Is the Wii U the next gen console to get this Christmas?

drunkmonkey

I've been thinking about this, the One and PS4 aren't really going to shine for at least another year by that time gamers will have missed out on some great Nintendo titles.
Considering you can pick up a Pro Wii U console with a game for about €250 new is it time to go re-look at the U?

Most of the top titles on the One & PS4 are available on the current 360 & PS3 and as there's no backwards comparability what's the rush in going for Microsoft or Sony's current offering.

Mario 3d looks like it could be one of the best games of the year, are we all missing a trick by ignoring Nintendo's budget friendly console this Christmas?

Pushtrak

I'm not sure for this Christmas, personally. I wouldn't be surprised if it is the first of the three I end up getting, but it'll be some time next year, most likely.

Mr E

If I had the cash, it's the one that I'd pick up first (out of the three).

Kiith

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I've been thinking about this, the One and PS4 aren't really going to shine for at least another year by that time gamers will have missed out on some great Nintendo titles.
Considering you can pick up a Pro Wii U console with a game for about €250 new is it time to go re-look at the U?

What top titles are there though? Genuine question, as there doesn't seem to be much available for it. No Zelda is a big one (I know WW is there, but no new one) for me.

Pushtrak

Kiith wrote: »

What top titles are there though? Genuine question, as there doesn't seem to be much available for it. No Zelda is a big one (I know WW is there, but no new one) for me.

New Super Mario Bros U, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Wonderful 101. There'll be Super Mario 3D World soon enough. All highly rated games. The big games to me will be that code name X game and Bayonetta 2... They aren't out till next year, though.

Mr E

Those, plus Wind Waker for me.

Mainly New Super Mario 3D World, though. Look like that will be the Wii U's killer app.

Pushtrak

Does look quite good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgjUiL6sKe4

Kiith

Is that X game the sequel (or successor) to Xenoblade? Cause that's a game that would make me buy the console in an instant.

Pushtrak

Yep. Looks great. No word on an exact release date yet though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Q4ld4uqcY

Kiith

Yeah, that's when i'll probably buy it. As much as i love Mario, the other games above wouldn't quite make it a definite purchase.

COYVB

Wii u is a seriously great piece of kit. Should be everyone's second console

COYVB

Pushtrak wrote: »

quite good

Understatement of the decade

Banjo

If you own 1 TV and don't live alone or with someone who always wants to play Co-Op with you, you need the Wii U. Off TV play is one of those things that, like smart phones and broadband and Sky+ and flushing toilets, we'll look back in 10 years and wonder what people did before it.


Don't forget Online Multiplayer Wii Sports Tennis and Bowling!

richymcdermott

Yes its worth the purchase now since its going to take sony and microsoft a full year to get going themselves.


as of right now you have nsmb u and luigi u. lego city undercover, monster hunter, zombi u , nintendoland, pikmin 3, mario 3d world, zelda wind waker hd and wonderful 101.

then coming next year you have donkey kong, mario kart, super smash bros u , bayonetta 2 , xenoblade 2

Always worth owning a wii u for a secondary console , the games are just too good to pass up

sweetie

I've just got myself a 3ds and enjoying it immesnely. Having had my differences recently with MS and loving PS plus i will be getting a PS4 in a year so but am seriously considering a Wii U for christmas.

papajimsmooth

Zombie U is great if you like the genre. Really immersive and great fun. You really have to play it though to get the feel.

Grumpypants

It is actually a good console and not just compared to the terrible Wii but compared to ps3 and 360.

But it's not next gen, not even close. If you are getting it because the others don't have a decent library I would think twice it also has a pretty bad library and very limit future.

Spend the money and get a ps4 it is outstanding.

Pushtrak

Grumpypants wrote: »

It is actually a good console and not just compared to the terrible Wii but compared to ps3 and 360.

The Wii wouldn't work as a one console system. It was great as a second or third console though.

If you are getting it because the others don't have a decent library I would think twice it also has a pretty bad library and very limit future.

There have been a fair few games listed that are out now or nearly out. That will not be the end of worthwhile titles on the Wii U.

Spend the money and get a ps4 it is outstanding.

It is or it will be? I really don't see a compelling case for it 'is' but I'd definitely get behind 'will be'.

abbir

If you don't have one already, yes I got mine on launch last year and it's been well worth it.

