Political correctness gone mad

Hootanany

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572785/Tory-councillor-compared-children-burkas-binbags-kicked-party.html




He made a genuine mistake and got fired.
This has got to stop.

super_furry

Hello caller, talk to Joe!

Hootanany

Joe it's just not right.

Sir Arthur Daley

He was talking rubbish

Hande hoche!

They binned him.

Hootanany

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572785/Tory-councillor-compared-children-burkas-binbags-kicked-party.html


Hope this works

Vito Corleone

Well, it wasn't the smartest thing someone in his position could do.

Hootanany

A quick look and I would have made the same mistake.

anncoates

When they asked him to resign, could he not just refuse?

Hootanany

That's garbage

Hitchens

non story

Sir Arthur Daley

anncoates wrote: »

When they asked him to resign, could he not just refuse?

They didnt ask him to resign, he got the sack.

jane82

Is that why yer man was called bin laden.
A lad in a bin like?

aaakev

I had to look at the pic for ages before I realised there was only 1 kid!

Sir Arthur Daley

They would look rubbish in a selfie.

Panthro

All she has to do is pick up a scythe and she's got herself a Halloween costume sorted. Lucky.

WellThen?

Hahaha he sounds like good craic. He should of said he got fraped....I would of said that. I would also not have done that if I was in his position though crazy ****er. You're not allowed slag the Muslims... defo not their fashions.

Tombo2001

Politician shares blatantly racist photo and gets sacked......and what exactly is the issue here.....?

Hootanany

He thought there was 3 children.

Hande hoche!

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Politician shares blatantly racist photo and gets sacked......and what exactly is the issue here.....?

Would it not be Islamophobic?

Tombo2001

Hootanany wrote: »

He thought there was 3 children.

He says that now......

If he had thought that then there would be absolutely no point to the photo and he wouldn't have been sharing it. Who would share an image of three kids in burkas just because its three kids in burkas. There would be no point.

Its perfectly obvious from the caption what the image is about.

Femme_Fatale

Presume it was a joke (and I did lol) - bit lame of him to claim he genuinely thought the bags of rubbish were kids; why couldn't he just 'fess up that he was cracking a joke?
The punishment is harsh IMO and the joke does not automatically mean he is an islamophobe, but if you're a public official you need to watch what you say in public... and that definitely includes not making jokes about muslims or any members of a particular religion/ethnic group, no matter how good-natured the joke is!
It's not a case of whether he was joking or not, whether people agree or not... cracking jokes like that in your public life as a local politician is ****ing dopey and inappropriate and unprofessional. Oafish carry-on that you'd expect from a gombeen politician here.

Tombo2001

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Would it not be Islamophobic?

It would.

Sir Arthur Daley

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Its perfectly obvious from the caption what the image is about.

It looks like a nice estate, must have a good management company.

Rachiee

There was no honest mistake its an internet joke that's been doing the rounds for ages. Its clearly racist get can laugh at it all he likes behind closed doors but if you are a politician you can't be blatantly racist on the internet.

Vito Corleone

Has anyone actually read the article? Because I'm reading the comments and it doesn't seem like they have. :pac:

Tombo2001

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Presume it was a joke (and I did lol) - bit lame of him to claim he genuinely thought the bags of rubbish were kids; why couldn't he just 'fess up that he was cracking a joke?
The punishment is harsh IMO and the joke does not automatically mean he is an islamophobe, but if you're a public official you need to watch what you say in public... and that definitely includes not making jokes about muslims or any members of a particular religion/ethnic group, no matter how good-natured the joke is!
It's not a case of whether he was joking or not, whether people agree or not... cracking jokes like that in your public life as a local politician is ****ing dopey and inappropriate and unprofessional. Oafish carry-on that you'd expect from a gombeen politician here.

I'd guess your defense of the point would need a reference to the oxford dictionary a la Iona Institute/ Homophobe.

He's cracking/ sharing a joke that is crudely at the expense of muslim children. Does that make him an islamohobe? A court might argue not. I certainly wouldn't have shared it because it is blatantly insensitive to Muslims, and particularly because of the reference to children.

anyways....enough of the political correctness. I refuse to discuss it any further. how about some more puns.....

Hootanany

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Presume it was a joke (and I did lol) - bit lame of him to claim he genuinely thought the bags of rubbish were kids; why couldn't he just 'fess up that he was cracking a joke?
The punishment is harsh IMO and the joke does not automatically mean he is an islamophobe, but if you're a public official you need to watch what you say in public... and that definitely includes not making jokes about muslims or any members of a particular religion/ethnic group, no matter how good-natured the joke is!
It's not a case of whether he was joking or not, whether people agree or not... cracking jokes like that in your public life as a local politician is ****ing dopey and inappropriate and unprofessional. Oafish carry-on that you'd expect from a gombeen politician here.

Like the kebab one who said that?

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Yeah he knew exactly what he was at.

Did I laugh? Yes
Would I post it? Probably
In his job/position would I post it? No!!

Guy:Incognito

Tombo2001 wrote: »

It would.

So not racist then.

Hootanany

Duracell Bunny wrote: »

Yeah he knew exactly what he was at.

Did I laugh? Yes
Would I post it? Probably
In his job/position would I post it? No!!

