Central Remedial Clinic debacle

Hitchens

Will this Government ever manage grow the balls to come to grips with the 'Snouts in the Trough' attitude of the so-called elite in this country?

No problems at all clamping down on a poor 'divil' on the dole getting a days work now and then.

There are reports that the Gardai may be called in, I'd say all the CEOs are trembling.

Mr.Micro

Hitchens wrote: »

Will this Government ever manage grow the balls to come to grips with the 'Snouts in the Trough' attitude of the so-called elite in this country?

No problems at all clamping down on a poor 'divil' on the dole getting a days work now and then.

There are reports that the Gardai may be called in, I'd say all the CEOs are trembling.

Bertie Ahern sure knows how to pick them.....he was another pal of Ahern appointed to the post.

Augmerson

Hitchens wrote: »

Will this Government ever manage grow the balls to come to grips with the 'Snouts in the Trough' attitude of the so-called elite in this country?

Why would they? They are all at it.

Nodin

For some background


http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0116/498159-top-ups/

No mention of the Gardaí being involved.

Hitchens

Nodin wrote: »

For some background


http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0116/498159-top-ups/

No mention of the Gardaí being involved.

yeah, Joe Duffy of RTE's Liveline mentioned it today

SeaFields

I have to say Shane Ross is absolutely brilliant to listen to in the Public Accounts Committee. He is ripping the CRC a new one whenever he gets a chance.

Hitchens

Nodin wrote: »

For some background


http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0116/498159-top-ups/

No mention of the Gardaí being involved.

More background:

The HSE’s Barry O’Brien informed the committee that further audits of CRC spending will be finished by the end of the first quarter of this year.
He said that all remaining matters will be examined and that the HSE “may seek the assistance of An Garda Siochána” over issues that arise.

http://www.thejournal.ie/crc-hearings-paul-kiely-brian-conlan-hse-top-ups-1267395-Jan2014/

kal7

I am afraid those staff on normal salaries levels and served by charities will suffer from this and inevitable drop in contributions.

But I will only be giving to those charities who stick to good codes of ethics and conduct.

The same political characters always get these plum director roles.

Will any of this secret top up money be given back to charity. Could CAB get involved?

Roger_007

I have been a supporter of CRC for many years. They will not get another cent from me until all the money stolen from the donations fund is paid back by these greedy scumbags......every last cent of it.:(

Specialun

Its a disgrace. It totals 1/2 of the revenue generated by the bear/pin sales..to think that could have gone to help a very ill child or adult instead of resting in some Khoonts account

I very rarely giving a sh!t on about these threads but to be honest listening/reading about this makes my blood boil

Disgrace to society and its a bigger disgrace that the government couldnt really give to fiddlers

Borderfox

the CRC is banjaxed over this, terrible shame over a small few.

If you dont pay the property tax the revenue go into your bank account and take it but they cant do anything about this??

Lapin

This is today's news.

Sadly it will all be forgotten about in a few days and Paul Kiely will sail into the sunset with his our 740K just like all the others have done in the past.

mike65

I listened to the RTE drivetime breakdown of todays committee roasting, it was comical and depressing to listen to hapless spoofer Brian Conlan (?) attempt to explain how he got the job of running the CRC.

Mr.Micro

mike65 wrote: »

I listened to the RTE drivetime breakdown of todays committee roasting, it was comical and depressing to listen to hapless spoofer Brian Conlan (?) attempt to explain how he got the job of running the CRC.

He did not have a clue.... Tool

snubbleste

Aren't we the government? etc etc

snubbleste

Aren't we the government? etc etc

mike65

snubbleste wrote: »

Aren't we the government? etc etc

Nope, where on earth did you get that idea from? We troop out to elect individuals who belong to parties (or no party) one or more of which may come together to form a government.

smurgen

I don't understand what's going on here like,I mean he failed to disclose the other 700k pension payout he got,why isn't the gardai looking into this?it's a clear as day that there's some major fraud/corruption going on here

snubbleste

smurgen wrote: »

I don't understand what's going on here like,I mean he failed to disclose the other 700k pension payout he got,why isn't the gardai looking into this?it's a clear as day that there's some major fraud/corruption going on here

Because nobody reported it to An Garda

ShagNastii

Love seeing Shane Ross grabbing these boys by the collar, pointing out in black and white their total corruption and scumbaggary while they squirm and murmur sickeningly poor excuses.