Getting a PS4 in two weeks myself, but I'm still not too sure why. I just like having the newest gadgets I guess.

jaykhunter

abbir wrote: »

If you don't have one already, yes I got mine on launch last year and it's been well worth it.

What have you got for it? I'm considering getting one but really just holding out until the next proper Mario/Zelda arrives.

Pushtrak

I've never played a Monster Hunter before. Anyone care to share their thoughts on MH3U?

Kirby

I don't have one yet but I can't recommend Pikmin enough. The first game was an absolute gem and I'm positive pikmin 3 is even better. The wind waker is a great Zelda also, remake or not. Mario 3d world thingy is out in a couple of weeks too and that looks pretty good.

The library isn't full enough for me yet, but I'm sure given another year, it will warrant a purchase.

FutureGuy

Oh no question, the Wii U is the one to get from the 3.

Parawind

As someone who should be getting a PS4 at launch (*touches wood*), I can honestly say that I am still more excited about Super Mario 3D World arriving on the 29th.

Certainly until at least March next year, there isn't much on PS4 or Xbox one (that you can't get on current gen) worth getting excited about.

Also Earthbound!

drunkmonkey

FutureGuy wrote: »

Oh no question, the Wii U is the one to get from the 3.

Is it worth cancelling a xbox one pre order? Have a 360 and I'm seeing no point in upgrading at the moment. Was all excited but lack of Xbox one only games and the fact that the 360 is still going strong is making me think twice. Wait a few months, let the price drop and the games list get bigger seems like the sensible thing to do. The Wii U is at a nice price now, £219 on amazon with a game.

ShadowHearth

Well, I personally think that people are a bit deluded if they think that prices of next gen consoles will drop in few month. Xbox ONE - very slim maybe, but I really doubt PS4 will. Wii U is strugling to sell a few Wii Us and look how long it took them to drop price just a little bit. retailers droped price even sooner for Wii U, because of Nintendo not making any cuts.
Next gen is being sold out, there is demand, no way there will be price drop. If you plan on buying next gen console in 1-2 years, then maybe there will be stronger chance of price drop.
If anyone does not want to buy new console, then its their right and its totally legit decision. Its just people need to be realistic on the price drops. If you ask me, I better buy it now and enjoy multiplatform games on a lot better quality, then waiting for a year to save 50eu and still be playing on ps3/360. ( Well I would be playing on PC mainly, and still will. :pac: )

As for Wii U - I sort of want one, but not as much as I wanted it few months ago. I was a pure junky of MH3 on 3DS. So I REALLY wanted a proper online with MH3 on Wii U. I got 90h played on 3ds and I am a bit burned out at this stage. The cross play is on PS4, so Wii Us cross play is not needed anymore. I could not give two shiets about Mario and Zelda so that already makes Wii Us library tiny for me.
MH4 is out for 3ds in Japan, Hopefully it will be out here soon too. So no point buying Wii U once more. If they will make MH4 for Wii in West, then getting Wii U will be more important then getting Xbox one.

drunkmonkey

The price has got better today, Smyths dropped the price down to €249.99 and there's a €12 off voucher good until the 18th https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/493358/280217.pdf

So a Wii U for €237.99 ?

Mr E

I played a Wii U for the first time today in Gamestop in Limerick (NSMBU).
Now I want one.

Danonino.

Quick question on the wiiU, if I have a Wii and a whole bunch of virtual console titles, can I redownload them on the WiiU?

Thinking of grabbing a WiiU and really like the idea of being able to play super metroid on the couch while the housemates watch tv or whatnot. I don't fancy buying 20+ vc games again to be honest.

Mr E

Google says yes.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wiiu/en_na/system_system_transfer.jsp?menu=how_to&submenu=wup-transfer-ht-content

Danonino.

Yeah I gave it a quick google and search but asking someone who has the console at home and has tried already seemed the best option. I've been stung before

Edit: yeah this seems to be what I feared. You can only transfer the games themselves not redownload them onto the new system. Means I'd have to sort out which games to leave on the Wii (so I can use Gamecube ports for multiplayer etc) and which to transfer over. Damn it.
Wonder what the chances are Nintendo start doing a cross buy system like PS+. oh well. Not the end of the world but a little annoying.

