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  • #1502
    Darren 83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭Darren 83


    tang1 wrote: »
    No but I only live out the road and know that part of the country. Why you ask?

    Just wondering if it's flat or hilly


  • #1503
    tang1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Darren 83 wrote: »
    Just wondering if it's flat or hilly

    It's as flat a ten mile you will find, few small hills but nothing anyway serious. PB course to be honest as long as the weather plays ball.


  • #1504
    Firedance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    tang1 wrote: »
    It's as flat a ten mile you will find, few small hills but nothing anyway serious. PB course to be honest as long as the weather plays ball.

    now are those YOUR definition of hills or are they actual real hills :p


  • #1505
    tang1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Firedance wrote: »
    now are those YOUR definition of hills or are they actual real hills :p

    Wondering when you'd pop in to say your piece!! Nothing of Longwood proportions on this one.


  • #1506
    Firedance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    tang1 wrote: »
    Wondering when you'd pop in to say your piece!! Nothing of Longwood proportions on this one.

    I can't open that, is it the route map from their facebook or website?


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  • #1507
    tang1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Firedance wrote: »
    I can't open that, is it the route map from their facebook or website?

    It's just a photo of the elevation profile from the MapmyRun link on the first page of the thread from the race on the Events forum.


  • #1508
    tang1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Monday 25.1.16

    20 mins Recovery, had company on this, the Chief said he'd cycle his bike with me as i ran. Cue 20 mins of non-stop questions, and chasing after him on his bike. Still kept it recovery pace, kids know to much nowadays:P:P

    Tuesday 26.1.16

    6miles Easy@8.49min/miles in 52mins 52 secs

    Watch was acting the mick on the first few miles for this, 0.75 miles in on both i was on pace to break the world mile record then over the next 0.01 miles i lost 5 mins in pace:eek::eek:. It was 9min/miles all the way, everything felt good and no aches or pains anywhere.

    Wednesday 27.1.16

    15miles Easy@9.02min/miles in 2hrs 15min 27secs

    My longest run in over 18 months and the longest time i've spent on my feet in god only knows. It all went swimmingly well thankfully and felt i got stronger as the run went on. Took 250mls of water with half an electrolyte tablet 8.5miles in. Will have to start thinking about gels i suppose now, i don't like them and its again something i haven't taken in over 2 years on a run. With the amount i sweat though they are something i'll have to use i suppose to keep the body fueled over the duration of Rotterdam.


  • #1509
    Firedance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    tang1 wrote: »
    Monday 25.1.16

    20 mins Recovery, had company on this, the Chief said he'd cycle his bike with me as i ran. Cue 20 mins of non-stop questions, and chasing after him on his bike. Still kept it recovery pace, kids know to much nowadays:P:P

    Will have to start thinking about gels i suppose now,.

    Awww! Best company for a run :)

    Super going on the long run B, was just thinking about gels the other day too, I haven't taken them on a long run yet (apart from off the plane run) & hate the thought of having to use them but as you say, probably needed..


  • #1510
    tang1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Firedance wrote: »
    Awww! Best company for a run :)

    Super going on the long run B, was just thinking about gels the other day too, I haven't taken them on a long run yet (apart from off the plane run) & hate the thought of having to use them but as you say, probably needed..

    I know feck all about them that's the thing or what kind even to use, if anybody more knowledgeable can advise I'd appreciate it.


  • #1511
    Firedance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    tang1 wrote: »
    I know feck all about them that's the thing or what kind even to use, if anybody more knowledgeable can advise I'd appreciate it.

    The high five ones are the easiest to take as they are watered down, you just need to try a few to make sure they don't upset your stomach, they come caffeinated or non, kinetica are another popular brand, just pick up a few different ones & try them out


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  • #1512
    tang1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Firedance wrote: »
    The high five ones are the easiest to take as they are watered down, you just need to try a few to make sure they don't upset your stomach, they come caffeinated or non, kinetica are another popular brand, just pick up a few different ones & try them out

    Have a stomach like a steel bin so they shouldn't cause issues. As long as they don't give me the squirts.........


  • #1513
    Notwork Error
    Closed Accounts Posts: 785 ✭✭✭Notwork Error


    Firedance wrote: »
    The high five ones are the easiest to take as they are watered down, you just need to try a few to make sure they don't upset your stomach, they come caffeinated or non, kinetica are another popular brand, just pick up a few different ones & try them out

    +1. I find the high 5's easiest to take as you don't need water with them, just be careful with the flavour, I got Apple ones the last time and they cut the stomach off me. I take the Kinetics ones now which are a lot better tasting and I find I get a better kick off them, the only downside is they have to be taken with water.

