Inconsistencies and Nit Picking *SPOILERS FOR AMC PACE*

Paddy Cow

As a whole, I love The Walking Dead. I know that a show about a zombie apocalypse in itself is unbelievable as something "real". I am willing to set that aside and immerse myself in a fictional world where the dead can arise and infect you and you will be pushed to your limits to survive. It's the struggle and seeing how far people are willing to go to survive that fascinates me.

However, even in a fictional world there must be consistency. Some of the inconsistencies annoy me so I thought it would be good to have a place where we can nitpick/bitch and moan about little things that bother us, without fear of derailing a thread. This is not an attack on the show but just somewhere to vent if you've seen something that doesn't sit right with you. Even if it's only petty, let it out

I'll start.

When Rick was hiding under the bed and your man took it over, why didn't he notice that it was already warm? A bed that hasn't been slept in is cold. Rick had been hanging out there all morning, so a warm bed should have been an indicator that someone had been there not long ago.

When Beth and Daryl got to the undertakers house, they noticed that everything was super clean but it didn't raise alarm bells with them. Any other building they have entered has either contained walkers or signs of a walker struggle. Everything in the house was pristine and well maintained and they didn't consider that people were using it regularly. They thought that the people might come back but they never considered that it might be a trap.

Judith. I'm glad that she is still alive but she is a baby that needs formula milk. How are they still feeding her? When they left the prison, the kids had taken her out of the car seat and had no baby food. Also practical things like nappies. Where are they coming from?

Maggie is hell bent on finding Glenn, which is understandable but she seems to have forgotton Beth. Shouldn't she have included Beth in her blood stained messages?

When the bus left the prison, there were kids on it. When the bus was found, there were only adults.

That's all for now, I'm sure I'll remember more later.

If anyone has explanations for the above please post them but in a constructive manner. I would like this thread to be a place where you can post grievances, even if they seem petty to others, without being told that "well obviously this and that happened and you just don't understand the show" type of arguments

So fellow zombie watchers, is there anything that you need to get off your chest?

Lovely Bloke

Why did Carol and Tyreese leave the two girls alone - AGAIN - only to come back to find *something bad* had happened. In previous scenes it was 1 Adult with 1 Child - leaving the two girls alone like that was stupid beyond belief, even if one of them wasn't a complete psycho.

I would like this thread to be a place where you can post grievances, even if they seem petty to others, without being told that "well obviously this and that happened and you just don't understand the show" type of arguments

yeah, good luck with that bro.

Too Many Cats

Why do the characters not take new/clean clothes in the houses they search? I know they're in a rush sometimes but other times they're in the houses for a couple of days?

And how has Darryl never run out of arrows?

Paddy Cow

Too Many Cats wrote: »

Why do the characters not take new/clean clothes in the houses they search? I know they're in a rush sometimes but other times they're in the houses for a couple of days?

And how has Darryl never run out of arrows?

I have wondered that too. I know when it's possible he goes back and collects arrows from dead bodies but a lot of the time they have to scram and he loses them but he always seems to have a steady supply. Arrows are not like bullets. You cannot replace them easily.

SouthTippBass

Paddy Cow wrote: »

I have wondered that too. I know when it's possible he goes back and collects arrows from dead bodies but a lot of the time they have to scram and he loses them but he always seems to have a steady supply. Arrows are not like bullets. You cannot replace them easily.

Actually, their called bolts.

Lovely Bloke

SouthTippBass wrote: »

Actually, their called bolts.

Actually, it's spelled "they're".

SouthTippBass

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Actually, it's spelled "they're".

Thanks for that mien Fuhrer, I wouldn't expect anything less from the inconsistencies and nit picking thread.

Cork boy 55

SouthTippBass wrote: »

Actually, their called bolts.

LOL

"What the fuuck ever, Christ!"

TWD Comic panel issue #123, spoiler
http://www.comicbooked.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/walking-dead-negan-dwight-and-bolts-not-arrows.png

SouthTippBass

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

LOL

"What the fuuck ever, Christ!"