Bomberman 94 on the Wii for example I can play 5 player multiplayer by having a wii remote and 4 Cube Pads connected. If I transfer that over I get to play it on the gamepad but without the cube ports need to start buying extra remotes.

nesf

COYVB wrote: »

Wii u is a seriously great piece of kit. Should be everyone's second console

This. I got it for my son, he likes Pikmin etc quite a lot. I got Monster Hunter for myself but haven't given it any time yet. As an only console it'd only satisfy a casual gamer though for the odd evenings entertainment (or perhaps kids, though mine wouldn't be happy with just it which in fairness could be due random gaming devices peppering the house since birth for them).

CastorTroy

Danonino. wrote: »

Yeah I gave it a quick google and search but asking someone who has the console at home and has tried already seemed the best option. I've been stung before

Edit: yeah this seems to be what I feared. You can only transfer the games themselves not redownload them onto the new system. Means I'd have to sort out which games to leave on the Wii (so I can use Gamecube ports for multiplayer etc) and which to transfer over. Damn it.
Wonder what the chances are Nintendo start doing a cross buy system like PS+. oh well. Not the end of the world but a little annoying.

Bomberman 94 on the Wii for example I can play 5 player multiplayer by having a wii remote and 4 Cube Pads connected. If I transfer that over I get to play it on the gamepad but without the cube ports need to start buying extra remotes.

I've kept my Wii sitting beside the Wii U. You can't sort through your VC games to pick which to keep and which to transfer. As far as I know, the transfer is all or nothing.

Sephiroth_dude

If I wasn't getting a ps4 I'd pick one up just for monster hunter.

Pushtrak

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

If I wasn't getting a ps4 I'd pick one up just for monster hunter.

:pac:

You can still get it. There aren't One Console Police going around sending people off to a gulag.

super_furry

Think at this stage it's doomed and I'll 'do a Dreamcast' on it and pick it up for next to nothing with a load of games when Nintendo drop it.

Danonino.

nah not a chance, thats what they said about the cube and that still turned out to be a great machine with some excellent games. Enough games for it to be probably my favorite console. The games will come and they will be worth having, plus they won't be available anywhere else so if people want to play them they will buy :pac: Nintendo know what they are doing, pretty sure they are the only company left that sell consoles at a profit, plus DS/3DS sales could probably support the WiiU alone.


They need a HD starfox, no free roam or adventure stuff just a really good nostalgic eye feast of spaceflying awesomeness.
F-Zero would be also be amazing. A wiiU Fire Emblem, Metroid, and Advance wars too. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Banjo

CastorTroy wrote: »

I've kept my Wii sitting beside the Wii U. You can't sort through your VC games to pick which to keep and which to transfer. As far as I know, the transfer is all or nothing.

You're not transferring VC Games, you're transferring your hardware-tied Wii Shop account to the vWii on the WiiU.

If your Wii is softmodded, you have options though...

Myrddin

super_furry wrote: »

Think at this stage it's doomed and I'll 'do a Dreamcast' on it and pick it up for next to nothing with a load of games when Nintendo drop it.

Someone bookmark this post so we can look back on it an a few years & let hilarity ensue

Danonino.

Banjo wrote: »

You're not transferring VC Games, you're transferring your hardware-tied Wii Shop account to the vWii on the WiiU.

If your Wii is softmodded, you have options though...

whoa whoa wait a second, does this mean if I transfer one game from the Wii, my entire shop transfers to the WiiU meaning none of the VC games n the wii will work anymore?

or am I reading this all wrong?

Nintendo really do need to do a unified account.

Edit: ok now I'm getting confused. If I do transfer over the VC games by what I have read they now are but you need a wiimote to control them (not a problem) My question is can you start the wiiU and play the wii VC games without turning on the telly?

think I just need to buy one and find out

witnessmenow

Banjo wrote: »

If you own 1 TV and don't live alone or with someone who always wants to play Co-Op with you, you need the Wii U. Off TV play is one of those things that, like smart phones and broadband and Sky+ and flushing toilets, we'll look back in 10 years and wonder what people did before it.


Don't forget Online Multiplayer Wii Sports Tennis and Bowling!

