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smcgiff

Terrlock wrote: »

However if you don't believe in God why do you have a problem with it?

Terrlock wrote: »

However I can also point out if our solar system is billions of years old then why are there still comets flying around it?

Anyone missing J C right about now?

Sonics2k

Sonics2k wrote: »

Sorry but "God did it" is not a real answer. It's literally no different from saying "Buddha did it" or "Zeus did it" except you happen to believe in one of these gods.

Buddha's not a god ;(


Are we back to "I'm a good person because if I didn't believe in god i'd be out murdering and torturing people"?
That's always great craic

Sonics2k

Terrlock wrote: »

and your right actually in the sense is how can you prove that.

However I can also point out if our solar system is billions of years old then why are there still comets flying around it?

evolutionists are equally guilty of babbling.

Bloody hell, are you serious?

gaynorvader

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Terrlock wrote: »

and your right actually in the sense is how can you prove that.

However I can also point out if our solar system is billions of years old then why are there still comets flying around it?

evolutionists are equally guilty of babbling.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it wrong. Have you tried to read up on why comets are still flying around? The reasons are partly due to the lack of friction in space, leading to things decelerating very very slowly and partly due to things like suns exploding, comets hitting other planets and breaking them apart, slingshot effects, etc. They are not all due to the big bang.

Obliq

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Terrlock wrote: »

I was spending time with family and friends.

I don't really spend much time looking at boards.ie

So it's not Just about berating JC then.

It's about Berating anyone with a creationist world view.

Oh dear. How am I berating someone by disagreeing with them? If you could point to where I've done that, that'd be great ta.

And I was being a bit tongue in cheek with the "where were you when..." comment. To be honest, I was genuinely under the impression there was only one creationist up here. Apparently not! My bad

Still though. Despite all evidence to the contrary, you REALLY believe that the earth and all life was created by a supernatural being only 6,000 years ago?

Turtwig

Terrlock wrote: »

However I can also point out if our solar system is billions of years old then why are there still comets flying around it?

If you fire a bullet or spray water from a garden hose. It will always curve downwards toward the earth. Suppose however you can match the curve of the spray of the garden hose to that of the curvature of the earth. Once you turn on the water the water is forever remaining falling towards the ground. In effect, it's now orbiting the planet. The solar system has it owns gravity well like the earth and if the comet when it's created in the Oort Cloud or whereever has a velocity that matches that gravity well very closely it can take an almost infinite time for its orbit to decay.

iDave

Terrlock wrote: »

and your right actually in the sense is how can you prove that.

However I can also point out if our solar system is billions of years old then why are there still comets flying around it?

evolutionists are equally guilty of babbling.

Evolution and astronomy are completely different fields.
Not sure how comets though are proof against a 14 billion year old universe.

robindch

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Terrlock wrote: »

If we all evolved from some single-celled organism that spontaneously developed from some 'primordial soup', where did we get the genetic material for all forms of life on earth today? Even giving millions of years to do so.

Millions? Billions.

The oldest documented, albeit contested, evidence for life on Earth is probably around 3.6 billion years (3,600 million years) old. We know from studying DNA what mutation rates are, so it's very simple to show that there's plenty of time, even assuming a desperately slow mutation rate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_evolutionary_history_of_life

robindch

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Jernal wrote: »

If you fire a bullet or spray water from a garden hose. It will always curve downwards toward the earth.

Gravity is just a theory.

If I had the courage of my convictions, I'd leap from a fourth-floor window to prove it.

Brian Shanahan

pauldla wrote: »

Only Boba Fett surpasses him as 'fictional bad guys who are actually big girls' blouses'.

I honestly think the bible subscribes to the Joe Stalin measure of evilitude:

One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.

Because for the count that attributes 60 murders to Satan, 25 million people have been murdered by god.

Delirium

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Terrlock wrote: »

However I can also point out if our solar system is billions of years old then why are there still comets flying around it?

Terrlock

bumper234 wrote: »

Allegedly








Mars by the looks of things

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/165184-life-on-earth-originally-came-from-mars-new-study-suggests

I read the article that you linked and find it difficult understanding how you could buy into that.

I seen earlier in the thread that people where arguing against the flood on the basis that how would all the animals have spread after the flood to all the areas of the earth... How did animals get to Australia and so forth.

Yet you buy this -

"If simple RNA-based organisms did actually form on Mars, then it wouldn’t be too hard for it to hitch a ride to Earth on a meteorite."

So you find hard to believe that animals could spread throughout the earth after the flood, yet you would believe an article that says that the early forms of DNA hitch-hiked on a meteorite from mars to earth.

Wow, just wow.

It still actually doesn't answer my question posed however. It just moves the problem

The question is how did the information get into the DNA? Given that new information in DNA has not been created ever in history.

Information cannot just spontaneously form from an accident in nature.

Sonics2k

Terrlock wrote: »

and your right actually in the sense is how can you prove that.

However I can also point out if our solar system is billions of years old then why are there still comets flying around it?

evolutionists are equally guilty of babbling.

I'm sorry, I know I already responded to this. But good god.

Just because you are clearly uneducated in Astronomy and the very -basics- of Astrophysics or even Gravity itself for that matter does not mean any of it is babble. In fact it's perfectly bloody logical.

My SEVEN year old daughter understands the basics of this. How can you, as a fully grown adult not comprehend it?

p.s.
Sorry Bluewolf!

