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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    A 48-year-old woman who injured her partner after discharging a shotgun when she discovered he was having an affair has been given a two-year suspended jail sentence.

    Andrea Booth, of Nurney Bog Road, Nurney, Co Kildare, pleaded guilty at Naas Circuit Criminal Court to a charge of recklessly discharging a firearm at the home she shared with her partner, Patrick Healy, on 7 October 2020, contrary to Section 8 of the Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act 1990.

    [..]

    The court heard that Mr Healy heard his partner hitting his car and later hitting the wall of a bedroom with his legally held shotgun.

    Gda Young said the gun was discharged during the incident and Mr Healy suffered wounds from two shotgun pellets which struck his arm.


    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/0609/1388342-andrea-booth-shotgun-court

    I'm left wondering whether if the genders were reversed, a tougher punishment might have been given.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    When looking at some discussions at the last case, someone flagged this case:


    ‘I’ve stabbed you now, good enough’ – woman (38) spared jail for calling to ex-boyfriend’s home while drunk and knifing him

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/ive-stabbed-you-now-good-enough-woman-38-spared-jail-for-calling-to-ex-boyfriends-home-while-drunk-and-knifing-him/41631487.html

    "A woman who called around to her ex-partner's apartment one morning and stabbed him in the torso has been given a suspended two-year sentence and ordered to pay him €2,000."



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    I'm left wondering how one 'accidentally' discharges a shotgun, twice, in such circumstances.

    The law requires that "A shotgun shall be disassembled and each part shall be stored securely and separately when not in use. The trigger housing shall be secured against use with an appropriate trigger lock." and also "that when the relevant firearm is not in use, the ammunition for it must be stored in a locked receptacle that is separate from any firearm in which that ammunition is capable of being used."

    An accident? Twice? Once is an accident. Twice is a decision. The mind boggles at the operation of our legal system at times.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    Derek Byrne: People in same-sex relationships also suffer the blight of domestic violence

    Many in the LGBT+ community are reluctant to talk about abusive behaviour

    https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/derek-byrne-people-in-same-sex-relationships-also-suffer-the-blight-of-domestic-violence/a1715152463.html

    Other Irish researchers have pointed to the difficulty in engaging lesbians in this form of research, partly because many women in female-to-female relationships don’t recognise what they are experiencing as domestic violence as there isn’t a man involved.


    Another surprising characteristic of domestic violence in same-sex relationships is that it tends to be bi-directional: that is, both partners tend to be abusive towards each other. Problem drug and alcohol use are also a key factor, with alcohol being prevalent in female relationships and recreational drug use similarly in male relationships.


    However, as far as calls to the Men’s Aid helpline are concerned, men in same-sex relationships appear to have gone back into their closets, if you’ll excuse the analogy. I have also witnessed a resistance from some groups within the LGBT+ community to discuss the issue of domestic violence as something that happens in same-sex relationships.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,671 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    There will always be higher rates of unreported issues like domestic violence among minorities, because of the way they know their communities are perceived in society already and the social stigma which exists, and that’s why men like Derek who are looking to highlight and address the issues will find little research on the topic or victims willing to speak about their experiences - because they fear being ostracised from their communities, they fear not being taken seriously, and they fear that they are betraying their own communities if they make a complaint to the authorities.

    There is also contributing to this the pervasive attitudes in society that people can’t get their heads around the idea that men could be victims of domestic violence and/or abuse, which feeds into the perception that men shouldn’t talk about it, which leads to the assumption for men that they can’t. Women experience the same feelings but there’s much greater acceptance of women being victims of domestic violence, coupled with the assumption that only men are capable of being violent.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    Sex education to be compulsory in Irish schools

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckrjvj3lnxlo

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    Among the topics covered will be "consent, intimacy and mutual pleasure" and how to identify abusive or violent relationships.

    That will include "a particular focus on violence against women and girls."



  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭Blinked_Missed It



    Funny how when its lesbians its apparently ok to say the domestic abuse is bidirectional. 2 or more violent abusive women. But when it comes to domestic violence in heterosexual relationships DV suddenly becomes "gender based" where only males are violent and only women are victims. Got to keep the millions in taxpayer funding coming in to the misandry political, academic and NGO industry.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    Fully paid domestic violence leave to start in autumn

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0808/1398633-domestic-violence



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭thatshowthelightgetsin


    With solicitors across Ireland, in fact, advising men/fathers not to report domestic violence by women against them to An Garda Síochána, you can be quite certain the statistics on the number of men being recorded as victims of DV will continue to be minuscule, and thus men's entitlement to this sort of woke tokenism from a savagely underfunded, inhumane family law process will be non-existent. Sure, even Women's Aid, according to that article, is drawing up the legislation for the Government of Ireland!

    And, for those shocked that this is the reality of the legal advice from solicitors and wondering why, the answer is "If the man makes an allegation, the woman will invent an allegation and when gardaí or a judge get involved, it will always be the man who will have to leave the family home even if he is telling the truth and she is lying." There you have it. Irish family law in practise in 2023. And everybody involved - most especially the misandrist wing of taxpayer-funded Women's Aid who advise women on how to levy false allegations successfully - knows this is the way it goes.


