Newbie on a budget

jambofc

Hi all,ok im desperately trying to cut out my smoking,i have bought 2 ecigs from smokex the first lasting a week before stopping working and then a second that lasted 2 days before breaking down,it's as if the battery's in them just died and wont charge,the second time when i brought it back and asked for either a new one or a refund i was flatly refused,so im not going down that road with them again and now back smoking again :mad:

Im not working so i need to find an ecig that is cheap and reliable,i roll my own and only spend €20-25 a week but my health from 30+ years is really taking it's toll.

im hoping someone can recommend a plug and smoke ecig to me,i really dont want to go down the road of liquid(for now)
ive had a look around on some of the sites linked on boards but it's confusing and seems pricey compared to the smokex.(i no they broke you get what you pay for) but on the financial side i have to go cheap.
all help and ideas greatfully appreciated.

Fratton Fred

The only cheap option is to go with the liquid option.

I started with a single kit from www.thebestshop.eu and a bottle of joyetech RY4. That's about €30 (use discount code irishvape) and will last a couple of weeks.

thewintermute

http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10004594/1383905-authentic-innokin-itaste-vw-v3-0-7-in-1-variable

I don't read much about Fasttech on here, perhaps because of the three week delivery time (Hey, it's free).
If I was starting to vape again I would avoid all the other kits and spend on one of these. Liquids from fasttech are also incredibly cheap. Same brand names, Hangsen RY4 is a good place to start, there's no fancy blended flavours, but for bread and butter liquids and consumables the prices are amazing.

I think you stand a much better chance of sticking with the vaping if you start with decent kit. Weak vapes with dodgy batteries and leaky clearos will ultimately put people off.
It's very confusing to begin with and that's a reason why the cigarette looking shopping centre stand selling ones are prevalant, but a good battery clearo set up and a nice liquid is a way more satisfying experience.

jambofc

am i right that you have to buy liquid refill and Clearomizer's ?
if yes how long to the clearomizer's last?

Fratton Fred

jambofc wrote: »

am i right that you have to buy liquid refill and Clearomizer's ?
if yes how long to the clearomizer's last?

You usually buy the heating element only. These last about a week and cost around €2. You can rebuild them yourself though, which is pretty straight forward.

thewintermute

http://www.fasttech.com/products/1411/10005988/1460800

Under $6 for a 5 pack, should get a month out of that.
Fits the innokin vv I posted above. Very easy to change out.

StickyIcky

jambofc wrote: »

i have bought 2 ecigs from smokex the first lasting a week before stopping working and then a second that lasted 2 days before breaking down

You've heard of the EU gives a 2 year warranty on all electrical goods EU (Directive 1999/44/EC) and here in Ireland the Irish Sales of Goods Act its even longer than that right? Sure rechargeable batteries won't be expected to last THAT long but I'd expect a good 6 months out of a rechargeable battery. Imagine if the battery in your phone went after a week or two. You'd be raging. Take it back to the shop and get a new one! If you ask them nicely they'll probably even do it without an argument! If they flat out refuse to look after you then give the National Consumer Agency a call they'll point you in the right direction.

jambofc

is there any irish option that would be recommended ?

grindle

jambofc wrote: »

is there any irish option that would be recommended ?

Fratton Fred wrote: »

The only cheap option is to go with the liquid option.

I started with a single kit from www.thebestshop.eu and a bottle of joyetech RY4. That's about €30 (use discount code irishvape) and will last a couple of weeks.

Irish store.

€25 per week = €1250 per year.

Good starter kit + 2 coil heads a week (you probably won't need that many) + 1 bottle of juice a week = less than €1000. Enough spare change for a fancy upgrade, even!

jambofc

ok here goes

so this kit

http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/electronic-cigarettes-starter-kits/355-new-510-manual-start-kit.html

these clearomizers ??????

http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/clearomizers/354-new-510-bottom-coil-clearomizer.html

and then some juice,is that what i need?
also what are the cartridges for?
is it easier/cheaper to just buy clearomizers or ive heard about rebuilding them?