TWD Comic panel issue #123, spoiler
http://www.comicbooked.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/walking-dead-negan-dwight-and-bolts-not-arrows.png

Ah! I knew somebody would get it! I love Nagans roll eyes there as well :pac:

Grimebox

Super zombie strength whenever it suits. Sometimes the zombies can rip through any thing easily, other times they fall apart like butter. You could claim that some zombies are more decayed than others which is fair enough. But the zombie who killed Dale tore his body open with ease, the same zombie who grappled with Carl's leg earlier on and was stuck in the mud.

I have a million and one complaints about the characters but I'll leave it.

Cork boy 55

Paddy Cow wrote: »

When Rick was hiding under the bed and your man took it over, why didn't he notice that it was already warm? A bed that hasn't been slept in is cold. Rick had been hanging out there all morning, so a warm bed should have been an indicator that someone had been there not long ago.

When Beth and Daryl got to the undertakers house, they noticed that everything was super clean but it didn't raise alarm bells with them. Any other building they have entered has either contained walkers or signs of a walker struggle. Everything in the house was pristine and well maintained and they didn't consider that people were using it regularly. They thought that the people might come back but they never considered that it might be a trap.

Judith. I'm glad that she is still alive but she is a baby that needs formula milk. How are they still feeding her? When they left the prison, the kids had taken her out of the car seat and had no baby food. Also practical things like nappies. Where are they coming from?

Maggie is hell bent on finding Glenn, which is understandable but she seems to have forgotton Beth. Shouldn't she have included Beth in her blood stained messages?

When the bus left the prison, there were kids on it. When the bus was found, there were only adults.

Rick lay on the opposite side of bed

I don't see why they would think its a obvious trap.
Why would you set up a trap in a random building in middle of nowhere there are just not that many people milling around?
Plus if it was a trap, why would you keep half painted bodies there to freak people out? As a trap it needed to look abandoned and not home to someone who seems to like painting dead bodies.
looked more like an opportunist kidnapping
We really don't know what happened in that scene more information will be revealed later. It was an odd scene in an odd place.


The babies supplies bag is carried by Kids. We saw them feeding and changing nappies in second episode (4x10 )from the bag

I was thinking earlier, imagine if Beth came across those messages. "What the hell?!" I don't understand this one, She must be convinced beth died in prison battle

There where no kids on the bus, some young adults

Babyboy09

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

I was thinking earlier, imagine if Beth came across those messages. "What the hell?!" I don't understand this one, She must be convinced beth died in prison battle

It is strange, and Beth in the pick of health while Glenn was three quarters of the way to being a walker himself.

username123

Cmon! Daryl makes new arrows! They just dont show him whittling because itd be super boring.

How come in the first episode and a couple of time in the early season 1 episodes walkers showed signs of remembering their past lives but now they dont?

Examples:
The little girl walker Rick encountered in episode 1 of season 1 bent down to pick up her teddy bear (or doll).
Morgans wife kept coming to the house, and looked up at the house as though she recognised it.

How come walkers used to be able to do things like climb on tanks and now they cant?

Why do they keep wasting bullets on walkers when it seems that its as easy as a boot heel to the head to kill them?

My biggest gripe is this though, how come walkers start eating the flesh of people when they kill them, yet most walkers dont look half chewed?

tim3000

I have one. If the survivors are all infected then why are bites and other wounds inflicted by the infected lethal? They had to cut off Herschel's leg after a zombie bit him. The wound was no way near large enough to be deadly (except for the possibility of secondary infection).

Grimebox

tim3000 wrote: »

I have one. If the survivors are all infected then why are bites and other wounds inflicted by the infected lethal? They had to cut off Herschel's leg after a zombie bit him. The wound was no way near large enough to be deadly (except for the possibility of secondary infection).

They are walking corpses, riddled with all sorts of infections and diseases. Think about how easy it is to get yourself infected if you get a bad cut and don't dress it properly. Now imagine smearing rotten meat all over it.

Paddy Cow

username123 wrote: »

How come in the first episode and a couple of time in the early season 1 episodes walkers showed signs of remembering their past lives but now they dont?

