Hi vis discussion thread (read post #1)

zell12

check_six wrote: »

Was I hallucinating ...

There was a Yella Vest protest in Dublin on 15th in the pouring rain, from Custom House to Dáil.

Melodeon

check_six wrote: »

Was I hallucinating when I heard that there was to be a "Hi-Vis Day" coming up soon as advertised on the radio? Maybe I'm just misinterpreting some call to arms for a protest movement with vague objectives?

It's probably the Usual Suspects professionally-outraged crowd trying to create an Irish version of the French Mouvement des gilets jaunes.

Now, it they were trying to create a 'Maillot Jaune' movement...

zell12

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1075331887315542017

rubadub

zell12 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1075331887315542017

I wonder was anything said to the woman with the motorbike which was presumably uninsured, untaxed, no plates, no helmet etc. Not just a stand on scooter, had a little seat.

Noel Rock went on his in full view of 2 gardai who did nothing.

Ray Bloody Purchase

rubadub wrote: »

I wonder was anything said to the woman with the motorbike which was presumably uninsured, untaxed, no plates, no helmet etc. Not just a stand on scooter, had a little seat.

Noel Rock went on his in full view of 2 gardai who did nothing.
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Are those scooters illegal or not? I see they are being sold in a BMS on Abbey Street.

https://www.cyclebike.ie/scooters/

rubadub

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

Are those scooters illegal or not? I see they are being sold in a BMS on Abbey Street.

https://www.cyclebike.ie/scooters/

illegal to use on a public road AFAIK, though some like to make out like its a grey area. Totally legal to sell, you could be using them on private land.

The garda had a tweet before about doing someone on one very similar to that pictured.

DMR Traffic Electric mechanically propelled scooter stopped on public road No Insurance/Licence Scooter seized & prosecution to follow

https://twitter.com/gardatraffic/status/890477022245519361?lang=en

here is a bicycle with petrol tank
https://twitter.com/gardatraffic/status/897540601788420096

Ray Bloody Purchase

rubadub wrote: »

illegal to use on a public road AFAIK, though some like to make out like its a grey area. Totally legal to sell, you could be using them on private land.

The garda had a tweet before about doing someone on one very similar to that pictured.

Cheers, i see a lot of them on my daily commute now. They're silent and can fairly zip along.

It's a bit disconcerting to be pedaling up the bridge at Harolds Cross on the way out of town and some silent raider zooms up outside you on one of those things.

Macy0161

check_six wrote: »

Was I hallucinating when I heard that there was to be a "Hi-Vis Day" coming up soon as advertised on the radio? Maybe I'm just misinterpreting some call to arms for a protest movement with vague objectives?

Heard the ad today from the RSA - National Be Safe Be Seen Day, which is this Friday. The advert encourages wearing a hi-hiz arm band "in solidarity" FFS....

Mickiemcfist

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

Cheers, i see a lot of them on my daily commute now. They're silent and can fairly zip along.

It's a bit disconcerting to be pedaling up the bridge at Harolds Cross on the way out of town and some silent raider zooms up outside you on one of those things.

Me too, it's fairly humiliating when they whizz past you as you're on an uphill section!

check_six

Macy0161 wrote: »

Heard the ad today from the RSA - National Be Safe Be Seen Day, which is this Friday. The advert encourages wearing a hi-hiz arm band "in solidarity" FFS....

Aha! My initial hallucination is starting to spread. Everyone will be hearing it all the time shortly. Bit like St. Vitus Dancing Plague!

Could I fashion a counter armband in time? Not black, but maybe camouflage pattern? (Yes, I will still be running my bright lights, in case anyone asks).

AndrewJRenko

check_six wrote: »

Macy0161 wrote: »

Heard the ad today from the RSA - National Be Safe Be Seen Day, which is this Friday. The advert encourages wearing a hi-hiz arm band "in solidarity" FFS....

Could I fashion a counter armband in time? Not black, but maybe camouflage pattern? (Yes, I will still be running my bright lights, in case anyone asks).

I tried that last year but no one noticed

Thinkingaboutit

check_six wrote: »

Was I hallucinating when I heard that there was to be a "Hi-Vis Day" coming up soon as advertised on the radio? Maybe I'm just misinterpreting some call to arms for a protest movement with vague objectives?

So maybe all those RSA yellow jackets could overthrow the state (á la gillet jaune), and maybe get more considered cycle lane design, or a non spoofer as Minister for Transport. The RSA created a monster. :pac:

Macy0161

Would've been spotted had they had lights...

https://road.cc/content/news/253705-gatwick-drone-suspects-hid-plain-sight-riding-bikes-and-wearing-hi-vis

tomasrojo

https://twitter.com/nigreenways/status/1076492763510784000

(Ok, not hiviz)

FreudianSlippers

rubadub wrote: »

illegal to use on a public road AFAIK, though some like to make out like its a grey area. Totally legal to sell, you could be using them on private land.