thewintermute

Hey Jambo,
They look kinda similar to the cigarette style/size ones you can get in shopping centres I think. No brand name, no reviews, very small battery life.
I wouldn't recommend to be honest, but I understand if you have budget constraints.
Maybe have a look in Ovale on Gardiner Street, there's also a new shop on Talbot street called KIK or something. You can try stuff out and get the feel of it there.
There are some Italian guys over in the arcade on Marys Street, near the Jervis shopping centre too. Nice guys and they stock DEA liquids, I found the 'calliope' to be a good starter one.
I've met folks who had tried and failed to use the cig-a-likes to quit who were completely suprised by the vape from a good battery-clearo set up.
An Ego battery with the iClear 16 heads would be a good cheap start. Buy an extra battery (a twist to vary voltage is great) as funds allow.

This gets you going €20:
http://www.vaperus.ie/starter-vaping-kits/253-ce4-single-kit.html

Extra Clearo @ €5
http://www.vaperus.ie/innokin/245-iclear16.html


Just my 2c.
Good luck with the search.

jambofc

bit of a minefield tbh :eek:

are clearomizers interchangeable ? as in do they fit all or is it a case of each brand has it's own?

jambofc

thewintermute wrote: »

Hey Jambo,
They look kinda similar to the cigarette style/size ones you can get in shopping centres I think. No brand name, no reviews, very small battery life.
I wouldn't recommend to be honest, but I understand if you have budget constraints.
Maybe have a look in Ovale on Gardiner Street, there's also a new shop on Talbot street called KIK or something. You can try stuff out and get the feel of it there.
There are some Italian guys over in the arcade on Marys Street, near the Jervis shopping centre too. Nice guys and they stock DEA liquids, I found the 'calliope' to be a good starter one.
I've met folks who had tried and failed to use the cig-a-likes to quit who were completely suprised by the vape from a good battery-clearo set up.
An Ego battery with the iClear 16 heads would be a good cheap start. Buy an extra battery (a twist to vary voltage is great) as funds allow.

This gets you going €20:
http://www.vaperus.ie/starter-vaping-kits/253-ce4-single-kit.html

Extra Clearo @ €5
http://www.vaperus.ie/innokin/245-iclear16.html


Just my 2c.
Good luck with the search.

heading into Dublin sat maybe best to look,cheers

Fratton Fred

jambofc wrote: »

bit of a minefield tbh :eek:

are clearomizers interchangeable ? as in do they fit all or is it a case of each brand has it's own?

There are two main fittings, ego and 510.

Usually, ego batteries will take both fittings, but a clearomiser will be one or the other. For a starter, I would recommend getting ego style batteries as you have a multitude of clearomisers that are compatible.

Fratton Fred

The place in Mary street is good but more expensive than online. Their cheapest starter kit is €30, which isn't as good as this one.

http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/electronic-cigarettes-starter-kits/194-single-ego-c-twist-with-ce4-starter-kit.html

But the lads in smoke different are very helpful and will show you how to work everything. They'll also let you try different flavours.

TequilaMockingBird

Get one of these starter kits for £7.50, it includes 2 clearos. Postage is £1.50. I've used them for over a year and all the batteries are still working fine. The clearos last me a month of heavy use.

http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/product-p/express.htm



I use this liquid - this huge bottle will last you aaaages. €13.99+99c delivery. I use 24mg strength.

http://www.bargainvapour.com/HS_Gold_B___H_Silver_Tobacco_100ml/p1274299_7849973.aspx


I smoked 40 a day for 25 years and haven't smoked in a year and a half now.

TequilaMockingBird

Oh, if you order the 100ml liquid, get this empty bottle with a needle tip, as the 100ml bottle doesn't have one on it. 99c.

http://www.bargainvapour.com/Needle_Bottle/p1274299_7998229.aspx

Fratton Fred

TequilaMockingBird wrote: »

Get one of these starter kits for £7.50, it includes 2 clearos. Postage is £1.50. I've used them for over a year and all the batteries are still working fine. The clearos last me a month of heavy use.

http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/product-p/express.htm.

Never heard of them before.

I've just ordered me some Brownie double nut fudge.

TequilaMockingBird

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Never heard of them before.

I've just ordered me some Brownie double nut fudge.