......

How come walkers used to be able to do things like climb on tanks and now they cant?

In the first season they also showed some intelligence. When the walkers were trying to get into the department store, they were using rocks to batter the glass.

Paddy Cow

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

Rick lay on the opposite side of bed

The babies supplies bag is carried by Kids. We saw them feeding and changing nappies in second episode (4x10 )from the bag

I was thinking earlier, imagine if Beth came across those messages. "What the hell?!" I don't understand this one, She must be convinced beth died in prison battle

There where no kids on the bus, some young adults

Thanks for clearing up those inconsistencies

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

I don't see why they would think its a obvious trap.
Why would you set up a trap in a random building in middle of nowhere there are just not that many people milling around?
Plus if it was a trap, why would you keep half painted bodies there to freak people out? As a trap it needed to look abandoned and not home to someone who seems to like painting dead bodies.
looked more like an opportunist kidnapping
We really don't know what happened in that scene more information will be revealed later. It was an odd scene in an odd place.

Absolutely and I hope it is something that has a reasonable conclusion. I'm probably berating Daryl and Beth more than is fair as I, as a viewer have the benefit of hindsight. They did remark that the house was very clean and well kept but they just accepted it. If it wasn't a trap, then how come a car conveniently arrived at the same time as a load of walkers and Beth got spirited away? I think whoever took Beth is not with the same group Daryl met up with. The guys Daryl are with seem more violent and less organised. They act with less finesse and I can't see them having the patience to lure people in. Does that make sense?

username123

Paddy Cow wrote: »

In the first season they also showed some intelligence. When the walkers were trying to get into the department store, they were using rocks to batter the glass.

Yeah that's true. I would also think at this stage that a lot of the walkers would be far more rotted away, like no meat left on a lot of bones.

I've mentioned before too, why they all seem to be wearing a universally loose drab grey outfit, surely some people got turned while wearing tight blue jeans and a sexy red tight top and heels?

Paddy Cow

username123 wrote: »

Yeah that's true. I would also think at this stage that a lot of the walkers would be far more rotted away, like no meat left on a lot of bones.

There was one episode where they touched on this. There was a walker that was at the base of a tree and lacked mobility. Moss and other organic matter had grown around the walker to the point where it looked like part of the tree. It did indicate that walkers may have a shelf live but it was never followed up.

username123 wrote: »

I've mentioned before too, why they all seem to be wearing a universally loose drab grey outfit, surely some people got turned while wearing tight blue jeans and a sexy red tight top and heels?

That I could let go. No matter how bright your clothes were pre-zombification, afterwards they would get dirty and ragged pretty quickly. Plus they don't have a digestive system so they can eat as many people as they want but they will ultimately loose weight, rather than gain it (this is one of those situations where we ignore logic and accept zombie rules). As for the high heels, as a non zombie I find it very hard to walk in them. I imagine if you were turned while wearing them, it wouldn't be long until you got caught in a grate or turned funny on your ankle and couldn't walk anymore.

username123

Yeah I can understand now how the dress code is Drab Chic, but at the beginning you'd think we'd have seen snappier dressed walkers!

SouthTippBass

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Thanks for clearing up those inconsistencies


Absolutely and I hope it is something that has a reasonable conclusion. I'm probably berating Daryl and Beth more than is fair as I, as a viewer have the benefit of hindsight. They did remark that the house was very clean and well kept but they just accepted it. If it wasn't a trap, then how come a car conveniently arrived at the same time as a load of walkers and Beth got spirited away? I think whoever took Beth is not with the same group Daryl met up with. The guys Daryl are with seem more violent and less organised. They act with less finesse and I can't see them having the patience to lure people in. Does that make sense?

I'm pretty sure the dog was in on it too. The kidnappers hid in the nearby trees and sent the dog to knock on the door to see who answered.

Paddy Cow

SouthTippBass wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the dog was in on it too. The kidnappers hid in the nearby trees and sent the dog to knock on the door to see who answered.

