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Irish man shortlisted for Mars mission. (one way ticket only)

  • 09-01-2014 11:29am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    An amazing opportunity, no doubt about it.
    Growing up on a small farm in Kildare, Joseph Roche spent many clear nights gazing at the stars, dreaming of becoming an astronaut. He couldn’t have known that, 20 years later, he would be undergoing a medical examination as part of the selection process for a manned mission to Mars.

    Last week, a private space exploration company called Mars One announced that it has shortlisted 1,058 people from 200,000 applicants who wanted to travel to Mars. Roche is the only Irishman on the list. The catch? If he goes, he can never come back.

    If you think the whole thing sounds crazy, you wouldn’t be the first. Even the man behind the project admits it’s a gargantuan task. Bas Lansdorp, a Dutch engineer and entrepreneur, aims to land a colony of four astronauts on the surface of Mars by 2025

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/life-on-mars-irish-man-signs-up-for-colony-mission-1.1648449

    Admittedly, he's still only one of 1k odd people to be shortlisted, but to make it that far from 200k+ is pretty good going.

    Personally, with a wife and kids, I'm happy enough to pass away on on earth, and spend the rest of my life watching them grow up up etc.


    Opinions please?

    Would you go to Mars given the opportunity, knowing full well when that rocket blasts off, you're essentially leaving the only world you've ever known (in fact the human race has ever known) for good?

    Poll coming up.

    Edit. To make the thread a bit more interesting.

    What one thing from earth, would you miss that you won't find on mars?


    Mine would be the smell of the rain, falling on earth after a period of hot, dry weather.

    Would you like to be one of the first humans to visit Mars? Even on a one way trip? 97 votes

    Definitely.
    0% 0 votes
    No way.
    100% 97 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    It's not going to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Littlelulu13


    I wouldn't go even if I could return! Flying across Europe is enough for me :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭preston johnny


    Can I send my wife?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,199 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Emigrating to Australia is bad enough, but this is getting silly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Can I send my wife?

    Post a few pictures to help us decide.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    A 1 way ticket with only 3 other people... there better be a good internet connection on mars


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    jester77 wrote: »
    A 1 way ticket with only 3 other people... there better be a good internet connection on mars

    What if the other 3 were extremely fit, Buxom ladies, with excellent sexual skills?

    (and they all fancied you???)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    You'd have to kill the other 3 astronauts before one of them flips out and kills you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭donegal__road


    What if the other 3 were extremely fit, Buxom ladies, with excellent sexual skills?

    (and they all fancied you???)

    Id say you'd soon get bored of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    jhegarty wrote: »
    It's not going to happen.

    Yeah, ultimately a publicity stunt.

    They are going to raise something like 6 billion dollars by crowd sourcing to fund this. Sounds like a lot of money, but not when you want to support 4 people on Mars.

    Nice cause though. Roll up! Roll up !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    What if the other 3 were extremely fit, Buxom ladies, with excellent sexual skills?

    (and they all fancied you???)

    There would be some serious inbreeding after 20+ years :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Doesn't ring true.

    Many of those 1,000 would/will change their tune if they ever meet the right lady/man and/or have children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    God I ****ing hate The Darkness. :mad:

    They even make Nickelback music sound good in comparison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    jester77 wrote: »
    There would be some serious inbreeding after 20+ years :eek:
    It'll just be like that Adam & Eve story so!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    jester77 wrote: »
    There would be some serious inbreeding after 20+ years :eek:

    It'd be like Navan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    jester77 wrote: »
    There would be some serious inbreeding after 20+ years :eek:

    Even that issue would give rise to HUGE problems. Assuming it is a mix male/female crew, one would imagine that they would have to be sterilised in order to avoid the risk of one of them getting pregnant - no facilities for having/rearing a child on mars.....would it even be fair to them?

    Elaborate reality tv show - ultimately going nowhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭muppetkiller


    To be fair it would be a fantastic opportunity but you'd certainly want to get on with the other 3 people...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    another irishman planning emigration


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    It will probably turn into a deathmatch

    Who's going to police them when they are 35 million miles away..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭born2bwild


    Maybe it's Brendan O'Carroll?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    No matter how much profiling and psychological screening goes on beforehand, there's alway the danger that 7 hours after blasting off, one fúcker will turn around and say "I didn't tell them this on earth but I love sucking peoples ears where they're asleep".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭murphym7


    So they are undergoing medicals now for something that is going to happen in 2025, a little silly. Plus it’s never going to happen. What are they going to do with the successful candidates until they take off? If it is going to happen, I can guarantee anyone on the shortlist now will not be the ones actually going, too far away and too many variables that can happen between now and then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Probably leaving Kildare for Mars to get a decent broadband connection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    jester77 wrote: »
    There would be some serious inbreeding after 20+ years :eek:
    I remember reading they'd send more people up periodically. It isn't just, well, there's 4, that's it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    It will happen someday though, this will at least get the world thinking about it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 47 EdwardCastle


    murphym7 wrote: »
    What are they going to do with the successful candidates until they take off?.