A great company to deal with, he always includes a little free sample of some bizarre flavoured liquid. I have quite the collection now!

thewintermute

Good Call Tequila, those are great prices.
If they really are genuine Innokin gear that's impressive. 5 iclear 16 clearos for £12 vs €5 each here. Looks like similar pricing to FastTech, but local, I wonder if he's drop-shipping or just holding limited stocks. Admittedly his range is quite narrow, but the iTaste 3 kit including 5 clearos is a steal at £30.

That starter kit from Innokin at £7.50 is the winner, perfect back up to leave in the car or whatever.

TequilaMockingBird

thewintermute wrote: »

Good Call Tequila, those are great prices.
If they really are genuine Innokin gear that's impressive. 5 iclear 16 clearos for £12 vs €5 each here. Looks like similar pricing to FastTech, but local, I wonder if he's drop-shipping or just holding limited stocks. Admittedly his range is quite narrow, but the iTaste 3 kit including 5 clearos is a steal at £30.

That starter kit from Innokin at £7.50 is the winner, perfect back up to leave in the car or whatever.

I don't know if they're genuine or not, the packaging is a bit cheap looking as you can see, but I've probably bought about twenty of them for myself and others and had no problems.

It says "Inno" on the battery?

jambofc

TequilaMockingBird wrote: »

Get one of these starter kits for £7.50, it includes 2 clearos. Postage is £1.50. I've used them for over a year and all the batteries are still working fine. The clearos last me a month of heavy use.

http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/product-p/express.htm



I use this liquid - this huge bottle will last you aaaages. €13.99+99c delivery. I use 24mg strength.

http://www.bargainvapour.com/HS_Gold_B___H_Silver_Tobacco_100ml/p1274299_7849973.aspx


I smoked 40 a day for 25 years and haven't smoked in a year and a half now.

great thanks


so im going to order that kit,now it comes with 2 clearomizers,1st thing do they come apart for cleaning and do you buy these to replace internals ?

http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/product-p/i16head.htm


or am i better off replacing entire clearomizer? these?

http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/product-p/ce5.htm

TequilaMockingBird

jambofc wrote: »

great thanks


so im going to order that kit,now it comes with 2 clearomizers,1st thing do they come apart for cleaning and do you buy these to replace internals ?

http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/product-p/i16head.htm


or am i better off replacing entire clearomizer? these?

http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/product-p/ce5.htm

No, these don't come apart, but to be honest you'll get at least a couple of months out of the two that come with it. I just bin them. If I were you I'd buy 2 of the starter kits instead, then you have a battery in use, a battery charging, and 4 clearos. But you'll manage with one if you want to try it out first.

jambofc

TequilaMockingBird wrote: »

No, these don't come apart, but to be honest you'll get at least a couple of months out of the two that come with it. I just bin them. If I were you I'd buy 2 of the starter kits instead, then you have a battery in use, a battery charging, and 4 clearos. But you'll manage with one if you want to try it out first.

when you say they dont come apart do you mean the clearomizer doesnt come apart or you cant replace the clearomizer?

sorry for all the ???????

meoklmrk91

TequilaMockingBird wrote: »

No, these don't come apart, but to be honest you'll get at least a couple of months out of the two that come with it. I just bin them. If I were you I'd buy 2 of the starter kits instead, then you have a battery in use, a battery charging, and 4 clearos. But you'll manage with one if you want to try it out first.

Def agree, you need two batteries starting out otherwise you will end up smoking while waiting for the battery to charge.

TequilaMockingBird

jambofc wrote: »

when you say they dont come apart do you mean the clearomizer doesnt come apart or you cant replace the clearomizer?

sorry for all the ???????

Don't worry about the questions, happy to help!

You can't take this particular clearomiser apart to clean or replace bits of it etc, but some other ones you can.

It is a separate part to the battery, the battery is the black piece in the pic and the clearo is the, well, clear thing you put the liquid into!

TequilaMockingBird

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Def agree, you need two batteries starting out otherwise you will end up smoking while waiting for the battery to charge.

I agree. Although these do charge really quickly, maybe an hour.

jambofc

TequilaMockingBird wrote: »

Don't worry about the questions, happy to help!

