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J C

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It's the truth. The universe is indifferent to life.

Quite true ... but God isn't indifferent to us.

J C

Jernal wrote: »

*Shrugs*

Whatever, I don't believe in Evolution. I just accept it for the time being.

... because, despite it being objectively untrue ... it's the best that science can offer to somebody who wants to reject God ... as the Creator of life.

Delirium

FYI: This is Option Number Twenty-Five. Isn't this being a bit, uh, mean on the hamsters?

J C wrote: »

... because, despite it being objectively untrue ... it's the best that science can offer to somebody who wants to reject God.

The leaders/clergy of almost all Christian organisations reject God?

J C

koth wrote: »

Thus confirming they're idiots. Still doesn't explain the relevance.

... idiots whose belief in the supremacy of Evolution is so strong that they are prepared to kill to 'help it along'.

J C

koth wrote: »

The leaders/clergy of almost all Christian organisations reject God?

... if the cap fits ... and all that!!!

Evolution is certainly used by Materialists to 'write God out' of the history of life.

Turtwig

J C wrote: »

... because, despite it being objectively untrue ... it's the best that science can offer to somebody who wants to reject God.

Reject who?

J C

Jernal wrote: »

Reject who?

... see what I mean!!!:)

Delirium

FYI: This is Option Number Twenty-Five. Isn't this being a bit, uh, mean on the hamsters?

J C wrote: »

... idiots whose belief in the supremacy of Evolution is so strong that they are prepared to kill to 'help it along'.

Still idiots. You can't diminish the position of evolution within the realm of science just because some idiots start killing people.

J C wrote: »

... if the cap fits ... and all that!!!

Evolution is certainly used by Materialists to eliminate God from the history of life.

You're contradicting yourself again.

Geomy

I often wonder is science inside out or outside in.

Which came first the Atheist or the Theist ?

Cabaal

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J C wrote: »

... because, despite it being objectively untrue ... it's the best that science can offer to somebody who wants to reject God ... as the Creator of life.

You cant reject something if it doesnt exist.

Your argument is as silly as shouting that i reject the easter bunny or tooth fairy, in order for me to reject them they have to be atleast real to begin with.

How dare you reject jack and the beanstock!

J C

koth wrote: »

Still idiots. You can't diminish the position of evolution within the realm of science just because some idiots start killing people.

True ... but it was originally introduced in the context of Robin using a news report of a row between two guys over the merits of Evolution (where one of them killed the other) to suggest that Creationists were 'dangerous'.

koth wrote: »

You're contradicting yourself again.

How so?

Turtwig

Geomy wrote: »

I often wonder is science inside out or outside in.

Which came first the Atheist or the Theist ?

It's quite obviously both inside out and outside in depending on the state of the observer. To answer your second question that depends on whether or not God came before Cthulu, or whether the fence that separates those two came first. In which case, it's the agnostics who came first.

Also 'God came'
*titter*

J C

Geomy wrote: »

I often wonder is science inside out or outside in.

Many of the Evolutionist bits are upside down!!!

Geomy wrote: »

Which came first the Atheist or the Theist ?

The Theist came first. Adam was the first Theist, as he personally knew God.

Geomy

J C wrote: »

The Theist came first. Adam was the first Theist, as he personally knew God.

Oh no, we can't go back there again lol

Delirium

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J C wrote: »

True ... but it was originally introduced in the context of Robin using a news report of a row between two guys over the merits of Evolution (where one of them killed the other) to suggest that Creationists were 'dangerous'.

So your response is to also engage in mud slinging? By posting the response you did to robins post, you're accepting the premise you attempted to rebut.

How so?

You're saying that most of the branches of Christianity are attempting to eliminate God from the history of life.

Turtwig

J C wrote: »

Many of the Evolutionist bits are upside down!!!:D

The Theist came first. Adam was the first Theist, as he personally knew God.

He's not really a theist though. I mean he doesn't have to "believe" in God the bloody guy is right there in front of him punishing him for all eternity. You don't need to believe there. First theist obviously came later.

Delirium

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J C wrote: »

Many of the Evolutionist bits are upside down!!!:D

The Theist came first. Adam was the first Theist, as he personally knew God.

J C

koth wrote: »

So your response is to also engage in mud slinging? By posting the response you did to robins post, you're accepting the premise you attempted to rebut.

I will admit to debating Robin on his own terms ... on this issue.:)

koth wrote: »

You're saying that most of the branches of Christianity are attempting to eliminate God from the history of life.

I think not ... a few pseudo-liberal dudes who are at the point of becoming 'practical atheists' on the issue of how life arose ... do not constitute 'most branches of Christianity'.:)

J C

Jernal wrote: »

He's not really a theist though. I mean he doesn't have to "believe" in God the bloody guy is right there in front of him punishing him for all eternity. You don't need to believe there. First theist obviously came later.

They say that seeing is believing ... and in Adam's case this was literally true.

Delirium

FYI: This is Option Number Twenty-Five. Isn't this being a bit, uh, mean on the hamsters?

J C wrote: »

I will admit to debating Robin on his own terms ... on this issue.:)



I think not ... a few pseudo-liberal dudes who are at the point of becoming 'practical atheists' on the issue of how life arose ... do not constitute 'most branches of Christianity'.:)

I suggest you get up to speed with your fellow Christians acceptance of evolution.

J C

koth wrote: »

I suggest you get up to speed with your fellow Christians acceptance of evolution.

Most of the Christians I know are creationists (with a small c) ... and this isn't surprising given the fact that both the Apostles and Nicene Creeds (that practically all churches have as an article of faith) declare God to be the Creator/Maker of all things in Heaven and on Earth.

Brian Shanahan

J C wrote: »

... they took on Satan's image, at least in part ... when they Fell

You do know that satan was gods assistant, and that his being the devil a post Roman Empire invention, correct?

Or are you one of the vast legion of christians who know c. 20 lines from the bible max, and have never read the actual book?

Oh, wait you're the latter, if not you wouldn't be chrisitian.

Brian Shanahan

J C wrote: »

I did no such thing ... I merely pointed to what these psychopaths said.

No you laid the blame square on evolution's shoulders. Its not my fault you can't understand your own words.

Brian Shanahan

Bannasidhe wrote: »

I was thinking the exact same thing reading your posts.

God is merciful = He had to DROWN all life.
God is love = He HAD to drown all life.
God is just = He had to drown ALL life.

Hey, he loves Big Brother!

gaynorvader

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J C wrote: »

I was talking specifically about the school shooters in America and Finland.
Why do you find this descriptor of these people to be 'offensive'?

Ah, it was not apparent as your post did not overtly reply to anyone as it didn't seem to address any points raised by others.

BobbyPropane

If God isn't real then how did Noah exist?

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MrPudding

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J C wrote: »

... idiots whose belief in the supremacy of Evolution is so strong that they are prepared to kill to 'help it along'.

OK, I have kind of let it go, as i trhought you were joking. Are you actually saying these guys killed in the nam of evolution? Seriously? You know it is a figure of speech don't you? Not very tasteful, perhaps, but still a figure of speech. "did you see the news last night? a boy racer killed himself crashing into a tree. Natural selection in action." etc.

I appreciate that you struggle to separate fact from fiction and literary devices may be beyond your ken, but it really i just a figure of speech.

MrP

BobbyPropane

BobbyPropane wrote: »

If God isn't real then how did Noah exist?

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If Noah didn't exist than why are we talking about him?

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Turtwig

BobbyPropane wrote: »

If Noah didn't exist than why are we talking about him?

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Why are you talking to yourself?

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BobbyPropane

Jernal wrote: »

Why are you talking to yourself?

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