Using the term Paki

therandomguy

When I lived in England, we had Paki Shops. eg. "...I am going to the Packi shop to get some milk.." The shop was owned by Pakistani's. They only time anyone was offended was if they were not Packi - ie if they were actually Indians and still called Paki's.

Xeyn

Davelarson wrote: »

Its understandable though in the case of the Chinese and the Jews. I sure there were plenty of Allied servicemen and their families who had a burning hatred of the Japanese too and for good reason. I mean I don't feel any sympathy for the Japanese or the Germans. They got what they deserved.

You do realise that most Japanese and Germans today had absolutely nothing to do with either world war?

HansHolzel

"There's only one Paki Bonner!" - the Hill 16 taunting of Meath goalie Kevin McQuillan after he made a similar handling boo-boo to the clanger in the 1990 World Cup.

Davelarson

Xeyn wrote: »

You do realise that most Japanese and Germans today had absolutely nothing to do with either world war?

Yes I am aware of that...I don't feel any sympathy for the Germans and Japanese of the time and I understand why Chinese people and Jew etc would still have a hatred for them.

Davelarson

Davelarson wrote: »

Yes I am aware of that...I don't feel any sympathy for the Germans and Japanese of the time and I understand why Chinese people and Jew etc would still have a hatred for them.

So you would also not feel sympathy for Sophie Scholl, because she was a german at that time??

mud_guard

HansHolzel wrote: »

"There's only one Paki Bonner!" - the Hill 16 taunting of Meath goalie Kevin McQuillan after he made a similar handling boo-boo to the clanger in the 1990 World Cup.

packie bonner was a pretty average keeper in truth , my granny could get up quicker and she,s been dead since 1999

sabat

cletus van damme wrote: »

It's a corruption of the word "French" (i've been told) who colonised siam in the day.

This never happened...

Davelarson

riffmongous wrote: »

So you would also not feel sympathy for Sophie Scholl, because she was a german at that time??

Sure there were good Germans but do I feel sympathy for the German people as a whole? No.

The Nazi regime couldn't have existed without the support of the German people. They reaped what they sowed.

endacl

LordSutch wrote: »

What about Sambo?

Ham sambo, or cheese?

positron

Public Service Announcement for boardsies:

1. The term "Paki" is derogatory racist slur. Never use it if you respect yourself etc etc.

2. A large number of South Asian folks you see here and elsewhere may not be Pakistani to start with. They could be Bangladeshi's, Sri Lankans but more often than not - Indians. Especially so in IT industry, medical staff etc. And Indians generally absolutely dislike Pakistan (for historic reasons, two or three wars, terrorism originating from there despite pretending to be pals with US, for conspiring with China, for spreading nuclear weapons to rogue states etc etc, list goes on and on). It's bit like telling an Irish man that he's English. Like calling a Welsh man English. It's like calling a Chinese man a Jap. It's like calling a Polish Jew a Nazi. Like calling a proud Texan a Mexican etc etc. You get the idea.

End of Public Service Announcement. Continue as you were.

fryup

a scene from the funniest movie ever...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPS6vqigI8c

keeponhurling

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It's like Jap. In America it's considered a pretty big slur. Here, not so much[/quote]

I was wondering that, is it just short for Japanese or is it racist

keeponhurling

Davelarson wrote: »

Which raises the question; is it ok to hate a race if they committed atrocities against your people?

Definitely not.
In fact, if you have "matured as a nation" you should over compensate a bit, treat their heads if states like heroes, fawn over them etc.

endacl

keeponhurling wrote: »

Definitely not.
In fact, if you have "matured as a nation" you should over compensate a bit, treat their heads if states like heroes, fawn over them etc.

As in 'get over it'?

wp_rathead

keeponhurling wrote: »

I was wondering that, is it just short for Japanese or is it racist

it is idiotic and rather derogatory

keeponhurling

I've an Indian friend who calls them Pakis.

Either
1 it's ok in India to use that word
2 he's racist against Pakis, although given they have same skin color as him I'm not sure I'd say he can be racist, though maybe you can be racist against yourself
3 Paki could be a xenophobic word

wp_rathead

keeponhurling wrote: »

I've an Indian friend who calls them Pakis.

Either
1 it's ok in India to use that word
2 he's racist against Pakis, although given they have same skin color as him I'm not sure I'd say he can be racist, though maybe you can be racist against yourself
3 Paki could be a xenophobic word

bit of light reading for you about India and Pakistan conflicts

LordSutch

positron wrote: »

Public Service Announcement for boardsies:

1. The term "Paki" is derogatory racist slur. Never use it if you respect yourself etc etc.

It's bit like telling an Irish man that he's English. Like calling a Welsh man English. It's like calling a Chinese man a Jap. It's like calling a Polish Jew a Nazi. Like calling a proud Texan a Mexican etc etc. You get the idea.

