Ideal place to setup camp in a zombie apocalypse?

Its All Wright

I was discussing The Walking Dead with my mates at the weekemd over a couple of beers, for those who have never seen it you should have a good hard look at yourself because Its a great tv series about a zombie apocalypse & the survival of the human race.

Anyway we were talking about where you would want to setup camp in the unlkely event of a zombie apocalypse. I said i would hold myself up in a supermarket, maybe a Tesco. It wouldnt be Aldi or Lidl anyway..who wants to be living off cheaply branded rich tea biscuits or wearing a fake rugby world cup jacket for the rest of your days. Nah i want that McVities sh!t & a decent knitted jumper. Plus a lot of Tescos have a Tech/entertainment departments so your going to be able to hook up that PS4, play video games & watch countless dvds while the zombies are outside muching on everyone in sight. Id let people in but id probably be too busy playing GTA IV to be honest. I cant think of any downsides to living in Tesco, id probably live there now if i could.

Where would you setup camp in a zombie apocalypse?

Sir Humphrey Appleby

Isn't there already a Zombie Camp in Kildare Street?:D

Or at least a building filled with Zombies!

danniemcq

You think power would last that long?

and generators need fuel so you need to head out to refill it or get more fuel. You also then run into issues with noise, a generator is noisy and will attract both the undead and those that wish to take advantage of what they see as the end.

I dunno which group is scarier but you are gonna have to deal with both.

You need to multiple requirments, things like line of sight, defences, abilities to be self sufficient, escape plans. and if during all this you by some miracle get GTA V running and ignore the more immediate dangers you will be seen as a liability rather than a friend.

You do not want that.

EDIT: even if you were super quiet Tescos and other supermarkets and gonna be looted at the start. they will be rammed if they are closed and cleaned out. There isn't gonna be anything there

Fratton Fred

I think Sean had the right idea. Go to the pub.

Maximus Alexander

In a hospital, police station, supermarket, port or airport. That's where all the humans would rush to, so plenty of brains to eat.

knickerbocker

Linda Martins house...... No zombie would risk it!

Seedy Arling

knickerbocker wrote: »

Linda Martins house...... No zombie would risk it!

Bar the zombie living there.

Paulie Gualtieri

Singer castle on Dark Island. There or on top of the shed.

knickerbocker

Seedy Arling wrote: »

Bar the zombie living there.

Just keep feeding it hairspray and tell it that it's a real star, then you should be okay.

dpofloinn

I think id take a medieval approach. Set my self up in a castle/tower house.Nice high walls one entrence one exit good line of sight,its own water supply,some ground to grow my own food etc

Too many flaws with your plan. Supermarkets are usually found in towns which means population center which means lots of zombies,super markets tend to have alot of doors and windows which makes them impossible to denfend ,limited food and water supply 2/3 years max depending on number of survivors (How long does a zombie apocalypse last?)power will be cut off so no GTA,supermarket equals big target for raiding by other survivors

danniemcq

knickerbocker wrote: »

Just keep feeding it hairspray and tell it that it's a real star, then you should be okay.

you might "get lucky"

jeez thats wrong on so many levels

DannieHasABrazilian

DannieHasABrazilian wrote: »

You think power would last that long?

and generators need fuel so you need to head out to refill it or get more fuel. You also then run into issues with noise, a generator is noisy and will attract both the undead and those that wish to take advantage of what they see as the end.

I dunno which group is scarier but you are gonna have to deal with both.

You need to multiple requirments, things like line of sight, defences, abilities to be self sufficient, escape plans. and if during all this you by some miracle get GTA V running and ignore the more immediate dangers you will be seen as a liability rather than a friend.

You do not want that.

EDIT: even if you were super quiet Tescos and other supermarkets and gonna be looted at the start. they will be rammed if they are closed and cleaned out. There isn't gonna be anything there

These are all the things that ran through my head when I was reading the OP!

I have my place picked, and I ain't sharing it with you lot, nor siree bob. It's not particularly well known but I know it like the back of my hand! That's if I make it there at all of course.