The man is wholly credible and it's disgusting that he is the is only one real voice in the dail fighting this scourge. All the rest twiddle their thumbs and shuffle their feet as they know, true be known, they are all on the take. Sitting pretty up to their ears with overpaid advisers and laughable expenses.

I hate the rabble rabble rabble get the bankers stuff but a times it is often understated to call things a travesty. The whole debacle with the charities is horrendous. The whole thing has turned people against worthy charities and donating to them. This bad taste will linger and the people fundraising will have their work cut out to gain back an iota of trust from the people. This will have a massive knock on effect and the big wig CEOs won't lose a single second of sleep as they are tanning themselves on their third holiday of the year in Barbados.

RayCon

Specialun wrote: »

to think that could have gone to help a very ill child or adult

And that's the most sickening aspect of this ..... :mad:

Hitchens

On the 9 o'clock RTE News just now. We're a joke of a state :mad:

Cantona's Collars

Let's have a foundation to help disabled kids.....great stuff.

Let's have the guy in charge leech as much as he can from it.........shameless,scumbag stuff.

Surely now with the revelation that he hid more money than he was 'entitled to',the Gardai have a case against him for fraud & embezzlement.

If any Joe/Josephine Soap,collected for charity and 'stole' money the way those who ran the CRC did,they'd be jailed.But in this country,the more you take the better off you are.:mad:

feargale

kal7 wrote: »

I am afraid those staff on normal salaries levels and served by charities will suffer from this and inevitable drop in contributions.

But I will only be giving to those charities who stick to good codes of ethics and conduct.

The same political characters always get these plum director roles.

All this charity stuff is a cop out by the government, who should be doing all this work and paying for it by extra taxation. That can't be done here because the rich would be severely tapped, unlike the present situation where poor suckers pay disproportionately to charities.

notnumber

Rotten to the core .gender composition..wtf is on he about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypGCcae4Nhs

wendell borton

Its theft from sick children, why aren't the gardai investigating this.

Phill Ewinn

snubbleste wrote: »

Because nobody reported it to An Garda

Gardai can investigate and charge people themselves

Busted Flat.

wendell borton wrote: »

Its theft from sick children, why aren't the gardai investigating this.

Jonathan Irwin put it in perspective on prime time this evening, as regards hours taken from the needy, to support the pensions and expenses for these low life parasites. This is Ireland after all for the parasite to reach the top.

darkpagandeath

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

Gardai can investigate and charge people themselves

Doubt anything will be done as there was a confidentiality agreement on the extra amount

From RTE website "He said he was not at the board meeting that decided it, had not read the minutes of that meeting and was unaware of the confidentiality agreement"

Anyone else think this is just the tip of the iceberg on the level of corruption here ?

Busted Flat.

Hopefully this will roll till the EU and local elections and destroy the necessary.

toshiba2010

I think it,s a f***ing disgrace what going on in the C.R.C. they should all be made pay that public money back and if they have spent it there homes should be taken off them and sold to recoup the losses . they should be ashamed of them self they don,t be long in society . all of the other charity,s are going to suffer because of this scandal .

Busted Flat.

toshiba2010 wrote: »

I think it,s a f***ing disgrace what going on in the C.R.C. they should all be made pay that public money back and if they have spent it there homes should be taken off them and sold to recoup the losses . they should be ashamed of them self they don,t be long in society . all of the other charity,s are going to suffer because of this scandal .

You must try and understand the Golden Circle do not do ashamed or embarrassment, and applies to all parties.
Ps. what about the coffins and the big one living off shore.