It really won't. My brother has a Wii U, my family lives in a pretty standard house in terms of construction material (i.e. bricks) and it doesn't reliably reach outside of the living room (where the WII U is)

Why it doesnt have the option to make use your home network I do not know.

Banjo

Edit : I may be wrong. I frequently am. The horses I back in the Grand National tend to get shot and I honestly thought Pilotwings Resort would hold it's value.
But

Far as I remember, when you do the transfer from Wii to WiiU it takes everything it can, transferring both data from the Wii Memory (ie your installed software from memory) and the purchase info / licence-to-download from the wii Shop which is why they need both of your consoles online for the purpose of the transfer. I don't remember being asked what items I wanted to transfer.... I just pressed a button, the music started and then the Pikmins came for my data... Afterwards I could download purchased software from the vWii shop that had been purchased on the Wii.

The key thing is, I think, that it moves the unique license / ID from the Wii to the vWii, then assigns your Wii a different license (or moves the Wii Shop account associate from the Wii to the vWii)
If you have the facility to backup your existing Wii's NAND before the transfer, do.

Edit : Off-TV Play - it's a first draft. I have a normal-ish house, WiiU is in the far corner of my sitting room, I can just make it into my kitchen or downstairs toilet or the car parked outside - all excellent places for playing Nintendo undisturbed! If I moved the WiiU to a more central location, I'd have full coverage all over the downstairs, possibly upstairs too.

Ninty are pretty closed-box in their thinking, they want you to have an in-the-box solution that requires the bare minimum of outside hardware to function. Remember how surprising it was when they announced you could attach a 3rd party HDD to the box? But they take that closed-box thinking a step too far most of the time, and don't allow you to expand your options if you have the means.

I'd guess - and I suspect you will know more about this subject than I - that if they allowed you to introduce a Switch you're bringing in network latency over which they have no control, possible congestion and bandwidth issues. All of these impact the responsiveness of the controller, and Ninty have always been about the gameplay experience*. Rather than take that risk, they delivered a controller they know works and locked the box behind them.

Similarly if you introduced some sort of repeater to extend the range, the noise levels go up, the bandwidth for the controller gets halved and you potentially degrade the experience.

Down the line there was talk of introducing support for a second controller, so that suggests you might get away with a single controller + repeater, but I would not expect them to release one if it damaged the responsiveness of the controller.

(*and the money. If they could release a proprietry solution I'm sure they would.)

tok9

I still don't think it's time to pick up a Wii U for me personally.

Obviously finances dictate that too since I'm still on course to get the PS4 but I imagine like the Wii I'll pick it up in a year or 2 when a good few exclusives have come out.

tok9

Actually after listening to the Weekend Confirmed podcast I would say the 3DS would be the console to get.

Does someone want to buy it for me?

Temptamperu

I had enough of mario games after galaxy 2... what else does it play sports merde? Nintendo sucks guys I love looking back with rose tinted glasses but they just keep rolling out the same few titles year after year.

tok9

Temptamperu wrote: »

I had enough of mario games after galaxy 2... what else does it play sports merde? Nintendo sucks guys I love looking back with rose tinted glasses but they just keep rolling out the same few titles year after year.

I strongly disagree with you.

Nintendo are one of the most if not most innovative developers out there.

They have a legacy of games that they are somehow still able to keep fresh.

Temptamperu

You can disagree all you like, its a kids toy and nothing more.

sweetie

Temptamperu wrote: »

You can disagree all you like, its a kids toy and nothing more.

mm, okay and the ps360 is what?

Retr0gamer

Temptamperu wrote: »

You can disagree all you like, its a kids toy and nothing more.

So are videogames. Even if they have an 15-18 rating at the front stuff like CoD and GTA are still ultimately childish. There's more maturity in most nintendo games.

tok9

Temptamperu wrote: »

You can disagree all you like, its a kids toy and nothing more.

That is one odd way of looking at it.

What games do you play that you think are better than Nintendo titles?

ShadowHearth

tok9 wrote: »

That is one odd way of looking at it.

What games do you play that you think are better than Nintendo titles?

I dont see Wii U as kids toy, but for some people it might be a shock, that not all people Would suck off a Mario if he would pop out of screen. I personally could not care less about Mario/Zelda games and I cant understand why those games get so much praise and love.