smoking_kills wrote: »

Whatever about negative impact on their community, how about negative impact on their house prices????

The real issue I bet...

Pixie69

By nature travellers are travellers so shouldn't they eh travel?

efb

Essien wrote: »

All they want is equality.

...So long as they get way more equality than the rest of us.

...And that they don't have to pay any tax to get it.

All of them???

Stavros Murphy

efb wrote: »

So as usual AH thinks it's perfectly fine to tar all travellers with the one brush....

A thin layer of tar.

Karl Stein

Complains about Traveller lifestyle.

Complains about them being settled.

Brilliant.

humbert

efb wrote: »

I am not sticking my head in the sand I live beside travellers. It's lazy scaremongering and picking an easy target to blame to everything

No, it's not. There may by hyperbole and prejudice but there is also some substance (which you are entitled to debate) to the common view of travellers and obstinately refusing to acknowledge the negatives is just as unconstructive as focusing exclusively on them IMO.

eviltwin

efb wrote: »

The real issue I bet...

So what if it is? People work hard to pay mortgages, no one would want anything in their community that would devalue their property.

131spanner

Good on Cllr. Higgins. It must have been a huge relief for those in the area to get that letter.