End of Public Service Announcement. Continue as you were.

Do you honestly think that calling an Irish or Welsh man 'English' is comparable to talling a Pole or a Jew that they're a Nazi?

Are English people really comparable to Nazi's? I suspect you got carried away with your analogies.

endacl

wprathead wrote: »

bit of light reading for you about India and Pakistan conflicts

Ah don't. He'll be back on later saying it was all the queen's fault...

Marcus Halberstram

Mint Aero

wprathead wrote: »

it is idiotic and rather derogatory

Why?

wp_rathead

LordSutch wrote: »

Do you honestly think that calling an Irish or Welsh man 'English' is comparable to talling a Pole or a Jew that they're a Nazi?

Are English people really comparable to Nazi's? I suspect you got carried away with your analogies.

don't think that is what positron intended, he meant that calling an Indian person a "paki" is insulting to an Indian as he is not Pakistani - and India and Pakistan has alot of history of wars (like Ireland and Britain, and Poland and, well everwhere)

Don't think he was comparaing Britain to Nazi regieme

endacl

Mint Aero wrote: »

Why?

Remember the no-foreign-games-in-Croke-Park sign holder photographed wearing a celtic shirt yet utterly missing the irony? That sort of fine young genius tend to use the term 'Brit' in a particular context.

Same reason.

wp_rathead

Mint Aero wrote: »

Why?

didn't think I'd have to explain it tbh, but:

Paki acquired offensive connotations in the 1960s when used by British tabloids to refer to subjects of former colony states in a derogatory and racist manner. In modern British usage "Paki" is typically a derogatory label used for all South Asians, including Indians, Afghans and Bangladeshis. To a lesser extent, it has also been applied to Arabs and others perceived to resemble South Asians. During the 60's many emigrants were also dubbed as "black" to further segregate them from the white community. Some would say such a division still exists in parts of England.
In recent times there has been a trend by second and third-generation British Pakistanis to reclaim the word, so that it can be used between young British Pakistanis, but not by outsiders, even Indians and Bangladeshis

LordSutch

wprathead wrote: »

Don't think he was comparaing Britain to Nazi regieme

Agreed, but his wording had me scratching my head.

Good night.

Mint Aero

keeponhurling wrote: »

I was wondering that, is it just short for Japanese or is it racist

wprathead wrote: »

it is idiotic and rather derogatory

Why?

wprathead wrote: »

didn't think I'd have to explain it tbh, but:

I'll ask again for your benefit. I didn't ask anything about paki there.

Grayditch

It doesn't take me long to add the two extra syllables, Sta-Ni, to avoid sounding like a racist, so I just go with that. Mostly, I don't like the look, or sound of the shortened one, because I can't ever remember it being used by someone not being racist. I don't have to really use the word Pakistani that much, so I like to use the full word when I get a chance. Pakistani. Pakistan. I like the word a lot, actually. Heeeeeee's aaa Sharp Dressed Man From Pakistan.

Mint Aero

endacl wrote: »

Remember the no-foreign-games-in-Croke-Park sign holder photographed wearing a celtic shirt yet utterly missing the irony? That sort of fine young genius tend to use the term 'Brit' in a particular context.

Same reason.

Funny, I use the term Brit as endearment as I would with scot, yank, jap. I even dont mind being called a Paddy myself really. Each to their own.

Davelarson

wprathead wrote: »

it is idiotic and rather derogatory

Yes why don't you explain to us why 'jap' is so evil and racist and we must never use it?

wp_rathead

Mint Aero wrote: »

I'll ask again for your benefit. I didn't ask anything about paki there.

apologies

Later popularized during World War II to describe those of Japanese descent, "Jap" was then commonly used in newspaper headlines to refer to the Japanese and Imperial Japan. "Jap" became a derogatory term during the war, more so than "Nip." Veteran and author Paul Fussell explains the usefulness of the word during the war for creating effective propaganda by saying that "Japs" "was a brisk monosyllable handy for slogans like 'Rap the Jap' or 'Let's Blast the Jap Clean Off the Map.'" Some in the United States Marine Corps tried to combine the word "Japs" with "apes" to create a new description, "Japes", for the Japanese; this neologism never became popular.

In the United States the term is now considered derogatory; the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary notes it is "usually disparaging".