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woodoo

The worst thing in this whole story is making kids wear burka's

Hootanany

Very oppressive

anncoates

Tombo2001 wrote: »

anyways....enough of the political correctness. I refuse to discuss it any further. how about some more puns

Unfortunately you spent so much time labouring your point that all the good ones have been used.

SimonQuinlank

At worst its insulting to muslims and at best it's an unfunny,immature and highly inappropriate joke to make for any elected official.Nothing to do with political correctness,more lack of common sense.

It's something you'd expect off a cretin like Jeremy Clarkson,not a councillor.

Baze

It's not even remotely racist.

How is poking fun at religious garb, racism

If it is, then so also is something like this.

Sir Arthur Daley

The bin men would not want to have been collecting the rubbish at that time.

Tombo2001

anncoates wrote: »

Unfortunately you spent so much time labouring your point that all the good ones have been used.

So I waffled? How unfortunate....


Sorry for boring you Ann!!!! (I know how precious your time is)

elefant

what he described as ‘blokeish banter’.

If there was any justice his use of this phrase should have led to a sacking.

vitani

The picture doesn't prove anything with regard to his feelings about Muslims, but it does prove that he's an absolute idiot for sharing it on his own page.

conorhal

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Politician shares blatantly racist photo and gets sacked......and what exactly is the issue here.....?

I think a child forced to wear a walking prision is a hell of a lot more serious then a tasteless joke. It seems to me that the majority ire is directed at the wrong source.

looksee

I have no time for burkas, but this is not PC gone mad, its just a petty minded, nasty bit of racism. There is absolutely no reason why that picture should have been taken in the first place, it is obviously a set up and it is completely unlikely that they are muslims under the burkas.

And why would he have even commented on the appearance of one child, whatever about three, when the unfortunate child is completely covered? You can bet the child isn't upholding (her) own rights to wear a burka. The man is small loss to politics.

Tombo2001

conorhal wrote: »

I think a child forced to wear a walking prision is a hell of a lot more serious then a tasteless joke. It seems to me that the majority ire is directed at the wrong source.

But thats a seperate argument.

Nobody is saying that this guy is in the wrong because actually Burkhas are brilliant.

I'd have more to say on the matter but I wouldnt want to labour the point......

He didn't compare a Burka to a bin bag, he compared a womans kid to bags of rubbish and it was a stupid, unfunny, racist joke. The whole thing compounded by him not being smart enough to realise would offend people and putting it on his page. He doesn't sound that bright so it's probably for the best tbh.

MadsL

Hootanany wrote: »

This has got to stop.

Linking to the Daily Fail? Yes I agree.

Tombo2001

conorhal wrote: »

I think a child forced to wear a walking prision is a hell of a lot more serious then a tasteless joke. It seems to me that the majority ire is directed at the wrong source.

(Here's labouring the point....)

a Walking Prison?

Its just clothes.....

If clothes are a walking prison, then will you be walking around naked this summer?

Their normal is different to your normal. I'm not defending it, just stating the fact.

Legs.Eleven

Hard to take you seriously with that thread title.

elefant

elefant wrote: »

If there was any justice his use of this phrase should have led to a sacking.

I immediately think of Jeremy Clarkson when I hear that phrase, so I'd go with death penalty instead of sacking.

sillyoulfool

Hootanany wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572785/Tory-councillor-compared-children-burkas-binbags-kicked-party.html




He made a genuine mistake and got fired.
This has got to stop.

He is very lucky that he was not prosecuted, as they take that kind of thing very seriously in the UK.
I am sure the BNP or some other extreme right wing party who share his views would be happy to have him run for them in the elections.

Stercus Accidit

looksee wrote: »

I have no time for burkas, but this is not PC gone mad, its just a petty minded, nasty bit of racism.

Burkas are not a race, nor are burkas worn by any particular race.

There is absolutely no reason why that picture should have been taken in the first place, it is obviously a set up and it is completely unlikely that they are muslims under the burkas.

Which means this is even less a comment on race/religion than on the burka itself. It could be a pile of leaves under there or very well a pile of garbage, which is what women are treated like in places that enforce the burka.

And why would he have even commented on the appearance of one child, whatever about three, when the unfortunate child is completely covered? You can bet the child isn't upholding (her) own rights to wear a burka. The man is small loss to politics.

Just because the burka is espoused by some adherents of a religion shouldn't put it beyond criticism, that applies to any idea or action or imposition on people. I thought we in Ireland would have enough experience with the dangers of putting religions and religious ideas beyond scrutiny to understand this. Many people are against the burka for valid reasons, it is a tool of control and subversion of women, it is not racist to criticize and ridicule this disgusting object of oppression.

I am not interested in the mindset or position of the man who posted the image, but the idea that the burka, which is used to treat women like garbage, is beyond the reach of criticism is a ridiculous and dangerous notion.

Stercus Accidit

Tombo2001 wrote: »

(Here's labouring the point....)

a Walking Prison?

Its just clothes.....

If clothes are a walking prison, then will you be walking around naked this summer?

Their normal is different to your normal. I'm not defending it, just stating the fact.

If it is normal clothes why aren't the men forced to wear them?