    There has to be a day of reckoning for the politicians and judges of the Irish State about what is happening fathers across each and every courtroom in this State every single day (judgments like this recent one: https://tinyurl.com/2vysnre2). The vast majority of Irish fathers have no notion whatsoever of how comprehensively the entire legal and policing system of this State is stacked against then until they get the courage to end the relationship, or have it ended by their children's mother. Above all else, false allegations by women against fathers are 100% unpunished by Irish family law courts - despite the enormous destruction that particular evil creates for fathers and their children's relationship with them - and false allegations continue to dominate almost every single removal of a father from his family home and children's lives. For those still in denial: no evidence is required, the woman merely has to claim she is "in fear". Check that one out. In effect, the entire force of Irish law adopts an "I believe her" policy, and men are consequently guilty until proven innocent (many years later, and many tens of thousands of euro in legal fees later).

    This is the reality, and don't be so smug to think it just happens "other men". All Irish fathers, and the people who love them, should have great clarity on the reality that it can just as easily happen your son, your father, your brother, your nephew, you - once you challenge the "I am the mother. I own the children and the family home" mentality in all its abject irrationality and mental unwellness.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    Man’s wife wouldn’t let him shower in case he was meeting someone after work, court hears

    Family Law Court grants Protection Order to man as he fears for safety and mental health due to alleged abuse from ‘paranoid’ wife


    https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2023/10/20/mans-wife-wouldnt-let-him-shower-in-case-he-was-meeting-someone-after-work-court-hears



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    Daughter of Jason Corbett to release balloons marking End Domestic Violence month

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41258218.html



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    Judge deploys new stalking law in case against Co Clare woman

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    A judge has deployed a new law aimed at dealing with alleged stalking by ordering a Co Clare woman not to go within 500 metres of her ex-husband’s home.

    At Ennis District Court, Judge Alec Gabbett made the restraining order on the woman under new legislation that only came into force last week.

    Making the application on behalf of the man, solicitor Mairead Doyle said her client’s ex-wife “is constantly watching him”.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41264113.html



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    Looks like there is now and will be likely in the future a further imbalance in what's available for families where the domestic abuse victim is female rather than male

    How Meath refuge centre helps repair lives of children after domestic abuse: ‘We came with just the clothes on our backs’

    Study calls for more child support workers


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    The “Where I’m At” programme funded by RTÉ’s Toy Show Appeal helped 80 children in 2022.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/how-meath-refuge-centre-helps-repair-lives-of-children-after-domestic-abuse-we-came-with-just-the-clothes-on-our-backs/a1768371994.html



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    Just saw a TV ad for Women’s Aid sponsored by Allianz during the Late, Late Show. Such ads aren’t cheap. My guess is they don’t support charities supporting male victims much if at all.

    Such an imbalance can enshrine the view that domestic violence is almost solely something done by men to women. 



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    New domestic violence leave entitlements begin

    Updated / Monday, 27 Nov 2023 21:46

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2023/1127/1418599-domestic-violence-leave/

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    Last week, a new online support hub was launched for employers ahead of the introduction of statutory domestic violence leave.

    The website www.DVatWork.ie provides free resources to support employers to implement the new leave entitlements including a policy template with guidance notes, information sessions and an email support service.

    It has been developed by Women's Aid and funded by the Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth.


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    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/1124/1418274-business-hub/

    A new website www.DVatWork.ie provides free resources to support employers to implement the new leave entitlements.

    It has been developed by Women's Aid and funded by the Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth.

    The online support hub includes a policy template with guidance notes, information sessions and an email support service.

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    I haven't looked into it indepth but I have a concern about Women's Aid leading such a service. For example, if an employer discusses a case where the male seems to be the victim and the female the perpetrator, could they Women's Aid contact encourage a re-evaluation of the situation? 



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    Perhaps not a classic example of domestic violence but losing access to property they part own is probably not uncommon for men when they separate


    Seeking domestic violence order against wife not ‘a convenient way’ of getting back into family home, says judge

    Man tells court landlord is selling property he rents and he wants to move back into the family home

    https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2023/12/23/seeking-domestic-violence-order-against-wife-not-a-convenient-way-of-getting-back-into-family-home-says-judge/

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    The man said his wife is living in the home with some of her family and they told him he wasn’t allowed in the house.

    He said he went to the home in recent days to move over his stuff and his wife was “abusing” him, and said ‘go f****** live with your mother’.

    The man said his wife’s sister also pushed him out of the property.

    Judge Furlong told the man he should go to the gardaí regarding the woman’s sister and the court couldn’t grant an order against her as he had not been living with her.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭iptba


    Minister McEntee launches 2024 implementation plan for Zero Tolerance Strategy

    From Department of Justice 

    Published on 1 April 2024

    Last updated on 2 April 2024




    Priority areas include refuge accommodation, with eight new family refuge units to be delivered this year, a further 25 family refuge units to be under construction by the end of the year, and a strategic plan on safe accommodation for people experiencing domestic violence to be developed, which will include the delivery of more safe homes throughout the year.
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    Anyone know if men will be able to use these family refuge facilities?I don’t follow this area closely. Cuan seems to be a new entity set up by the State so it would not be good if men were excluded.


    With regard to zero tolerance, I get the impression many think about this with male perpetrators in mind. Some people can be quite inclined to not have a zero tolerance approach when there is a female perpetrator.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/11157-minister-mcentee-launches-2024-implementation-plan-for-zero-tolerance-strategy/



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