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Irish man shortlisted for Mars mission. (one way ticket only)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    Yeragh it wouldn't be too bad. Sure theres skype & RTE player. Plus you could bring a load of Taytos and rashers with ya. Lack of daecent Irish pubs might be a problem though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭MonaPizza


    It is never going to happen.

    For starters how long does it take to get to Mars? A year maybe? Sending 3 guys to the Moon takes about a day or two, a day farting around on the surface and a day or two to get back. So that 5 x 3 = 15 days worth of food .... probably 45 to 50 bags of slop for the guys to eat. Let's say 100 bags plus another 100 bags of water. That can easily fit in a lunar module. So 200 bags of food rations for a 3 man week long (-ish) journey.

    4 people to Mars is going to need, what, about 300 x 52 = 15,600 bags just to get there. What size vessel will you need to lug that amount along? Remember there's no re-supplying like the International Space Station after take off. And that's just to get there. I assume they plan on eating once they get to Mars. What the hell are they going to eat and drink once there? A litre of water weighs 1 kilo. So 4 people are going to need one or two tons of water to sustain them on the trip. You can go a week without a shower (to the Moon). A year to Mars.....you're going to need to wash. With what?
    Do they plan on recycling piss back into drinking water? Is that even possible?

    Assuming they intend to produce food to live on while they're there, how? There will be no meat to eat at all. You can't grow a chicken or a fish in some greenhouse so you will have to grow everything that will provide protein, carbohydrates and fat.....green vegetables, beans, rices, lentils, nuts, fruit etc. So while you're setting up your Croke Park sized green house and waiting a year for this shit to grow you're going to need another 20 or 30 thousands bags of slop and water to keep you going. Then there's the amount of water the plants are going to need.....probably MILLIONS of litres. Where's that going to come from? Are they going to have one guy trek to the polar cap with a billy-can everday? Plants need sunlight too, don't they?
    Even if the plan is to just get them there and then have them live on whatever supplies they bring with them for a few months until they all die of starvation, that's still a lot of crap to lug along.

    It's bollocks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    He'd be ridden to death in students union bars all over the world if he got back. Can you imagine?

    "Peru? I spent the summer doing surface topology research on Phobos"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Mars bars and baby wipes :confused: ^^^^


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    MonaPizza wrote: »
    It is never going to happen.

    For starters how long does it take to get to Mars? A year maybe? Sending 3 guys to the Moon takes about a day or two, a day farting around on the surface and a day or two to get back. So that 5 x 3 = 15 days worth of food .... probably 45 to 50 bags of slop for the guys to eat. Let's say 100 bags plus another 100 bags of water. That can easily fit in a lunar module. So 200 bags of food rations for a 3 man week long (-ish) journey.

    4 people to Mars is going to need, what, about 300 x 52 = 15,600 bags just to get there. What size vessel will you need to lug that amount along? Remember there's no re-supplying like the International Space Station after take off. And that's just to get there. I assume they plan on eating once they get to Mars. What the hell are they going to eat and drink once there? A litre of water weighs 1 kilo. So 4 people are going to need one or two tons of water to sustain them on the trip. You can go a week without a shower (to the Moon). A year to Mars.....you're going to need to wash. With what?
    Do they plan on recycling piss back into drinking water? Is that even possible?

    Assuming they intend to produce food to live on while they're there, how? There will be no meat to eat at all. You can't grow a chicken or a fish in some greenhouse so you will have to grow everything that will provide protein, carbohydrates and fat.....green vegetables, beans, rices, lentils, nuts, fruit etc. So while you're setting up your Croke Park sized green house and waiting a year for this shit to grow you're going to need another 20 or 30 thousands bags of slop and water to keep you going. Then there's the amount of water the plants are going to need.....probably MILLIONS of litres. Where's that going to come from? Are they going to have one guy trek to the polar cap with a billy-can everday? Plants need sunlight too, don't they?
    Even if the plan is to just get them there and then have them live on whatever supplies they bring with them for a few months until they all die of starvation, that's still a lot of crap to lug along.

    It's bollocks

    much like your research and calculations


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Plazaman wrote: »
    No matter how much profiling and psychological screening goes on beforehand, there's alway the danger that 7 hours after blasting off, one fúcker will turn around and say "I didn't tell them this on earth but I love sucking peoples ears where they're asleep".

    Hey guys, I forgot to bring any of my anti compulsive masturbation disorder pills and the last one I took was 23 hours ago, they usually wear off after 24 hours,

    sowey, :o.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 420 ✭✭Paulie Gualtieri


    If you were unemployed would they take you off the live register and announce how unemployment has fallen? :D

    Would go if ... Endless supply of kebabs, 5 or 6 attractive womens , a pool table , a ps4 . had every movie ever made. And stuff along those lines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    Whatever happened to our other 'space cadets'....Dr Bill and the lad with the Psychic hotline?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Why can't the crew come back? It's a 210 day flight not like light years away. Go off to Mars, have a laugh for 5 years, come back, write a book and spend the rest of your life sitting rocking in restaurants drooling and mumbling "Mars was never this busy, it wasn't like this in Mars".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Plazaman wrote: »
    Why can't the crew come back? It's a 210 day flight not like light years away. Go off to Mars, have a laugh for 5 years, come back, write a book and spend the rest of your life sitting rocking in restaurants drooling and mumbling "Mars was never this busy, it wasn't like this in Mars".

    There's no runway on Mars


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    What one thing from earth, would you miss that you won't find on mars?

    Mars bars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    MonaPizza wrote: »
    It is never going to happen....

    ...It's bollocks


    A lot of the technology we take for granted nowadays would have seemed far fetched if not outright impossible not all that long ago, yet here it is.