You need to get yourself a Zombie Survival Guide OP otherwise you're gonna be zombie food real quick.

x43r0

Provided it had enough supplies I think an Oil Rig is the perfect solution

No zombie is going to get near you

lolosaur

anywhere the OP isnt is a good start!!!!

helimachoptor

Started watching TWD before xmas and am up to speed now, great series but as said above, if you have something useful people will attack you for it, you need to fields of fire etc to defend your self in an attack, good escape routes.
Fuel will be a problem..

Akrasia

Are we talking dumb slow zombies or fast problem solving zombies here?

I reckon you need somewhere that was specially designed to keep unauthorised people out.
A sports stadium would be the best IMO. Get yerself into Thomand park. Should have plenty of beer from the various bars, you'd get a bit of chocolate and sweets to keep you going short term from the stalls, but in medium long term, you could catch birds for food and collect rain water. if somehow humans manage to overcome the zombie hoards, a chopper shouldn't have too much trouble landing in the pitch to safely rescue you.

IvySlayer

Join the navy and get transferred to a ship and get a gun hopefully, then dock on an island and hope to survive it there with regular supply runs to the mainland using the ship

danniemcq

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

In a hospital, police station, supermarket, port or airport. That's where all the humans would rush to, so plenty of brains to eat.

Hospital is another bad idea, thats where the first infected will be being treated so will have some leftovers for sure,

Police station, once you lock yourself in you have no escape

docks, to much of a crush with people trying to get away. very easy for the infection to spread in crowds, overcrowded boats could sink and if someone is infected on board and you don't know till you are a few km off shore you are screwed

airports, same as ports really. the fight for places on a plane every plane in a hurry to go somewhere will lead to crashes on the runway meaning blockages and nobody to clear them.

IvySlayer

Akrasia wrote: »

Are we talking dumb slow zombies or fast problem solving zombies here?

I reckon you need somewhere that was specially designed to keep unauthorised people out.
A sports stadium would be the best IMO. Get yerself into Thomand park. Should have plenty of beer from the various bars, you'd get a bit of chocolate and sweets to keep you going short term from the stalls, but in medium long term, you could catch birds for food and collect rain water. if somehow humans manage to overcome the zombie hoards, a chopper shouldn't have too much trouble landing in the pitch to safely rescue you.

Spike Island?

endacl

x43r0 wrote: »

Provided it had enough supplies I think an Oil Rig is the perfect solution

No zombie is going to get near you

Score! With a rainwater capture system, a good fishing rod, and a boat to get to the mainland once all the brains have been eaten and nature's taken care of the zombies. http://boingboing.net/2013/10/14/zombiesvsanimals.html

Couple of months out at sea. Plenty of fresh water and omega 3 oils from the fishies. Sure you'd be Da Bo$$ when you rocked back into town!

Fratton Fred

Apparently the G-spot would be ideal.

No one would ever find it!

Professey Chin

I already have my place in the bog arse of nowhere picked. Easily defended, plenty of wood, good views, good land, low population.

danniemcq

Akrasia wrote: »

Are we talking dumb slow zombies or fast problem solving zombies here?

I reckon you need somewhere that was specially designed to keep unauthorised people out.
A sports stadium would be the best IMO. Get yerself into Thomand park. Should have plenty of beer from the various bars, you'd get a bit of chocolate and sweets to keep you going short term from the stalls, but in medium long term, you could catch birds for food and collect rain water. if somehow humans manage to overcome the zombie hoards, a chopper shouldn't have too much trouble landing in the pitch to safely rescue you.

what makes you think you and your couple of mates or however many are that important you are gonna be rescued fairly quick? Look at what happened after Katrina and thats the US government unable to mount a rescue operation in a relative calm enviorment.

how many birds do you think you can catch a day and how many would you need to catch in a day to survive and how many people are gonna be there with you?

Its All Wright

From watching The Walking Dead, when they go into towns for supplies etc they appear to be empty. If i could take the supermarket and somewhat make a secure perimeter like the town Woodbury in The Walking Dead id like to thing id be safe. As for power supply its not like im going to be cut off anytime soon for not paying the bills

I wouldnt be alone, id let family & mates in..Anyone else who would have to prove they could bring something to the game if they wanted entry & a packet of Tayto cheese & onion

x43r0

Its All Wright wrote: »

From watching The Walking Dead, when they go into towns for supplies etc they appear to be empty. If i could take the supermarket and somewhat make a secure perimeter like the town Woodbury in The Walking Dead. As for power supply its not like im going to be cut off anytime soon for not paying the bills.