    Ehhhh....training perhaps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Pushtrak wrote: »
    I remember reading they'd send more people up periodically. It isn't just, well, there's 4, that's it.

    No I was listening to an interview by the guy shortlisted.
    He said groups of 4 people every few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    No I was listening to an interview by the guy shortlisted.
    He said groups of 4 people every few years.
    Just went to the site. One year after the first group is sent, they'll be sending group two (along with cargo for the third crew).

    http://www.mars-one.com/mission/roadmap


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭preston johnny


    born2bwild wrote: »
    Maybe it's Brendan O'Carroll?

    Nah, even the Martians think he's brutal


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    It will probably turn into a deathmatch

    Who's going to police them when they are 35 million miles away..

    the martians might arrest and deport them all straight back to their penal colony which we call earth...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    Yeragh it wouldn't be too bad. Sure theres skype & RTE player. Plus you could bring a load of Taytos and rashers with ya. Lack of daecent Irish pubs might be a problem though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭MonaPizza


    It is never going to happen.

    For starters how long does it take to get to Mars? A year maybe? Sending 3 guys to the Moon takes about a day or two, a day farting around on the surface and a day or two to get back. So that 5 x 3 = 15 days worth of food .... probably 45 to 50 bags of slop for the guys to eat. Let's say 100 bags plus another 100 bags of water. That can easily fit in a lunar module. So 200 bags of food rations for a 3 man week long (-ish) journey.

    4 people to Mars is going to need, what, about 300 x 52 = 15,600 bags just to get there. What size vessel will you need to lug that amount along? Remember there's no re-supplying like the International Space Station after take off. And that's just to get there. I assume they plan on eating once they get to Mars. What the hell are they going to eat and drink once there? A litre of water weighs 1 kilo. So 4 people are going to need one or two tons of water to sustain them on the trip. You can go a week without a shower (to the Moon). A year to Mars.....you're going to need to wash. With what?
    Do they plan on recycling piss back into drinking water? Is that even possible?

    Assuming they intend to produce food to live on while they're there, how? There will be no meat to eat at all. You can't grow a chicken or a fish in some greenhouse so you will have to grow everything that will provide protein, carbohydrates and fat.....green vegetables, beans, rices, lentils, nuts, fruit etc. So while you're setting up your Croke Park sized green house and waiting a year for this shit to grow you're going to need another 20 or 30 thousands bags of slop and water to keep you going. Then there's the amount of water the plants are going to need.....probably MILLIONS of litres. Where's that going to come from? Are they going to have one guy trek to the polar cap with a billy-can everday? Plants need sunlight too, don't they?
    Even if the plan is to just get them there and then have them live on whatever supplies they bring with them for a few months until they all die of starvation, that's still a lot of crap to lug along.

    It's bollocks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    He'd be ridden to death in students union bars all over the world if he got back. Can you imagine?

    "Peru? I spent the summer doing surface topology research on Phobos"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Mars bars and baby wipes :confused: ^^^^


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    MonaPizza wrote: »
    It is never going to happen.

    For starters how long does it take to get to Mars? A year maybe? Sending 3 guys to the Moon takes about a day or two, a day farting around on the surface and a day or two to get back. So that 5 x 3 = 15 days worth of food .... probably 45 to 50 bags of slop for the guys to eat. Let's say 100 bags plus another 100 bags of water. That can easily fit in a lunar module. So 200 bags of food rations for a 3 man week long (-ish) journey.

    4 people to Mars is going to need, what, about 300 x 52 = 15,600 bags just to get there. What size vessel will you need to lug that amount along? Remember there's no re-supplying like the International Space Station after take off. And that's just to get there. I assume they plan on eating once they get to Mars. What the hell are they going to eat and drink once there? A litre of water weighs 1 kilo. So 4 people are going to need one or two tons of water to sustain them on the trip. You can go a week without a shower (to the Moon). A year to Mars.....you're going to need to wash. With what?
    Do they plan on recycling piss back into drinking water? Is that even possible?