    Humans walking on Mars will probably happen one day, whether it be 2025 or not. Cost is likely to be more of a stumbling block than any technological issues.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 890 ✭✭✭CrinkElite


    It's all possible and ultimately necessary.

    Sooner or later we're going to have to accept the fact that this type of thing is our collective destiny.

    Evolution baby!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭dpofloinn


    Life is hard enough on Earth never mind trying to start from scratch on Mars .I dont think id miss much,but sure once they get the post office set up there I could ask the mammy to post me tea bags and tayto's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,557 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    MonaPizza wrote: »
    Do they plan on recycling piss back into drinking water? Is that even possible?
    I may be wrong, but I think they do this on the International Space Station.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    I like the idea of it. My cosmo-heroine Valentina Tereshkova, first woman in space, now 76, has said she'd like to go. Perfect retirement. I probably wouldn't make the cut myself, but I want it to happen so I can wonder at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭MonaPizza


    much like your research and calculations

    OK Spock, you tell me how much water a human needs each day? How much do they need to bring? for 4 of them?
    You've seen the effort needed to bounce a ball onto Mars, crack it open and and have a robotic vehicle the size of a coffee table roll out. I'd love to see your calculations on how to get a fully operational ground lab, living quarters, plant growing facilities, water and oxygen generation modules, not to mention a few heavy duty rovers digging the soild up and depositing it into the extraction units, up and running in 10 years in ADVANCE of the first crew arriving.
    I read on their mission statement that they will get water from the soil. And that 50 litres would be available per person per day. That's a lot of soil to be heated, water evaporated and condensed to produce 200 litres. Are they even sure that there IS viable amounts of water in the soil?
    Then there's the notion of extracting oxygen from water in order to breath. Certainly possible but takes a lot of energy.

    It's possible to recycle the water and ration or cut down in the event of anything going wrong but the oxygen generation kit breaks down and they're all dead in an hour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭MonaPizza


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    A lot of the technology we take for granted nowadays would have seemed far fetched if not outright impossible not all that long ago, yet here it is.

    Humans walking on Mars will probably happen one day, whether it be 2025 or not. Cost is likely to be more of a stumbling block than any technological issues.

    I agree with you aidan. I'm an engineer myself. The technology is there to get to mars as has been proven. The technology exists to derive energy and power from solar radiation. It's all possible.
    The weak link is the human body (and mind). This places serious constraints on the mission.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    born2bwild wrote: »
    Maybe it's Brendan O'Carroll?

    F*cking hope so, can he take all the scripts to that muck Mrs Brown Boys too ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    MonaPizza wrote: »
    OK Spock, you tell me how much water a human needs each day? How much do they need to bring? for 4 of them?
    You've seen the effort needed to bounce a ball onto Mars, crack it open and and have a robotic vehicle the size of a coffee table roll out. I'd love to see your calculations on how to get a fully operational ground lab, living quarters, plant growing facilities, water and oxygen generation modules, not to mention a few heavy duty rovers digging the soild up and depositing it into the extraction units, up and running in 10 years in ADVANCE of the first crew arriving.
    I read on their mission statement that they will get water from the soil. And that 50 litres would be available per person per day. That's a lot of soil to be heated, water evaporated and condensed to produce 200 litres. Are they even sure that there IS viable amounts of water in the soil?
    Then there's the notion of extracting oxygen from water in order to breath. Certainly possible but takes a lot of energy.

    It's possible to recycle the water and ration or cut down in the event of anything going wrong but the oxygen generation kit breaks down and they're all dead in an hour.

    I suggest you direct those questions to Mars one, NASA, ESA or the many other governmental and private teams who are working on human exploration of Space and other planets. (maybe don't ask how many bags of sandwiches it will take to get through the mission)

    I have no Idea if this Mars one project will happen on time or at all. but humans will get there eventually.

    What i do know is; if everybody thought like you, we would all still be swinging in the trees.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭ikarie


    Shortlisted for a 2025 space mission! The people that will actually be chosen for that misson are probably still in secondary school that this moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    MonaPizza wrote: »
    I read on their mission statement that they will get water from the soil. And that 50 litres would be available per person per day.

    Apparently Phil Hogan has claimed jurisdiction over Mars and is planning on implementing an appropriate number of taxable measures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭6541


    They would never let Irish on this trip, sure he would be pissed up and fighting with everybody whilst munching on potatoes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    Hope its dentists and doctors they are sending up, imagine getting a tooth ache and you stuck on Mars.

    Its bad enough waiting for an appointment here.

    They'd have to pull each others teeth up there.

    Weird that thats the thing I thought first when reading this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    Mr Freeze wrote: »
    Hope its dentists and doctors they are sending up, imagine getting a tooth ache and you stuck on Mars.

    Its bad enough waiting for an appointment here.

    They'd have to pull each others teeth up there.

    Weird that thats the thing I thought first when reading this.

    or they could have all their teeth pulled on earth before takeoff and only eat through straws up there...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 890 ✭✭✭CrinkElite


    the_monkey wrote: »
    F*cking hope so, can he take all the scripts to that muck Mrs Brown Boys too ?

    The only problem with that is we'd be nuked out of existence with extreme prejudice should intelligent life reach mars before earth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    6541 wrote: »
    They would never let Irish on this trip, sure he would be pissed up and fighting with everybody whilst munching on potatoes...

    yawn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    You would want to be crazy to go up there with no way to return :p

    Yeah I know, it would be a great experience to see mars, but to spend the rest of your days there? Only talking to 3 other people, missing out on the little things in life? ... Actually missing out on pretty much everything in life!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    You would want to be crazy to go up there with no way to return :p

    Yeah I know, it would be a great experience to see mars, but to spend the rest of your days there? Only talking to 3 other people, missing out on the little things in life? ... Actually missing out on pretty much everything in life!

    Is this why B.A. hates flying?


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