Yes but if the power stations are deserted then the grid won't be getting any supply.

Better start looking for generators

jimgoose

It occurs to me that the biggest issue with surviving a Zombie Apocalypse in Ireland is not so much to do with where you headquarter yourself, but the lack of decent firearms and ammunition. At least in the U.S. you can keep an AR-15 chambered in .308 Winchester with a grenade-launcher, and plenty ammo, handy.

Its All Wright

x43r0 wrote: »

Yes but if the power stations are deserted then the grid won't be getting any supply.

Better start looking for generators

You never know, Tesco might have some in there back stores, worst case scenerio i could do without power, plenty of material to burn in tesco plus its full of pots & pans in order to cook

danniemcq

Its All Wright wrote: »

From watching The Walking Dead, when they go into towns for supplies etc they appear to be empty. If i could take the supermarket and somewhat make a secure perimeter like the town Woodbury in The Walking Dead id like to thing id be safe. As for power supply its not like im going to be cut off anytime soon for not paying the bills

I wouldnt be alone, id let family & mates in..Anyone else who would have to prove they could bring something to the game if they wanted entry & a packet of Tayto cheese & onion

um i haven't seen much of it but i do remember the start of season one, didn't look to empty then.

and like i mentioned most supplies will be looted anyway so setting a base there would be pointless.

and you do know that there are faults all the time with the grid. heck it all rely on a huge and complex system, things will go wrong and when they do there will be nobody to fix them.

Also the minute you think you are safe you let your guard down. never assume you are safe and you will survive a lot longer

Plazaman

DannieHasABrazilian wrote: »

Hospital is another bad idea, thats where the first infected will be being treated so will have some leftovers for sure,

Police station, once you lock yourself in you have no escape

docks, to much of a crush with people trying to get away. very easy for the infection to spread in crowds, overcrowded boats could sink and if someone is infected on board and you don't know till you are a few km off shore you are screwed

airports, same as ports really. the fight for places on a plane every plane in a hurry to go somewhere will lead to crashes on the runway meaning blockages and nobody to clear them.

DannieHasABrazilian wrote: »

what makes you think you and your couple of mates or however many are that important you are gonna be rescued fairly quick? Look at what happened after Katrina and thats the US government unable to mount a rescue operation in a relative calm enviorment.

how many birds do you think you can catch a day and how many would you need to catch in a day to survive and how many people are gonna be there with you?

I'm seeing lots of negatives but no positives. C'mon Danny FFS, are you going to be a hinderence or a help during this apocalypse. Suggestions man, suggestions.

I'm thinking a well stocked hardware store. From the limited episodes of TWD that I've seen, a well placed scythe or a chainsaw would sort out a Zombie fairly lively. Plus they're no harm in sorting out a few of the me feín civilians who want to loot instead of becoming part of the EZKST Irl ™®.

Elite Zombie Killing Scythe Team Ireland is a registered trademark and part of the Lucozade Energy and Curley Wurley brand names.

danniemcq

Deleted User wrote: »

These are all the things that ran through my head when I was reading the OP!

I have my place picked, and I ain't sharing it with you lot, nor siree bob. It's not particularly well known but I know it like the back of my hand! That's if I make it there at all of course.

You need to get yourself a Zombie Survival Guide OP otherwise your gonna be zombie food real quick.

I'll show you mine if you show me yours....

mitosis

Alcatraz

Maximus Alexander

DannieHasABrazilian wrote: »

Hospital is another bad idea, thats where the first infected will be being treated so will have some leftovers for sure,

Police station, once you lock yourself in you have no escape

docks, to much of a crush with people trying to get away. very easy for the infection to spread in crowds, overcrowded boats could sink and if someone is infected on board and you don't know till you are a few km off shore you are screwed

airports, same as ports really. the fight for places on a plane every plane in a hurry to go somewhere will lead to crashes on the runway meaning blockages and nobody to clear them.