You can't take this particular clearomiser apart to clean or replace bits of it etc, but some other ones you can.

It is a separate part to the battery, the battery is the black piece in the pic and the clearo is the, well, clear thing you put the liquid into!

brilliant thanks
great price going to order 2 and as a bonus they have the same tobacco i smoke
happy days.

thanks everyone for all the help here's hopeing to a smoke free house in a few days

TequilaMockingBird

jambofc wrote: »

brilliant thanks
great price going to order 2 and as a bonus they have the same tobacco i smoke
happy days.

thanks everyone for all the help here's hopeing to a smoke free house in a few days

Best of luck with it! Don't forget the www.bargainvapour.com site for cheaper liquids - and they do next day delivery which is handy.

It's handy to have a pack of cotton buds in for cleaning the connections etc.

I had a near permanent cough from smoking - I haven't had a cough since Sept 2012 when I started vaping. It's magic stuff!

jambofc

out of stock,says it now but not when i was ordering :mad:

[URL="[url]http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/product-p/express.htm[/url]"][/url]http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/product-p/express.htm

TequilaMockingBird

They usually get them back in stock quickly. If you're in a hurry, get this one, it's the same one but with just one cartomiser.

http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/product-p/xmas-ego.htm

Alternatively, www.bargainvapour.com do them for €15 - although double the price you'd get it the next day.

http://www.bargainvapour.com/Clear_Cloud_650mah_Mini_Kit/p1274299_10860145.aspx

The Bargain Vapour one has the rebuildable cartomiser, and gives you the option when ordering to buy spare wicks (the bit that wears out).

jambofc

TequilaMockingBird wrote: »

They usually get them back in stock quickly. If you're in a hurry, get this one, it's the same one but with just one cartomiser.

http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/product-p/xmas-ego.htm

Alternatively, www.bargainvapour.com do them for €15 - although double the price you'd get it the next day.

http://www.bargainvapour.com/Clear_Cloud_650mah_Mini_Kit/p1274299_10860145.aspx

The Bargain Vapour one has the rebuildable cartomiser, and gives you the option when ordering to buy spare wicks (the bit that wears out).

out of stock also....lol i'l just wait at this stage and get 2 of your first link,thanks again for the help

TequilaMockingBird

By the time you finally get one, you'll be so grateful you'll never go near a real smoke again.

TequilaMockingBird

jambofc wrote: »

out of stock also....lol i'l just wait at this stage and get 2 of your first link,thanks again for the help[/QUOTE

They're back in stock now.

jambofc

TequilaMockingBird wrote: »

jambofc wrote: »

out of stock also....lol i'l just wait at this stage and get 2 of your first link,thanks again for the help[/QUOTE

They're back in stock now.

all ordered

jambofc

jambofc wrote: »

TequilaMockingBird wrote: »

all ordered

very slow delivery ordered a week today and still hasn't arrived

TequilaMockingBird

He was saying on Facebook he had some kind of delay filling orders, but was getting through them. Get on to him there.

jambofc

well all is now sorted and from 50/60 rollies a day for 30 years im now 1 week today smoke free

thankyou to all who helped me in this thread,very much appreciated

masonchat

Well done jambofc thats excellent

TFK

Well done you!

TequilaMockingBird

Brilliant - delighted for you!

Order some clearos from dealextreme now, as they takes ages to arrive.

TheDoc

jambofc wrote: »

well all is now sorted and from 50/60 rollies a day for 30 years im now 1 week today smoke free

thankyou to all who helped me in this thread,very much appreciated

Could you link what you ordered in the end? So many thinks in this thread

I'm smoking 20 a day at this point I got an electronic cig when they first came out via a chemist and to be fair was off smokes for about 6 weeks, work banned them for looking unproffesional, and I went straight back onto the real deal.

I've tried going cold turkey and other methods last while, keep breaking and getting a real smoke into me.

I'm in the same boat, completely knew to this sort of electronic cig with liquids etc. I don't think my habbit is related directly to nicotine, but more the routine itself. But would love to really give this a try and see how I get on.

jambofc

TheDoc wrote: »

Could you link what you ordered in the end? So many thinks in this thread

I'm smoking 20 a day at this point I got an electronic cig when they first came out via a chemist and to be fair was off smokes for about 6 weeks, work banned them for looking unproffesional, and I went straight back onto the real deal.

