Sexism ?

TeddyTedson

Why do Women with power get such a hard time? Reading some stuff about Thatcher earlier and some of the comments are so harsh towards it.
I mean I know she was pure evil in it's purest form and she is burning in hell right now but Angela seems to get the same treatment. She gets an awful amount of undeserved abuse.
I've seen it in work though too, a horrible attitude by men and even some women to anyone woman who becomes their superior.
Women tend to achieve less crime if you look at the stats but people seem to love slagging any woman who achieves success.
Even that poor Canadian girl Liah got a hard time on boards and another poster who's name I won't mention. I used to have a fromspring account and got awful abuse on there.
Do other people notice this attitude that seems to be acceptable?
Is it more common in Ireland than other parts of the world such as France?

Mr. Incognito

Everyone in power gets a hard time.

Women are just more sensitive to it

HA

Aidric

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I mean I know she was pure evil in it's purest form

Nonsense.

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Angela seems to get the same treatment. She gets an awful amount of undeserved abuse.

More nonsense.

wazky

Aidric wrote: »

Nonsense.



More nonsense.

Nonsense

TeddyTedson

Aidric wrote: »

Nonsense.



More nonsense.

You don't think Thatcher was evil :eek:
She's a bitch dude

holystungun9

I took a porn break for this sh1t? Laters.

Nodin

TeddyTedson wrote: »

You don't think Thatcher was evil :eek:
She's a bitch dude

Evil, wrong, and vile. Rather too extreme an example for you to use.

Hande hoche!

holystungun9 wrote: »

I took a porn break for this sh1t? Laters.

Studying sexism in the adult film industry?

The Backwards Man

Why don't we have a thread about sexyism? I could contribute to that.

Aidric

TeddyTedson wrote: »

You don't think Thatcher was evil :eek:
She's a bitch dude

Hitler was evil. Radovan Karadzic was evil.

Get some perspective.

TeddyTedson

Nodin wrote: »

Evil, wrong, and vile. Rather too extreme an example for you to use.

She sunk the Belgrano and all those poor Argentinians were killed
She most definitely was Evil

wazky

Aidric wrote: »

Hitler was evil. Radovan Karadzic was evil.

Get some perspective.

Godwin-ned in 10 posts.

Impressive.

jantheman91

Aidric wrote: »

Nonsense.



More nonsense.

Not sure if you're serious....

She was the definition of evil itself.

LETHAL LADY

I am a woman and watching Angela Merkel go bananas when Germany scored a goal against Greece in Euro 2012 pissed me off, not because she is a woman but considering events as the time it was ill advised for a political figure. Angela did herself no favours that night.

Sir Osis of Liver.

Sexyism

TeddyTedson

Well I'm not trying to say Hitler wasn't bad but I think people over exaggerate about him. He was evil too before people accuse me of being a Hitler fan
I don't like people who kill people. Period.

Jester252

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Studying sexism in the adult film industry?

Well a lass on her back get paid more than the guy.

biko

Because men can be bitches too.

TeddyTedson

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

I am a woman and watching Angela Merkel go bananas when Germany scored a goal against Greece in Euro 2012 pissed me off, not because she is a woman but considering events as the time it was ill advised for a political figure. Angela did herself no favours that night.

Well that's more issues for yourself there to work out. There is nothing wrong with her being happy to see Germany win. Germans are probably the best people on the planet (I know Japanese are there too). People joke about this, but we all know that Germans are incredible amazing people.

LETHAL LADY

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Well that's more issues for yourself there to work out. There is nothing wrong with her being happy to see Germany win. Germans are probably the best people on the planet (I know Japanese are there too). People joke about this, but we all know that Germans are incredible amazing people.

Not what I meant at all Teddy.

Czarcasm

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Why do Women with power get such a hard time? Reading some stuff about Thatcher earlier and some of the comments are so harsh towards it.
I mean I know she was pure evil in it's purest form and she is burning in hell right now

Surely you jest there Ted?

Terrible example aside anyway, anyone who is assertive or dominant and doesn't bend easily to the will of other people is always going to have their critics. I wouldn't call it sexism as it applies equally to men.

Napper Hawkins

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Germans are probably the best people on the planet (I know Japanese are there too). People joke about this, but we all know that Germans are incredible amazing people.

How so?

Daqster

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Reading some stuff about Thatcher earlier and some of the comments are so harsh towards it.

Why'd you call her it?

Jaysus that's harsh.


She's looking she didn't get assassinated in the 80s.

IRA missed her by mere feet in Brighton.

Morrisey had a nice quote about her, can't remember it off hand.

TeddyTedson

Daqster wrote: »

Why'd you call her it?

Jaysus that's harsh.


She's looking she didn't get assassinated in the 80s.