Thanks for that. I hadn't considered it but now that you point it out it makes perfect sense

username123

Given the fact of the apocalypse and people's experiences of being split from other groups or from friends/family wouldn't you imagine that people would make an in case of emergency meet up pact?

Something like, if there is some crisis and we get separated, meet on subsequent days 1 km east of our last camp at midday. Or some such.

lynski

The scene in the golf shop annoyed me, why did she only take one top,they were in no danger she had time, also there were plenty of sports bags i'd say and they didnt take any.
Daryl also didnt take any clean clothes, not even undies! and you never see them washing, apart from the prison.
Also how are the dealing with monthlies?
The whole baby thing is annoying, but i suppose they need one for the pathos.

cjmcork

how come no one has lice! surely in those conditions (ala Alien 3) these things would be rife - how come Beth's roots NEVER need to be done (this used to annoy the f**k out of me with Andrea, but then again, the way she held her head annoyed me) - why is the grass not really long............

username123

cjmcork wrote: »

why is the grass not really long............

Well they have gone through plenty of overgrown places (a good reason to keep them in the woods), but I agree the grass is not universally long.

They should all look a lot dirtier and greasier, lank hair and cold sores etc...

Paddy Cow

Not just The Walking Dead but zombie shows in general. How come they never call them zombies or think to kill them in the head when they see dead looking people things coming towards them?

Paddy Cow

Abraham's group had about six bullets left. Maggie said they used all theirs getting out of the tunnel. Where did they get all the amo to rescue Glynn and Tara?

cjmcork

ok so - I thought his name was Glenn - a few people are putting up Glynn - anyone know which it is?

Lovely Bloke

Glenn.

Paddy Cow

According to wikipedia it's Glenn. I've been using both interchangeably

Standman

A lot of the flaws in the more recent series are the result of lazy and badly thought out plot devices I think, which is a bit disappointing for such a great show.

Just a few things that have gotten on my nerves that I can remember:

Sometimes they are terrified by a small group of walkers and drop everything to run away, then other times they walk over and kill them easily like they are swatting flies.

After Brian aka 'The Governor' inexplicably massacres his own people and becomes a hobo for a few months, he then goes on to join a second community where he is so determined to not be a leader again, he decides to kill all the leaders (???), after which he of course becomes leader. Great plan there Brian.

People falling down for no apparent reason and hurting their leg, followed by obligatory surprise zombie attack where injured party slows the group down.

A small one, but Daryl opening the door to the funeral home the second time without even checking if there is danger out there. Surely at this stage he of all people is not going to be so complacent.

Cantona's Collars

The scene in the latest episode when Glenn was standing on top of the pile of rubble in the tunnel faced with about 12 walkers,he could have easily knelt down & stabbed them in the head one by one but instead decided to try to sneak around & we know what inevitably happened.

Another thing is that finding running vehicles is hard but surely with all the houses they searched you'd think they'd come across a few bikes,much easier to pedal a bike and get away from walkers than strolling along a road.

iPink

zerks wrote: »

The scene in the latest episode when Glenn was standing on top of the pile of rubble in the tunnel faced with about 12 walkers,he could have easily knelt down & stabbed them in the head one by one but instead decided to try to sneak around & we know what inevitably happened.

Another thing is that finding running vehicles is hard but surely with all the houses they searched you'd think they'd come across a few bikes,much easier to pedal a bike and get away from walkers than strolling along a road.

That is SO weird.... you read my mind. . I was literally thinking only today- why don't they use bikes. .??! Way better than walking everywhere & I'm certain there would be loads around... no need for petrol etc even just to carry stuff they need surely they would come in handy! !

How come the cars still start... I'm no mechanic but surely the batteries would be dead by now! !

Someone mentioned about them not collecting more clothes etc I have wondered about that many times too... if every comfort was taken away you can be damned sure I would be collecting clean knickers everywhere I could!!!

Also about the ladies time of the month... How do they manage & I bet loads of them are surprised by walkers when out 'dropping a morning donut' or we whatever that guy said in the last episode lol that would be some way to die... You'd never be able to have a sh1te in peace again. ..!!