    Fairplay on the training man, you seem to be going well and building up nicely.:)


  • #1514
    tang1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Notwork Error wrote: »
    +1. I find the high 5's easiest to take as you don't need water with them, just be careful with the flavour, I got Apple ones the last time and they cut the stomach off me. I take the Kinetics ones now which are a lot better tasting and I find I get a better kick off them, the only downside is they have to be taken with water.

    Fairplay on the training man, you seem to be going well and building up nicely.:)

    Cheers E, so far so good anyway. Will buy few & try them out to see how I go with them. If I could survive on water & electrolyte tabs it would be much handier.


  • #1515
    Firedance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    Notwork Error wrote: »
    +1. I find the high 5's easiest to take as you don't need water with them, just be careful with the flavour, I got Apple ones the last time and they cut the stomach off me. I take the Kinetics ones now which are a lot better tasting and I find I get a better kick off them, the only downside is they have to be taken with water.

    Fairplay on the training man, you seem to be going well and building up nicely.:)

    We need to remember the water there comes in cups with sponges & I think it's harder to take on a good quantity so gels that need less water will work better.. also, does anyone know if we can take gels in carry on luggage??


  • #1516
    tang1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Firedance wrote: »
    We need to remember the water there comes in cups with sponges & I think it's harder to take on a good quantity so gels that need less water will work better.. also, does anyone know if we can take gels in carry on luggage??

    True that, not a clue regarding bringing them on carry on. Some lamp of a guard would mistake them as plastic explosives or something!!!


  • #1517
    Firedance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    tang1 wrote: »
    True that, not a clue regarding bringing them on carry on. Some lamp of a guard would mistake them as plastic explosives or something!!!

    Ha yeah, what do they teach them in templemore!!!


  • #1518
    neilc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭neilc


    tang1 wrote: »
    True that, not a clue regarding bringing them on carry on. Some lamp of a guard would mistake them as plastic explosives or something!!!

    No problems carrying them in hand luggage! I think it was Barcelona Berlin that was the same with paper cups. I cut a wide straw in half, taped it to the gel. Then coming up to water station remove straw, pop into cup, squeeze top of cup closed and wash down gel, no spillage!! Think I picked up that tip on here, worked perfectly!!


  • #1519
    tang1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    neilc wrote: »
    No problems carrying them in hand luggage! I think it was Barcelona that was the same with paper cups. I cut a wide straw in half, taped it to the gel. Then coming up to water station remove straw, pop into cup, squeeze top of cup closed and wash down gel, no spillage!! Think I picked up that tip on here, worked perfectly!!

    Genius you are! Great idea that.


  • #1520
    neilc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭neilc


    tang1 wrote: »
    Genius you are! Great idea that.
    Can't take any credit B, definitely read it on here somewhere!


  • #1521
    Murph_D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,789 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Interesting, sounds kind of complicated though. Assume you have to open the gel before you pick up the cup? Maybe some practice needed? In Berlin I tried to take the gel just before water station, then pick up the cup and walk through the station while drinking. I found it worked well. you lose a few seconds but I reckon you get it all back.


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  • #1522
    neilc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭neilc


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Interesting, sounds kind of complicated though. Assume you have to open the gel before you pick up the cup? Maybe some practice needed? In Berlin I tried to take the gel just before water station, then pick up the cup and walk through the station while drinking. I found it worked well. you lose a few seconds but I reckon you get it all back.

    Much easier in practice than I made it sound.


  • #1523
    Firedance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Interesting, sounds kind of complicated though. Assume you have to open the gel before you pick up the cup? Maybe some practice needed? In Berlin I tried to take the gel just before water station, then pick up the cup and walk through the station while drinking. I found it worked well. you lose a few seconds but I reckon you get it all back.

    that sounds like a good plan Murph, can I ask, as an experience marathoner, do you pre plan when you're going to take your gels? I tried that in Dublin and it was a disaster because I should have made adjustments on the day to allow for circumstances and I didn't. I'm thinking just bring about 4 gels and take them (or not) on a 'see how I feel' basis, but then I worry if that's not enough planning!! Sorry for the log hijack B!


  • #1524
    tang1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Firedance wrote: »
    that sounds like a good plan Murph, can I ask, as an experience marathoner, do you pre plan when you're going to take your gels? I tried that in Dublin and it was a disaster because I should have made adjustments on the day to allow for circumstances and I didn't. I'm thinking just bring about 4 gels and take them (or not) on a 'see how I feel' basis, but then I worry if that's not enough planning!! Sorry for the log hijack B!