IRA missed her by mere feet in Brighton.

Morrisey had a nice quote about her, can't remember it off hand.

Call her what?


I can't believe so many people are denying that she was Evil!!
The definition of Evil is, "profoundly immoral and wicked."
That's Thatcher!!!

TeddyTedson

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I mean I know she was pure evil in it's purest form and she is burning in hell right now

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Well I'm not trying to say Hitler wasn't bad but I think people over exaggerate about him.

So, to sum up, Margaret Thatcher was evil in it's purest form, and while Hitler was a bad man, people exaggerate about the extent.


Why yes, I think you're right. Women are judged more harshly!

TeddyTedson

Candie wrote: »

So, to sum up, Margaret Thatcher was evil in it's purest form, and while Hitler was a bad man, people exaggerate about the extent.


Why yes, I think you're right. Women are judged more harshly!

You're not taking what I'm saying with the intent and you know that!!
Hitler, was an elected man you need to remember!
If it wasn't for Hitler, there is a very real chance I wouldn't be alive today. That's a fact. He achieved great things for medical science. This is a bloody fact that people try not to accept. It's factual!

Also, I was the OP, I'm defending women here remember. Protecting them if you will!

WellThen?

Go to bed Teddy, it's late.

TeddyTedson

WellThen? wrote: »

Go to bed Teddy, it's late.

Why does everyone keep saying that to me

Daqster

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Also, I was the OP, I'm defending women here remember. Protecting them if you will!

Isn't it kinda you know, sexist to say that women need protecting Teddy?

Karl Stein

The dislike of Thatcher has little to do with her gender.

TeddyTedson

TeddyTedson wrote: »

You're not taking what I'm saying with the intent and you know that!!
Hitler, was an elected man you need to remember!
If it wasn't for Hitler, there is a very real chance I wouldn't be alive today. That's a fact. He achieved great things for medical science. This is a bloody fact that people try not to accept. It's factual!

Also, I was the OP, I'm defending women here remember. Protecting them if you will!

Eh, Thatcher was elected...Hitler was appointed chancellor by Hinderburg and used the apparent communist attack on the Reichstag to gain power.

As for the rest, the contribution of the Nazis to medical science is considered exaggerated and it has to be considered that any gains garnered by murder and torture have the result of sending civilisation into reverse, not forwards.

An insight into the human bodies response to hypothermia (for example) must be considered against the backdrop of freezing human beings to death to gain it. It's a net no-no of a result.

These are not 'great things'.

AerynSun

Aidric wrote: »

Nonsense.

More nonsense.

wazky wrote: »

Nonsense

Nonsense, poopypants!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39fMl8qjI1k

Guy:Incognito

TeddyTedson wrote: »

You're not taking what I'm saying with the intent and you know that!!
Hitler, was an elected man you need to remember!
If it wasn't for Hitler, there is a very real chance I wouldn't be alive today. That's a fact. He achieved great things for medical science. This is a bloody fact that people try not to accept. It's factual!

Also, I was the OP, I'm defending women here remember. Protecting them if you will!

Whereas Thatcher seized power in a brutal military coup and slaughtered all her opponents?

As for your Belgrano comment. Similar would probably cover most leaders of countries during wars. Presumably Obama is evil? Churchill? Washington? Kennedy? Roosevelt?

AerynSun

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

As for your Belgrano comment. Similar would probably cover most leaders of countries during wars. Presumably Obama is evil? Churchill? Washington? Kennedy? Roosevelt?

Have heard conservative anti-abortionists say that Nelson Mandela was pure evil because he allowed legislation in South Africa that legalised abortion on demand. Evil, evil Nelson, baby killer. Hrm. :rolleyes:

Bipolar Joe

You hear about women in power getting grief because they moan and whinge about it. You don't hear about men in power getting grief because they get on with shit, and if you do hear about it, the response is "So? He's a bastard."

And that's my sexist comment for the day.

TeddyTedson

Why do we always have to talk about Hitler and natzis all the time.
I am not saying Hitler was anything but Evil so why keep bringing him up!
It doesn't matter who was more evil, Thatcher or Hitler, but the point is that they were both bad people who were responsible for the death of many people.
Thatcher was an evil bitch and lets leave it at that.

Muise...

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I used to have a fromspring account and got awful abuse on there.

Are you actually a lady, Ted? I won't judge you any differently if you are...

Pat Mustard

TeddyTedson wrote: »

If it wasn't for Hitler, there is a very real chance I wouldn't be alive today.

A young Adolf took a bullet for Urgrossvater Tedsohn at the Somme? :pac:

TeddyTedson

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Why do we always have to talk about Hitler and natzis all the time.
I am not saying Hitler was anything but Evil so why keep bringing him up!
It doesn't matter who was more evil, Thatcher or Hitler, but the point is that they were both bad people who were responsible for the death of many people.
Thatcher was an evil bitch and lets leave it at that.

