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Former Labour Party chairman Colm Keaveney to join Fianna Fáil

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  • 03-12-2013 12:04pm
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    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1203/490600-colm-keaveney-fianna-fail/
    Fianna Fáil has confirmed that Galway East TD Colm Keaveney has applied to join the party.
    He will be introduced to TDs and Senators at a meeting of the parliamentary party later today.
    Mr Keaveney lost the Labour whip in 2012 when he voted against Budget cuts.
    https://twitter.com/Colm_Keaveney
    Forsitan et nostrum nomen miscebitur istis - Audentis Fortuna iuvat! (h/t Ovid & Virgil)
    You might also be mingled with those of us the name of the - Fortune favors the brave! (h / t Horace and Virgil)
    Is this a visionary move by Keaveney to set himself up as a leader in a resurgent FF?

    I don't see him being a good fit with the current leadership of Micheál Martin or someone like Éamon Ó Cuív.

    Google returns a rather unfortunate image when you search his name:
    keaveny-300x179.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    "Fianna Fáil is constantly referenced in the (Mahon) report, which bears testimony to the corrosive and destructive nature of Irish politics as a consequence of the effect that Fianna Fail has had on Irish politics down through the years. This rampant corruption of many of Fianna Fáil’s members and public representatives is part of the philosophy of tolerance that existed within that party."

    The words of Colm Keaveney. 12 June 2012

    Good luck with the new move Colm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    What a pro..........


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Typical careerist nonsense and indicative of much of what's wrong with Irish politics. I don't have much time for Russell Brand, but he was right when he pointed out that an entire generation has become disillusioned with politics due to it being generally presided over by a self-serving political class. Stuff like this just reinforces that for most people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Looks like a rat deserting one sinking ship by climbing aboard a toxic wreck!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    Is his wife still getting 52,000 as his assistant ?

    Good man , better get your FF moustache a twitching.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Champagne socialist of the worst type. Tweeting from the golf course on a Tuesday from his iPhone and a week later the social welfare cuts debacle. You can't have it every way Colm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    The words "frying pan & fire " spring to mind. Spring.....no, not going there again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭renegademaster


    there really needs to be riots across the country when fianna fail get back into power, "democratically" elected or not!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭CFlat


    In every walk of life people move jobs. Bitch about the opposition one day until the opposition offers them better terms, conditions etc and jump ship. I've no problem with that.

    What scares the bejaysus out of me is is he joining FF cause he thinks they are going to be back in power at the next GE? Surely we have longer memories than that? If that does happen, I'm handing in my Irish Citizenship and posting my vote back to the County Council.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,466 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    This should come as no surprise to anyone. Labour party members have been abandoning the party to join Fianna Fáil in recent months. It was only a matter of time before a high profile figure such as Colm joined Fianna Fáil.

    I suspect he may not be the last either, it would not surprise me if we see a string of these announcements in the coming months.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    "It is Fianna Fail that has inflicted immense damage on our economy and on our public finances – damage that may take years to repair – and it is time for them to go. " — Colm Keaveney, 2010.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    This should come as no surprise to anyone. Labour party members have been abandoning the party to join Fianna Fáil in recent months. It was only a matter of time before a high profile figure such as Colm joined Fianna Fáil.

    I suspect he may not be the last either, it would not surprise me if we see a string of these announcements in the coming months.

    How is your party taking the news ?

    Willie didn't seem too happy. Must have been the " FF moustache twitching " comment Keaveney made recently.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    CFlat wrote: »
    In every walk of life people move jobs. Bitch about the opposition one day until the opposition offers them better terms, conditions etc and jump ship. I've no problem with that.

    People should be in politics because they want to serve society, not serve themselves with "better terms and conditions." Keaveney's move shows a complete lack of political principle, and a naked self-interest for careerism as opposed to any genuine wish to impact Irish politics in any meaningful sense. In other words, when someone says "they're all the same" in regards to Irish politicians, they aren't far off the mark.

    The problem lies in the fact that Irish people are completely disempowered when it comes to politics; in effect we're told that the only participation we should have is to tick a box next to some cardboard-cut-out eejit every five years. As a result, we get supposedly national politicians who only care about localism and saving their own seat as opposed to anything resembling national politics. Say what you want about Joe Higgins or even the likes of McDowell; at least they articulated and represented a certain vision for Ireland and how it should be run.

    Keaveney on the other hand, represents the majority of politicians who are simply up to their necks in gombeenism.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,466 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    raymon wrote: »
    How is your party taking the news ?

    Willie didn't seem too happy. Must have been the " FF moustache twitching " comment Keaveney made recently.

    I'm not too sure really, I suspect that most members will be welcoming.
    FTA69 wrote: »

    Keaveney on the other hand, represents the majority of politicians who are simply up to their necks in gombeenism.

    It will be interesting to see how it all plays out for Colm. People were singing his praises when he left the Labour party!


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,114 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    CFlat wrote: »
    In every walk of life people move jobs. Bitch about the opposition one day until the opposition offers them better terms, conditions etc and jump ship. I've no problem with that.