    No bother, was thinking 4 gels myself taking at 6, 12, 18, 24, that to far spaced apart? Along with water and electrolyte drink on the course that should be enough?


  • #1525
    Murph_D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,789 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Firedance wrote: »
    that sounds like a good plan Murph, can I ask, as an experience marathoner, do you pre plan when you're going to take your gels? I tried that in Dublin and it was a disaster because I should have made adjustments on the day to allow for circumstances and I didn't. I'm thinking just bring about 4 gels and take them (or not) on a 'see how I feel' basis, but then I worry if that's not enough planning!! Sorry for the log hijack B!

    I've never been very consistent about this but generally in a marathon I've tried to take one about every five miles, starting about mile 6 or 7. Don't think I've ever managed more than four. You'll know when you can't stomach any more. I've always carried at least five (on a hi-5 gel belt) though - it's easy to drop one and you don't want to try to pick it up!

    If I forget to take one I'd just take it when I remember and adjust from there (don't try to take two at once)! Some people take one before the start - I've never done that, trust the breakfast!

    Also if you're taking on sports drinks, jelly babies and/or other carbs during the race you might not need as many gels. It's all personal. Some people don't take any, and I can see why.

    Used to take 1-2 during a HM but don't bother with that anymore - I think they're overrated tbh. Just practice on your long runs and stick to what works. Not sure what conditions on the day would affect gel strategy, unless you find yourself out there a good bit longer than you were expecting, in which case you might need another one!

    You'll know by the last 20-miler what works for you.


  • #1526
    tang1
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    Cheers for the input D, plenty to think about and try.


  • #1527
    Firedance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    Murph_D wrote: »
    trust the breakfast!

    Ha! that's a whole other thing to worry about!!!! thanks D that's a big help.

    tang that sounds reasonable although I might say mile 23 instead of 24, I think it takes a while for the gel to kick in(?) if you know what sports drink they hand out you should try it here on a run first too..


  • #1528
    tang1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Firedance wrote: »
    Ha! that's a whole other thing to worry about!!!! thanks D that's a big help.

    tang that sounds reasonable although I might say mile 23 instead of 24, I think it takes a while for the gel to kick in(?) if you know what sports drink they hand out you should try it here on a run first too..

    It appears to be some Dutch sports drink so doubt I would be able to lay my hands on some.


  • #1529
    Duanington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Duanington


    Good to see the training going well Tang - just on the gels thing, I found trying out a few different flavours over the course of a few weeks worked well. I actually tried to avoid them on long runs leading into DCM, when I found the ones that were easy enough to take on board, I used one during one long run, just to test the waters really....pretty sure I wore all the race day gear on this one too, test it all out etc

    Anyway, each to their own but I found it best not to get into the habit of taking them on long runs, I preferred to test them on shorter runs and leave the body to fend for itself during the long stuff.


  • #1530
    tang1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Duanington wrote: »
    Good to see the training going well Tang - just on the gels thing, I found trying out a few different flavours over the course of a few weeks worked well. I actually tried to avoid them on long runs leading into DCM, when I found the ones that were easy enough to take on board, I used one during one long run, just to test the waters really....pretty sure I wore all the race day gear on this one too, test it all out etc

    Anyway, each to their own but I found it best not to get into the habit of taking them on long runs, I preferred to test them on shorter runs and leave the body to fend for itself during the long stuff.

    Cheers D, yeah be the same as that let the body fend for itself really on the long runs. The few times I've taken gels I've not been a fan. Found them very sweet, but thankfully had zero effect on the stomach. Will test things out over next few weeks.


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  • #1531
    dublin runner
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    tang1 wrote:
    It appears to be some Dutch sports drink so doubt I would be able to lay my hands on some.


    The drink is fine. Just pick up a bottle the day before to be 'accustomed'! I don't think it's available here.

    There's a decent chance that it could be 20/22 degrees (hopefully not!) so you will have to prepare for that. Sodium intake for me is very important. I like the dioralyte sachets but they can be a pain to mix with water.

    I would recommend having a plan A and plan B. Plan A being a mild Irish day and plan B a warm Rotterdam morning (the temp can really pick up towards midday). It will never get to be very hot but I think people underestimate the difference, particularly coming off a cold Irish winter and spring. Nothing to be very concerned about. It's something you can easily prepare for.


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