Precisely, everyone will go there, which means there will be a plentiful supply of tasty brains. They're the perfect spots to set up!

jbdub

Somewhere like Clare island, remote enough that there won't be too many zombies to deal with but close enough to mainland for supplies etc

You'd be able to fish farm etc and set up defences in one of the buildings.

I have probably given this more thought then i'd like to admit......

everlast75

[Deleted User] wrote: »

These are all the things that ran through my head when I was reading the OP!

I have my place picked, and I ain't sharing it with you lot, nor siree bob. It's not particularly well known but I know it like the back of my hand! That's if I make it there at all of course.

You need to get yourself a Zombie Survival Guide OP otherwise your gonna be zombie food real quick.

Ned Flander's bunker?

Its All Wright

Fair to say no where would be perfectly safe & are likely be in danger everyday..you could live out at sea but would still need to come back on land for fresh water & food unless you could live off fish & hope it rains a lot..il take my chances in Tesco

John Mason

i was thinking the Zoo.

Big fences to keep people out. Animals to eat and to the feed the walkers to.

you are also close enough to the vegetable garden the Phoenix park and there is plenty of clean water

dilallio

Bill Murray's house

danniemcq

Plazaman wrote: »

I'm seeing lots of negatives but no positives. C'mon Danny FFS, are you going to be a hinderence or a help during this apocalypse. Suggestions man, suggestions.

I'm thinking a well stocked hardware store. From the limited episodes of TWD that I've seen, a well placed scythe or a chainsaw would sort out a Zombie fairly lively. Plus they're no harm in sorting out a few of the me feín civilians who want to loot instead of becoming part of the EZKST Irl ™®.

Elite Zombie Killing Scythe Team Ireland is a registered trademark and part of the Lucozade Energy and Curley Wurley brand names.

Ok, my rough plan cause i'm not getting into details especially online where so many people could see it would be something like. Get a few bikes and repair kits. This is gonna be your main mode of transport. No fuel very little maintainance and can be carried. Next somewhere open, you need to see whats around you. This could obviously lead to problems with bandits etc but there are steps that could be taken to reduce exposure.

basic equipment would be flint steel, small axe, telescopic fishing rod, charcoal, wind up torch, a small telescope, perhaps a lazer pointer, wind up GPS and walkie talkies and a solar usb charger too. Basic first aid kits and generic antibiotics are a must have too.

A place by the coast and maybe a forest would be ideal. a few hidden boats would allow easy escape from anything you wanted to get away from, no engines though, unreliable and noisy. setting up a perimater is easy enough too, rig it in such a way that if a wire or whatever is tripped a sound unique to that area or line is sounded. That way you know what direction they are coming from instead of scanning and listening. multiple lines that are triggered afer the first would give an even clearer direction indication. animal traps can easily be modified to capture human size targets too.

With something like this you have to remember that the more basic your equipment and plan the better. if you are relying on something having fuel you are gonna be dissappointed and batteries will die at the worst times.

danniemcq

Sh*t almost forgot you also need duct tape and wd40.

If it moves and it shouldn't tape it,
If it doesn't move and it should wd40 it

bear1

Number 1:

I'd go through the Boards gun forum and find out where the guns are most likely to be

I think hiding in a supermarket is a bad idea if you have long term intentions, too many entrances and too hard to clear.
I'd want a place with 2/4 entrances - easier to escape.
I'd want an armored car of some sort, not sure where to find them tbh.
A not so bad place to live would be maybe a ship?
Or.... get to the nearest army barracks. Get as many weapons as possible.
Try and gather 20/30 people and make sure there are more guns than people.
Feck off onto my new cruise liner and sail away to a nice appropriately sized island.
Start rebuilding civilization (repopulating will be my favourite task) and then slowly wage war braveheart style on a now dead Ireland
Now THATS a movie!

Fussgangerzone

x43r0 wrote: »

Provided it had enough supplies I think an Oil Rig is the perfect solution

No zombie is going to get near you

You have to bring absolutely everything with you, though.

lolosaur

concrete walls over trip wires any day of the week.

you seem to be living in a ditch. It's a zombie apocolypse, not season 27 of survivor....

get yourself secure. get yourself protected. get yourself a generator. get yourself supplies.


in theory

4 million people in ireland.
lets assume every person kills 1 zombie.
every zombie rips asunder 1 in 2 victims and gorges on their bodies.