Correct , see Road Traffic Act 1961, section 3:

“mechanically propelled vehicle” means, subject to subsection (2) of this section, a vehicle intended or adapted for propulsion by mechanical means, including—

(a) a bicycle or tricycle with an attachment for propelling it by mechanical power, whether or not the attachment is being used,

(b) a vehicle the means of propulsion of which is electrical or partly electrical and partly mechanical,

Clearly the Act is probably out of date and likely doesn't realistically envision electric bicycles and scooters (the latter of which I think, personally, are so dumb) and should be updated to allow for their use on public roads but require the usual safety equipment that would be expected.

I'm not sure about insurance? Seems a slippery slope - would we then logically suggest that cyclists should have a licence / insurance?

Water John

Seems to be a real problem in The Netherlands too with all these various modes of transport on the cycleways.

Hurrache

Obligatory I'm surprised they saw them to stop them comment
https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1076189573116514304?s=19

zell12

Garda join in Dublin yellow vest protest yesterday :pac:
pedestrians and wheelchairs in the bike lane etc etc

tomasrojo

https://twitter.com/damocrat/status/1077206568192622592

Grassey

garda prevents disaster after arson attack at petrol station in Cork

The arsonist was cycling a bike, wearing a hi-vis jacket and white clothing.

Guess he went full camo for this :rolleyes:

conkennedy

Grassey wrote: »

garda prevents disaster after arson attack at petrol station in Cork

"around 15 minutes later, a garda rushed to the scene"


Must be a new definition of the meaning of 'rushed'

CramCycle

conkennedy wrote: »

"around 15 minutes later, a garda rushed to the scene"


Must be a new definition of the meaning of 'rushed'

I also understood it was pure luck he was passing and spotted it.

07Lapierre

More hi viz madness! Do we really need kids wearing hi viz while sitting INSIDE a black cargo bike?

https://twitter.com/alan_downtown/status/1082217273660768256?s=21

conkennedy

CramCycle wrote: »

I also understood it was pure luck he was passing and spotted it.

Absolutely, it was just a pure coincidence he was passing by

site_owner

07Lapierre wrote: »

More hi viz madness! Do we really need kids wearing hi viz while sitting INSIDE a black cargo bike?

https://twitter.com/alan_downtown/status/1082217273660768256?s=21

Why not interact with me on the tweet?

CramCycle

07Lapierre wrote: »

More hi viz madness! Do we really need kids wearing hi viz while sitting INSIDE a black cargo bike?

https://twitter.com/alan_downtown/status/1082217273660768256?s=21

Hardly madness, some schools ask parents to put hi vis on their kids on the walk to school, they may need it for a school trip. I think its a lovely tweet, and hi vis is not the thing to be picking on. Seen other pics on the tweets of that tweeter and they don't have HI Vis so hardly a big issue.

07Lapierre

CramCycle wrote: »

Hardly madness, some schools ask parents to put hi vis on their kids on the walk to school, they may need it for a school trip. I think its a lovely tweet, and hi vis is not the thing to be picking on. Seen other pics on the tweets of that tweeter and they don't have HI Vis so hardly a big issue.

Maybe but unless the kids are going for a walk along the M50 motorway, i think Hi-viz is a bit OTT. I guess it does make it easier to count the kids if there are a lot of them.

CramCycle

07Lapierre wrote: »

Maybe but unless the kids are going for a walk along the M50 motorway, i think Hi-viz is a bit OTT. I guess it does make it easier to count the kids if there are a lot of them.

My point was that it may have nothing to do with the tweeter. I disagree with Hi Vis for school trips as most schools use it. My daughters school used Pink Baseball caps, which was very effective. It is OTT if the tweeter put them on for the trip but on the same note, that's the parents choice, I am just happy to see some more families out enjoying sustainable commuting, so long as they don't give out when I don't do it, i really don't care.

07Lapierre

CramCycle wrote: »

My point was that it may have nothing to do with the tweeter. I disagree with Hi Vis for school trips as most schools use it. My daughters school used Pink Baseball caps, which was very effective. It is OTT if the tweeter put them on for the trip but on the same note, that's the parents choice, I am just happy to see some more families out enjoying sustainable commuting, so long as they don't give out when I don't do it, i really don't care.

Fair enough... guess I’m overly sensitive to hi vis on kids! I find it very annoying.

07Lapierre

site_owner wrote: »

Why not interact with me on the tweet?

I did, but my Twitter account was set to “Private” . I’ve changed it now.