Inconsistencies with the walkers are to be expected. .. but my main one has always been that we don't see more eaten or half eaten walkers around. . Presuming that many of them were turned due to being eaten!!

I still love TWD & am going to miss it so much after next week!!

Paddy Cow

iPink wrote: »

Also about the ladies time of the month... How do they manage & I bet loads of them are surprised by walkers when out 'dropping a morning donut' or we whatever that guy said in the last episode lol that would be some way to die... You'd never be able to have a sh1te in peace again. ..!!

They look healthy on the show but in reality, nearly two years of malnutrition and almost constant exertion would put a stop to their time of the month.

username123

Paddy Cow wrote: »

They look healthy on the show but in reality, nearly two years of malnutrition and almost constant exertion would put a stop to their time of the month.

They should have them looking unhealthier. Only Glenn seems to have longer more raggedy hair. Even if they are cutting their hair, the haircuts should be uneven, botched looking, patchy.

iPink

Paddy Cow wrote: »

They look healthy on the show but in reality, nearly two years of malnutrition and almost constant exertion would put a stop to their time of the month.

I'm not so sure that would stop them... nature would find a way & lorie got pregnant anyway... I don't think so really!

iPink

username123 wrote: »

They should have them looking unhealthier. Only Glenn seems to have longer more raggedy hair. Even if they are cutting their hair, the haircuts should be uneven, botched looking, patchy.

Totally agree with this. .. Was looking at the army guy with the orange flat-top... That would grow out so quickly & I'm sure they don't have hair- dressing stops along the way! ! That whole part is very unbelievable to me too!!

Naux

The inconsistent length of the grass/foliage just drives me mad...inconsistent abilities of walkers is annoying also.

This series started out so well but has become more soap opera-ish unfortunately.

Cork boy 55

Naux wrote: »

The inconsistent length of the grass/foliage just drives me mad...inconsistent abilities of walkers is annoying also.

This series started out so well but has become more soap opera-ish unfortunately.

The grass/foilage is being eaten by Animals
Animals eat grass Their populations are exploding with collapse in agriculture and humanity. Many types of animals eat grass as their main source of food, and are called graminivores – these include cattle, sheep, horses, rabbits and many invertebrates, such as grasshoppers and the caterpillars of many brown butterflies. Grasses are also eaten by omnivorous or even occasionally by primarily carnivorous animals.


Different biters have different abilities/attributes depending on range of factors
They are not Ford fiestas MK2.

Soap Opera? , what are you expecting to see?
its an extended post-apocalypse survival show, about a small group of wretched refugees. farming, foraging trying to find a shelter, bandits and biters
Sin e

username123

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

The grass/foilage is being eaten by Animals
Animals eat grass Their populations are exploding with collapse in agriculture and humanity. Many types of animals eat grass as their main source of food, and are called graminivores – these include cattle, sheep, horses, rabbits ....

But we are not seeing an explosion of animals. Daryl was out for hours in the last episode before he got a rabbit.

Predators would also be exploding and in this case the most numerous predators are the walkers - so the animals are probably being eaten by walkers too.

5starpool

To say animal populations would be exploding is just silly with the amount of bloody walkers that are around the place. I'm amazed we even see the occasional deer considering there seems to be an inexhaustible supply of walkers.

Also, If I were them I would have at some point said "ok, we are fairly near metropolitan Atlanta here, maybe that's why so many of the bloody things are around. Perhaps we should try and make our way to Idaho or Utah or somewhere that it is not as likely to be as densely populated with bloody zombies?"

Naux

:rolleyes:

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

The grass/foilage is being eaten by Animals
Animals eat grass Their populations are exploding with collapse in agriculture and humanity. Many types of animals eat grass as their main source of food, and are called graminivores – these include cattle, sheep, horses, rabbits and many invertebrates, such as grasshoppers and the caterpillars of many brown butterflies. Grasses are also eaten by omnivorous or even occasionally by primarily carnivorous animals.

We should hire these lads to keep the grass verges of our roads in Ireland down..........in TWD the grass beside roads is always very well trimmed while the grass in the fields is wild.