    What scares the bejaysus out of me is is he joining FF cause he thinks they are going to be back in power at the next GE?

    Well first and foremost it's about keeping his seat and to that end it's probably a shrewd move. Not yet clear if Miheal Kitt is going to run in Galway East but even if he does Keaveney is in with a decent shout of taking a seat for the party, whereas he'd have virtually none running as an independent or for some 'new left' party.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    It will be interesting to see how it all plays out for Colm. People were singing his praises when he left the Labour party!

    Hopefully he'll end up out of politics where he belongs. He clearly hasn't an ounce of political principle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭Knob Longman


    A turncoat, Something very smarmy about him, Reminds me of Michael McGrath.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Well first and foremost it's about keeping his seat and to that end it's probably a shrewd move. Not yet clear if Miheal Kitt is going to run in Galway East but even if he does Keaveney is in with a decent shout of taking a seat for the party, whereas he'd have virtually none running as an independent or for some 'new left' party.
    Independent says Keaveney will run in the new Roscommon-Galway constituency
    Mr Keaveney will be the Fianna Fáil candidate in the next general election in the newly conference Galway East-Roscommon South constituency.

    This constituency consists of all Co Roscommon and only 35 EDs from the old Galway East. Roscommon independents Denis Naughten and Ming Flanagan will hold their seats. The third will almost definitely go to a candidate from north Roscommon, probably Frank Feighan of Fine Gael, as the hospital closure is not a big issue in that area.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 323 ✭✭hungry hippo 4


    He will still get plenty of votes wait and see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    A couple of quotes from him about FF that are not pretty, I know it's the job of a politician to u-turn but what way would he answer the impending questions? 'I've looked at the facts again and realise I was mistaken in claimin FF were ****. They made mistakes but they are the right party to take us forward going forward'?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,964 ✭✭✭For Reals


    Its sad for everyone. I mean the man lambasted Fianna Fail, yet due to the fact that he can possibly bring a lot of votes the party HQ are more than happy to have him. If I were a FF member I'd in the least be a little pissed. Where is the party ideology or god forbid, self respect?
    He is simply making the move before the almost certain rise of Fianna Fail back to power, as is the cycle. Fianna Fail make them and theirs money, the country suffers, FG and whoever fix it in the right wing disdain for the common folk way that they roll, then Fianna Fail come back with free Hot Wheels for the kids and the boys are back in town.

    It shows political belief, at least amongst some politicians, to be a farce and as we all suspect, simply about votes, (votes=money & power).


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    I suppose your right Colm, Latin was not really appreciated within Labour.

    Just wondering why you did not wait or at least give Lucinda and Peter Mathews a bell to get the lay of the land as to how things were shaping up in their effort to set up a new party.

    So there's a place now where your Latin might be better appreciated.

    The best of luck anyway in your efforts to serve the people well, although I believe that many of your policies and view of the current situation is misguided.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    A turncoat, Something very smarmy about him, Reminds me of Michael McGrath.

    Showing his true colours. He was not able to do the hard thing when it came to decisions and support Government in recent times. He will fit in well with FF, the party that is full of self serving individuals, full of hot air and little else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,114 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Independent says Keaveney will run in the new Roscommon-Galway constituency



    This constituency consists of all Co Roscommon and only 35 EDs from the old Galway East. Roscommon independents Denis Naughten and Ming Flanagan will hold their seats. The third will almost definitely go to a candidate from north Roscommon, probably Frank Feighan of Fine Gael, as the hospital closure is not a big issue in that area.

    I think the Indo is getting its constituencies mixed up, everything else I've read indicates he will remain in Galway East.
    Xenophile wrote: »
    I suppose your right Colm, Latin was not really appreciated within Labour.

    Just wondering why you did not wait or at least give Lucinda and Peter Mathews a bell to get the lay of the land as to how things were shaping up in their effort to set up a new party.

    Cos he knows full well such fancy new movements don't stand a chance outside Dublin...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    There are only two possible logical explanations:
    1. He is attracted to Bertie's socialist legacy.
    2. He is not attracted to the first item on the agenda of the new left party/grouping.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,502 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    Good luck to him getting elected.


    he's going to be completely toxic when it comes to transfers


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    This is a desperate act by two desperate parties...anyone with an ounce of integrity can see through this act of self preservation...

    It merely underlines the urgent need for a new political force...who can possibly argue that case now?

    I know a few people who have also left Labour in recent months...NONE of them have joined FF...mind you none of them were in it for the money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,804 ✭✭✭take everything




    He also tweeted a while back that the only way he'd join FF is if it was on Charon's ferry (a Hades reference).

    Seems like a naive but self-serving clown to me.
    Neo-gombeenism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,876 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    How about audentis fortuna me b0llix.

    In a country with a rich history of them, I have never seen a less credible political decison in my entire life.

    Keaveney is a patronising waffler, an unprincipled spoofer. Expect him to be unseated by a shinner at the first opportunity.

    I believe there's a Groupon deal for first class lounge seats on Charon's ferry if he's interested.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Xenophile




    he's going to be completely toxic when it comes to transfers

    I would agree!

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



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