LynnGrace

I find this story particularly distressing, and I can only imagine how it will impact long term on the CRC. Who wants to give their time and hard earned money to fundraise or donate to a charity when they know it is being used to fuel greed.

Stavros Murphy

And what will be done? Fcuk all. "Contractual obligations" "Legal reasons" "Reform will be implemented going forward" . People will bitch, time will pass, not two fcuks will be given.

homerjay2005

absolutely disgraceful, this country is rotten to the core. it will take a generation of them c*nts dying off before we are able to get back on track.

he should be made give it all back but i am sure he wont pay a cent.

Stojkovic

Ireland is the most corrupt country in the developed World. Always has been and always will be. Dont fool yourself otherwise.

Busted Flat.

Hopefully when they get rid of the corrupt, people will start to appreciate the voluntary people who are still there. The corrupt have got to brought to task to protect the genuine people, some who give all their time for the disabled.
I do not hold out much hope for this to happen though, there to many corrupt people looking after their own interest to give a fook about the voluntary sector who support the institutions who the state fail to support

Hitchens

remember when the late Brian Lenihan told us that "we all partied"......

.......looks like the mandarins are still partying

For Forks Sake

Stojkovic wrote: »

Ireland is the most corrupt country in the developed World. Always has been and always will be. Dont fool yourself otherwise.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2013/results/

Stavros Murphy

Stojkovic wrote: »

Ireland is the most corrupt country in the developed World. Always has been and always will be. Dont fool yourself otherwise.

Russia is a dream by comparison, as is Albania. Or Brazil. Or Coloumbia. I could go on.

Ireland isn't, it just has a certain class of cnut that is expert at extracting capital by the boatload in a way that is very hard to class as criminal. There's always a sly little agreement, a neat little contract, a longstanding arrangement. And what is Joe Soap supposed to do? Protest? Good luck with that.

beertons

Last time I buy one of those little teddy bear things.

Busted Flat.

Hitchens wrote: »

remember when the late Brian Lenihan told us that "we all partied"......

.......looks like the mandarins are still partying

Get a grip it was Noonan

Stavros Murphy

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Hopefully when they get rid of the corrupt, people will start to appreciate the voluntary people who are still there. The corrupt have got to brought to task to protect the genuine people, some who give all their time for the disabled.
I do not hold out much hope for this to happen though, there to many corrupt people looking after their own interest to give a fook about the voluntary sector who support the institutions who the state fail to support

Yeah, because the meek will indeed inherit the earth, but only if the b0lloxes die and leave it to them.

michael999999

They may as well change the name from the friends of the CRC to the friends of Fianna fail!

Stavros Murphy

Because Nama and FG don't give all the work going to their friends and associates, at all, at all.

Cantona's Collars

Has anyone mentioned the use of a credit card which was meant for business but was also used for 'perks'.
When these guys were being interviewed for these jobs was it a given that they had to be a parasite and a leech as part of the application process.

Floppybits

Just heard our dear leader on the news there on tv3 saying that this was a part of the past and is longer happening. Does that idiot really think we believe that?

What has happened at the CRC is sickening but I would bet my next pay cheque that it won't be the last or worst of what these cnuts get up to on other charities.:(

tayto lover

In my opinion there is no difference in this story and the cronyism of the Government. They gave family members well paid positions. Wasn't Gilmour's wife well looked after too.
A bit two-faced watching them complain about this today.

They were elected on a policy of cleaning up politics and all they have done is continue what FF were doing.

Busted Flat.

zerks wrote: »

Has anyone mentioned the use of a credit card which was meant for business but was also used for 'perks'.
When these guys were being interviewed for these jobs was it a given that they had to be a parasite and a leech as part of the application process.

Yes, they came from low life and qualified in the art, and got degrees in corruption, and parasiteism in the school of politics.

Big C

anybody know how long Kiely was CEO of crc, 125 years to get that pension

tayto lover

It really is time for a big round-up in this country.