I've tried going cold turkey and other methods last while, keep breaking and getting a real smoke into me.

I'm in the same boat, completely knew to this sort of electronic cig with liquids etc. I don't think my habbit is related directly to nicotine, but more the routine itself. But would love to really give this a try and see how I get on.

hi Doc the one i got they dont stock the exact same one but i will give you links to another that i bought as back up,also a link for juices(i got the 100ml ry4 and love it)

http://www.bargainvapour.com/Clear_Cloud_650mah_Mini_Kit/p1274299_10860145.aspx

this is the same as i got only a bit dearer but is an irish company and anything ive ordered arrived next day.

http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/product-p/xmas-ego.htm

this is a fantastic price but delivery from them for me anyway is very slow.

http://http://www.bargainvapour.com/HS_RY4_100ml/p1274299_7912784.aspx

this is one of the juices i got,i love it and what a price but you can buy the smaller bottles and try different flavours etc.

http://stores.ebay.ie/Best-Deals-BD?_rdc=1

i found this shop on ebay usually the winning price is around the €5/6 price so with postage a fairly good price.

hope this helps any questions ask away there are plenty more on here that will help out with anything.

still smoke free

TheDoc

The one you linked for bargainvapor looks out of stock. Hmm wonder if they are quicdk enough getting more.


Is there anything else somewhat required from the start, I've seen mention of replacement parts required every so often, so I assume there is some things that need replacing on a regular basis?

jambofc

TheDoc wrote: »

The one you linked for bargainvapor looks out of stock. Hmm wonder if they are quicdk enough getting more.


Is there anything else somewhat required from the start, I've seen mention of replacement parts required every so often, so I assume there is some things that need replacing on a regular basis?

give him a buzz about the stock his number is there on the contacts page,if he wont have them for a while try this lad irish seller also but i havnt used him myself
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/171237573640?var=470344097521&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

you can spend a lot of time and money on all the gadgets and extras but if you just but the stuff in the links it will keep you going for a good while,i havnt had to buy anything extra yet.

TheDoc

jambofc wrote: »

give him a buzz about the stock his number is there on the contacts page,if he wont have them for a while try this lad irish seller also but i havnt used him myself
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/171237573640?var=470344097521&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

you can spend a lot of time and money on all the gadgets and extras but if you just but the stuff in the links it will keep you going for a good while,i havnt had to buy anything extra yet.

Cool, will throw in an order tonight, probably go with the ebay lad since he has them in stock, assuming it's pretty much the same product as the other links I've seen.

Will grab some "juice" aswell, and fingers crossed can last more then a day not smoking

TheDoc

impatient me strikes again

Ordered from the guy form ebay, and the juice from bargainvapors.

Will let you know how I get on

jambofc

TheDoc wrote: »

impatient me strikes again

Ordered from the guy form ebay, and the juice from bargainvapors.

Will let you know how I get on

it's so worth it,i have tried numerous times and failed,these new ecigs are the closest thing to a real smoke,i hardly even miss them already out at a party sat night drinking pints and stuff and didnt smoke either.

best of luck

TheDoc

jambofc wrote: »

it's so worth it,i have tried numerous times and failed,these new ecigs are the closest thing to a real smoke,i hardly even miss them already out at a party sat night drinking pints and stuff and didnt smoke either.

best of luck

For anyone interested(I've already placed my order via ebay) saw them in my local Eurospar this morning. Just the cig and charger, ut they sold juices separately.

Was 7 euro for the cig and 5 euro for juices. Handy that my local spar is stocking plenty of stuff for this, will check out if the juices are any use

jambofc

TheDoc wrote: »

For anyone interested(I've already placed my order via ebay) saw them in my local Eurospar this morning. Just the cig and charger, ut they sold juices separately.

Was 7 euro for the cig and 5 euro for juices. Handy that my local spar is stocking plenty of stuff for this, will check out if the juices are any use

thats a great price,did you see the make or do they look the same as one's linked?

TheDoc

Looked same as the one linked albeit a slightly different colour packaging.