    Assuming they intend to produce food to live on while they're there, how? There will be no meat to eat at all. You can't grow a chicken or a fish in some greenhouse so you will have to grow everything that will provide protein, carbohydrates and fat.....green vegetables, beans, rices, lentils, nuts, fruit etc. So while you're setting up your Croke Park sized green house and waiting a year for this shit to grow you're going to need another 20 or 30 thousands bags of slop and water to keep you going. Then there's the amount of water the plants are going to need.....probably MILLIONS of litres. Where's that going to come from? Are they going to have one guy trek to the polar cap with a billy-can everday? Plants need sunlight too, don't they?
    Even if the plan is to just get them there and then have them live on whatever supplies they bring with them for a few months until they all die of starvation, that's still a lot of crap to lug along.

    It's bollocks

    much like your research and calculations


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Plazaman wrote: »
    No matter how much profiling and psychological screening goes on beforehand, there's alway the danger that 7 hours after blasting off, one fúcker will turn around and say "I didn't tell them this on earth but I love sucking peoples ears where they're asleep".

    Hey guys, I forgot to bring any of my anti compulsive masturbation disorder pills and the last one I took was 23 hours ago, they usually wear off after 24 hours,

    sowey, :o.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 420 ✭✭Paulie Gualtieri


    If you were unemployed would they take you off the live register and announce how unemployment has fallen? :D

    Would go if ... Endless supply of kebabs, 5 or 6 attractive womens , a pool table , a ps4 . had every movie ever made. And stuff along those lines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    Whatever happened to our other 'space cadets'....Dr Bill and the lad with the Psychic hotline?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Why can't the crew come back? It's a 210 day flight not like light years away. Go off to Mars, have a laugh for 5 years, come back, write a book and spend the rest of your life sitting rocking in restaurants drooling and mumbling "Mars was never this busy, it wasn't like this in Mars".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Plazaman wrote: »
    Why can't the crew come back? It's a 210 day flight not like light years away. Go off to Mars, have a laugh for 5 years, come back, write a book and spend the rest of your life sitting rocking in restaurants drooling and mumbling "Mars was never this busy, it wasn't like this in Mars".

    There's no runway on Mars


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    What one thing from earth, would you miss that you won't find on mars?

    Mars bars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    MonaPizza wrote: »
    It is never going to happen....

    ...It's bollocks


    A lot of the technology we take for granted nowadays would have seemed far fetched if not outright impossible not all that long ago, yet here it is.

    Humans walking on Mars will probably happen one day, whether it be 2025 or not. Cost is likely to be more of a stumbling block than any technological issues.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 890 ✭✭✭CrinkElite


    It's all possible and ultimately necessary.

    Sooner or later we're going to have to accept the fact that this type of thing is our collective destiny.

    Evolution baby!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭dpofloinn


    Life is hard enough on Earth never mind trying to start from scratch on Mars .I dont think id miss much,but sure once they get the post office set up there I could ask the mammy to post me tea bags and tayto's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,506 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    MonaPizza wrote: »
    Do they plan on recycling piss back into drinking water? Is that even possible?
    I may be wrong, but I think they do this on the International Space Station.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    I like the idea of it. My cosmo-heroine Valentina Tereshkova, first woman in space, now 76, has said she'd like to go. Perfect retirement. I probably wouldn't make the cut myself, but I want it to happen so I can wonder at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭MonaPizza


    much like your research and calculations

    OK Spock, you tell me how much water a human needs each day? How much do they need to bring? for 4 of them?
    You've seen the effort needed to bounce a ball onto Mars, crack it open and and have a robotic vehicle the size of a coffee table roll out. I'd love to see your calculations on how to get a fully operational ground lab, living quarters, plant growing facilities, water and oxygen generation modules, not to mention a few heavy duty rovers digging the soild up and depositing it into the extraction units, up and running in 10 years in ADVANCE of the first crew arriving.
    I read on their mission statement that they will get water from the soil. And that 50 litres would be available per person per day. That's a lot of soil to be heated, water evaporated and condensed to produce 200 litres. Are they even sure that there IS viable amounts of water in the soil?
    Then there's the notion of extracting oxygen from water in order to breath. Certainly possible but takes a lot of energy.

    It's possible to recycle the water and ration or cut down in the event of anything going wrong but the oxygen generation kit breaks down and they're all dead in an hour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭MonaPizza


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    A lot of the technology we take for granted nowadays would have seemed far fetched if not outright impossible not all that long ago, yet here it is.

    Humans walking on Mars will probably happen one day, whether it be 2025 or not. Cost is likely to be more of a stumbling block than any technological issues.

    I agree with you aidan. I'm an engineer myself. The technology is there to get to mars as has been proven. The technology exists to derive energy and power from solar radiation. It's all possible.
    The weak link is the human body (and mind). This places serious constraints on the mission.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    born2bwild wrote: »
    Maybe it's Brendan O'Carroll?

    F*cking hope so, can he take all the scripts to that muck Mrs Brown Boys too ?


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