1 million left, zombies or survivors left to roam the streets - thats being generous.

for sake of arguement lets say 900,000 are zombies/ 100,000 survivors. you only need to kill 9 zombies each.

most of these are in or around urban populations. they are not coming down from dublin because they heard it on the zombie grapevine some lad is living in a tescos in offaly etc... A finite amount will be in your location for an period of time. this wont change rapidly. there would be days where you wouldnt see a zombie and places where you might see hundreds.

if it's a zombie apocolypse. whats your rush, you have the rest of your life to kill zombies. get the basics right first. food water shelter protection etc..

Fussgangerzone

A vegetable farm with a house.
Permanent food supply, although it might take a year to fully organise.
Loads of tools / weapons, might even have a shotgun.
Probably remote enough that's it not mad dangerous.
Probably has a big diesel tank, which could be handy.

wexie

bear1 wrote: »

Try and gather 20/30 people and make sure there are more guns than people.

If any of the zombie movies or tv shows are anything to go by you'll have more guns than people soon enough

EDIT : just for those that don't already know, Boards actually has a zombie survival forum here : http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1079 lots of good info and ideas there.
(it's like one of those nature valley bars, full of fruits, flakes and nuts )

Tiddlypeeps

Ireland is pretty sparsely populated once you go outside Dublin, so getting out of Dublin would be priority number 1. Depending on how bad the outbreak was and where it originated I'd either immediately get the hell out of dodge or I would go somewhere like the Tesco in Naas to stock up on as much as I could fit in my car (water, tinned foods, traveling cooking supplies, things for laying traps catching rabbits like rope and wire if I can find any, knives, lighters, lots of lighter fluid, sleeping bags, torches, batteries, tents & tarp if I can find em, clothes and backpacks if I haven't managed to bring my own from home etc.). Same for petrol, as many of those handheld gallon tanks as I could get my hands on (probably not gonna be a lot, but nice to have extra).

I'd then find somewhere really remote that has a forest, like Killarney national park or someplace like it and set up camp. If you set up a decent camp you should very rarely if ever need to go back to a town to restock.

Buildings are only going to draw the wrong sort of attention. Once you are out of urban centres your biggest concerns are other survivors wanting to steal your stuff, so unless you are armed to the teeth I wouldn't want to take my chances.

endacl

Other survivors might not be an issue. Go cannibal. instead of competition, they're food. If they're food, they won't be zombies. Win-win.

Plus, you can nick their supplies.

Fratton Fred

Spitbank fort would work, if you took a few cows and sheep with you.

Ain't no zombies getting in there.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spitbank_Fort

bear1

Yeah, getting there would be the main issue
And if the world ends, no way in hell would I decide Portsmouth is the place for me

danniemcq

lolosaur wrote: »

4 million people in ireland.

4.5 in 2012 plus another 1.8 million in the six counties. both sets of data are 2 years old and only account for people who filled in a census. so we could be looking at over 7 million on the island, not counting holiday makers or people here illegally.

Then you have to consider who can actually fight, ages 15–64 years 67.0% of the popualtion so thats just over 4.5 million who could possibly fight.

among this group you have people that couldn't kill, if their child for instance is infected could you bash its head in? Lots of people couldn't and its not just children, your wife/husband/girlfiend/boyfriend/family/friend could have the same responce from you. Then you have those who just cannot cope with this and shut down completly.

so again your fighting force is cut down badly. Then you have those who physically cannot fight for whatever reason.

And you have to remember that all these people who are nullified against the zombies now have 0 issues with turning on humans.

The number of fighting fit people now have slumped in a HUGE way and thats not including accidents by the survivors where leg breaks or injuries would cripple them. Morale would slump, security would drop etc etc

Fratton Fred

bear1 wrote: »

Yeah, getting there would be the main issue
And if the world ends, no way in hell would I decide Portsmouth is the place for me

There's plenty of fairly well armed boats in Portsmouth harbour, I'd "borrow" one of them. I reckon a Phalanx would do a pretty good job of keeping zombies away and you could even head.to the Caribbean for the winter.

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