Go figure:D No graminivores in the fields at all...................:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Also gunshots do not scare the deer away at all...........we saw that in a recent episode didn't we.........

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

Different biters have different abilities/attributes depending on range of factors
They are not Ford fiestas MK2.

Fair enough.

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

Soap Opera? , what are you expecting to see?
its an extended post-apocalypse survival show, about a small group of wretched refugees. farming, foraging trying to find a shelter, bandits and biters
Sin e

My point being they are focusing much more on the "love stories/teenager problems/relationship problems etc etc. Stuff that the soaps normally do ad nauseam. I preferred the edginess of the earlier TWD stuff.

Paddy Cow

I would've thought that feral animals would be a problem at this stage. What has happened to all the cats and dogs? Fair enough cats aren't going to cause that much of a threat if you have riot gear like Glenn but it's strange that not even one house has a cat. As for dogs, they are pack animals. With the breakdown of society, wouldn't a pack of feral dogs pose as much threat as a horde of walkers?

Naux

Paddy Cow wrote: »

I would've thought that feral animals would be a problem at this stage. What has happened to all the cats and dogs? Fair enough cats aren't going to cause that much of a threat if you have riot gear like Glenn but it's strange that not even one house has a cat. As for dogs, they are pack animals. With the breakdown of society, wouldn't a pack of feral dogs pose as much threat as a horde of walkers?

tut tut tut, it's......................Graminivores

username123

Paddy Cow wrote: »

I would've thought that feral animals would be a problem at this stage. What has happened to all the cats and dogs? Fair enough cats aren't going to cause that much of a threat if you have riot gear like Glenn but it's strange that not even one house has a cat. As for dogs, they are pack animals. With the breakdown of society, wouldn't a pack of feral dogs pose as much threat as a horde of walkers?

Yeah, they covered this in BBCs Survivors (the original one). Unfortunately they suffered from Disney Dog Syndrome so we saw lots of placid ears back waggy tail dogs accompanied by a soundtrack of snarling and growling. But yes, it should be an issue.

lynski

The story - the apocalypse story is missing. Did I miss it or something?
Why are they not seen talking about where they were when it happened? indeed what happened? was it overnight, over a week over a month, where did it start? when did they decide they had to get moving, and why?
You would think they would have those convos with each other?

Why have they given up thinking there might be a gov or army still in charge somewhere? no regular radio attempts, or attempts to build radios and search for broadcasts.
Or search maps for military installations, government installations, etc?

jimmy180sx

Did anyone else spot the really bad animated walker with the holes in the torso in the tunnel? First it was there, in the next scene gone

Shelflife

Given that ammunition is in short supply and that getting too close to a walker is not a good idea. Why don't they all carry pikes or similar long pointy sharp things? having only a knife at this stage of the game is only asking for trouble.

Cienciano

Shelflife wrote: »

Given that ammunition is in short supply and that getting too close to a walker is not a good idea. Why don't they all carry pikes or similar long pointy sharp things? having only a knife at this stage of the game is only asking for trouble.

Exactly what I was going to say. A strong longish handle, like a pickaxe handle with a 6 inch nail sticking out the end. Just poke each walker in the head and it's gone.
The last 2 weapons in the world I'd have is ricks gun and daryls crossbow. First of all, if you have a gun, you might as well have something lighter, smaller caliber that carries a larger capacity mag than 6 shots. And a crossbow takes way too long to reload.

I hate the way sometimes they kill a load of walkers like it's easy (which it should be at this stage), but to suit the story, sometimes they run because they think they're overrun, or they just don't bother (so they can knock down a fence in the prison).
And don't get me started on the governor, pretty much everything he did or said was ridiculous.

Dandelion6

5starpool wrote: »

Also, If I were them I would have at some point said "ok, we are fairly near metropolitan Atlanta here, maybe that's why so many of the bloody things are around. Perhaps we should try and make our way to Idaho or Utah or somewhere that it is not as likely to be as densely populated with bloody zombies?"

There are plenty of islands off the US east coast. Find one, kill off all the walkers on it and you've got a virtually walker-proof base... at least until your own people start dying.