Turtwig

Sonics2k wrote: »

I'm sorry, I know I already responded to this. But good god.

Just because you are clearly uneducated in Astronomy and the very -basics- of Astrophysics or even Gravity itself for that matter does not mean any of it is babble. In fact it's perfectly bloody logical.

My SEVEN year old daughter understands the basics of this. How can you, as a fully grown adult not comprehend it?

p.s.
Sorry Bluewolf!

Oh God change that b. I got lynched over that before!

MrPudding

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Terrlock wrote: »

I didn't read the Harry Potter or Lord of the rings books...

For some reason I am not surprised.

MrP

Terrlock

koth wrote: »

The tongue of the wise commends knowledge, but the mouths of fools pour out folly

Terrlock

MrPudding wrote: »

For some reason I am not surprised.

MrP

Would you recommend them?

Delirium

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Terrlock wrote: »

I read the article that you linked and find it difficult understanding how you could buy into that.

I seen earlier in the thread that people where arguing against the flood on the basis that how would all the animals have spread after the flood to all the areas of the earth... How did animals get to Australia and so forth.

Yet you buy this -

"If simple RNA-based organisms did actually form on Mars, then it wouldn’t be too hard for it to hitch a ride to Earth on a meteorite."

So you find hard to believe that animals could spread throughout the earth after the flood, yet you would believe an article that says that the early forms of DNA hitch-hiked on a meteorite from mars to earth.

Wow, just wow.

It still actually doesn't answer my question posed however. It just moves the problem

The question is how did the information get into the DNA? Given that new information in DNA has not been created ever in history.

Information cannot just spontaneously form from an accident in nature.

You think the 100% of all kangaroos swam from China to Australia? And did it so quickly that they left no evidence of existing anywhere outside of Oz?

Brian Shanahan

Terrlock wrote: »

Have you a moral objection to it?

Because severe physical and mental problems are more prevalent in children born of incestuous relationships.

I don't think we should allow anyone to suffer the fate of Carlos II, last Habsburg King of Spain.

Delirium

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Terrlock wrote: »

The tongue of the wise commends knowledge, but the mouths of fools pour out folly

I'm rubber, you're glue. What bounces off me, sticks to you.

Zed Bank

This better be listed as fictional.

Cabaal

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Terrlock wrote: »

The tongue of the wise commends knowledge, but the mouths of fools pour out folly

Trying to call yourself wise?
Pull the other one.

Cabaal

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Zed Bank wrote: »

This better be listed as fictional.

IMDB lists it as:

Genres: Adventure | Drama | Fantasy

Spot on then

smcgiff

koth wrote: »

You think the 100% of all kangaroos swam from China to Australia? And did it so quickly that they left no evidence of existing anywhere outside of Oz?

Don't be silly.

God did it as a test with the click of a finger. He puts obstacles to reason in your way, but if you still believe then you get a ticket into Heaven.

I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

gaynorvader

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Terrlock wrote: »

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It still actually doesn't answer my question posed however. It just moves the problem

The question is how did the information get into the DNA? Given that new information in DNA has not been created ever in history.

Information cannot just spontaneously form from an accident in nature.

So because we haven't observed something in the last few thousand years (something we'd have only been capable of observing for the last 60 or so) that could be happening without our knowledge even now, that means it doesn't happen? Your whole argument is built up on the supposition that it's not possible if we haven't seen it. We're not all-knowing.

Terrlock

Sonics2k wrote: »

I'm sorry, I know I already responded to this. But good god.

Just because you are clearly uneducated in Astronomy and the very -basics- of Astrophysics or even Gravity itself for that matter does not mean any of it is babble. In fact it's perfectly bloody logical.

My SEVEN year old daughter understands the basics of this. How can you, as a fully grown adult not comprehend it?

p.s.
Sorry Bluewolf!

How exactly am I uneducated about astronomy?

It is theorised that most comets in our solar system come from the Oort cloud, however in reality this Oort cloud has never actually been proven.

Which is my point, both creationist's and evolutionists both argue with unproven theory's backing them up.

Delirium

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Terrlock wrote: »

How exactly am I uneducated about astronomy?

It is theorised that most comets in our solar system come from the Oort cloud, however in reality this Oort cloud has never actually been proven.

Which is my point, both creationist's and evolutionists both argue with unproven theory's backing them up.

creationists use religious myths, not theories.

iDave

Terrlock wrote: »

How exactly am I uneducated about astronomy?

It is theorised that most comets in our solar system come from the Oort cloud, however in reality this Oort cloud has never actually been proven.

Which is my point, both creationist's and evolutionists both argue with unproven theory's backing them up.

What has the 'unproven' Oort cloud got to do with evolution. They are radically different fields of study.

Brian Shanahan

Terrlock wrote: »

If the Lord can feed a whole nation for 40 years in the Desert then I think feeding animals for six months would be a trivial task for him to accomplish.

You know that this desert you talk of takes about two weeks to traverse, walking slowly?

And that doesn't even touch upon the fact that the Jews were never enslaved in Egypt.

bumper234

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Terrlock wrote: »

How exactly am I uneducated about astronomy?

It is theorised that most comets in our solar system come from the Oort cloud, however in reality this Oort cloud has never actually been proven.

Which is my point, both creationist's and evolutionists both argue with unproven theory's backing them up.

I have seen a comet with my own eyes.

I have seen a meteorite with my own eyes.

Have you seen a god with your own eyes?