When you make completely asinine assertions with only a very casual acquaintanceship with the facts, you can expect comments.

TeddyTedson

Muise... wrote: »

Are you actually a lady, Ted? I won't judge you any differently if you are...

I'm a man silly!! :P

Czarcasm

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Why do we always have to talk about Hitler and natzis all the time.
I am not saying Hitler was anything but Evil so why keep bringing him up!
It doesn't matter who was more evil, Thatcher or Hitler, but the point is that they were both bad people who were responsible for the death of many people.
Thatcher was an evil bitch and lets leave it at that.

I'd tell you to build a bridge Ted, but you're probably living under one already.

Either way, this thread was a piss poor attempt from the start.

TeddyTedson

Daqster wrote: »

Isn't it kinda you know, sexist to say that women need protecting Teddy?

It's not if they are being attacked on an issue which they are.
Women are treated second to men in this country in my opinion.

Muise...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoOUZlmvfns

TeddyTedson

Czarcasm wrote: »

I'd tell you to build a bridge Ted, but you're probably living under one already.

Either way, this thread was a piss poor attempt from the start.

So you're calling me a troll now are you?
I've tried to move away from this Hitler nonsense from the beginning!
People have been trying to pick holes in my posts throughout this thread while changing what I've actually said.
I have called both Hitler and Thatcher Evil. Now what is the problem with that for the love of god!?

Pat Mustard

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I have called both Hitler and Thatcher Evil. Now what is the problem with that for the love of god!?

Hitler may not have been able to twirl his moustache, but at least it showed up in photos. Maggie is clearly in the ha'penny place there.

Bipolar Joe

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I have called both Hitler and Thatcher Evil. Now what is the problem with that for the love of god!?

TeddyTedson

I wish people wouldn't have twisted my words so much there. I've been made to look like some sort of Hitler supporter when that couldn't be any further from the truth.
I've got Jewish people I'd be friendly with. They're not friends so there's no point in me calling them that but they seem nice enough.
I don't like anyone to be killed. I don't even think rapists should face the death penalty. Let them think about what they've done for the rest of their lives and suffer in hell! I know more than most about how dangerous your own mind can be to you. It can be mentally disabling.
My old maths teacher often used to say to me that he wasn't sure if I was a genius or an idiot because I'd often get lost in my head. For example I'd often start a sentence and not even be aware that I've suddenly stopped talking.
My friends find it hilarious when I do it however:P.
Hmmm, even no I don't fully know what my point was here or how we ended up on this....

Bipolar Joe

Your point was you love Hitler, but hate Thatcher because she's a woman.

TeddyTedson

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Your point was you love Hitler, but hate Thatcher because she's a woman.

No it's not because she's a woman it's about her actions. She was a horrible evil person in my book and she should never have been in that position of power.
Blowing up those poor people on the boat. Human life meant nothing to that witch!

RDM_83 again

Candie wrote: »

Eh, Thatcher was elected...Hitler was appointed chancellor by Hinderburg and used the apparent communist attack on the Reichstag to gain power.

As for the rest, the contribution of the Nazis to medical science is considered exaggerated and it has to be considered that any gains garnered by murder and torture have the result of sending civilisation into reverse, not forwards.

An insight into the human bodies response to hypothermia (for example) must be considered against the backdrop of freezing human beings to death to gain it. It's a net no-no of a result.

These are not 'great things'.

As a macabre and depressing aside a lot of the Nazi experiments were actually pretty useless science.

The Japanese however at places like Unit 731 carried out just as horrifying stuff but they produced useful data, and so a lot of those involved including the leaders got away with it.

I suppose the moral of the story is if your going to be utterly amoral at least produce results.

average hero

I think that women have a tough time of it with regards to the workplace because if they act quite feminine they 'may' be considered too weak for high powered jobs and if they act very strict they are called 'bitchy'. Women can have it tough from that point of view. I think that Thatcher and Merkel fall into this problem - they kind of can't show too much affection when they're representing their countries alongside the likes of Putin et al.

Two women managers I worked under took that whole 'strict' approach to the nth degree. It felt forced and alienated a large section of the business team at a time when the company was trying to encourage cohesiveness. There was a lady manager who I worked under in the same company and she was the epitome of a great manager. Tough and strict and a great business mind but up for banter too and a great people person.

I was recently talking to a very enlightened feminist who was telling me that she DETESTED the idea of quotas for women on the boards of companies as it further weakened women's position as if they got a job on a board they would be seen as serving a quota instead of getting there by merit. We agreed that anyone, male or female should get any position they qualify for on merit.