Nokia Lumia 2520 Tablet

Davy

As this is due in a few weeks thought it was time to give it a thread.

One model with 4 colours, Black, White, Cyan and Red. Video shows 8gb card being added, but 32gb is supported with the 32gb internal. 4G, NFC, HERE maps as standard. The power keyboard will be separate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qppJV4znI4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFXRYrZFxsg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJCepkb3vGM

Specifications
Full Spec List

Display
Display size: 10.1 ''
Display technology: ClearBlack, IPS LCD
Touch screen technology: Capacitive Multipoint-Touch

Photography
Primary camera sensor size: 6.7 MP
ZEISS optics: Yes

Power management
Maximum standby time: 25 days
Battery capacity: 8000 mAh
LTE max data speed DL: 150 Mbps

Processor
Processor name: Qualcomm Snapdragon™ 800
Processor type: Quad-core 2.2 GHz

wheresmybeaver

Looks nice, if you like the style of the Lumia range (which I do).

It'll be interesting to see how it compares to the Surface 2 performance wise. Based on the videos above I would say the Surface 2 keyboard is neater and more useful. At least you can buy the Surface 2 without the keyboard and it still has a kickstand - lack of stand was a major PITA when I got my Nexus 7 last year and even having tried a few different covers / stands it's still not ideal.

I wonder will this be available at retail like the Surface, or strictly with a 3G / 4G contract in phone shops?

jimmynokia

As to performance i find it better than any of the surface tabs.The keyboard is also quite good.
If you like the surface you will like this,just a matter of ones preference.

droidman123

Anyone know when or where it is available in Ireland?

Griffinx

Does anyone know if this will be on sale here carrier free? price? before Christmas?

Davy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9PSnkVZ8So

Griffinx

Here we go, launching in UK next week for £399 (€480) not bad price I suppose.

http://www.t3.com/news/nokia-lumia-2520-on-sale-december-4th

fits

Woah, its 650 here. http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/12206/dqdjc/Nokia-Lumia-2520-LTE-tabletti-vari-punainen-kiiltava

jimmynokia

The KB is £150 which is mad!:eek:

Griffinx

jimmynokia wrote: »

The KB is £150 which is mad!:eek:

Hopefully they'll bundle it by Christmas

jimmynokia

Griffinx wrote: »

Hopefully they'll bundle it by Christmas

Should be bundled now imo, makes it more attractive for consumers.

wheresmybeaver

jimmynokia wrote: »

Should be bundled now imo, makes it more attractive for consumers.

Seems that Nokia are bundling the keyboard for some buyers, which is a good move. Hopefully that will be applied over here too.

I've read a couple of reviews and generally it seems to be a good tablet, but the keyboard cover is bulky and heavy. Which is a shame as you'll probably need it a lot since you won't have a kickstand built into the actual unit.

Additionally you're paying extra for the LTE / 4G feature, so it would be a waste to buy one if you're going to just be using it at home all the time - you'll want a data plan. The current Irish 4g plans are looking to be pricey (especially once the introductory periods are over).

I dunno I'm still thinking that the Surface 2 is better value for money, especially if you don't need to buy a keyboard accessory. 200GB Skydrive is a nice bonus too..

jimmynokia

its a great tablet and the kb is too.
be interesting to see who picks it up here or who sells it.

ronanc1000

It's good to see that UK customers are able to buy this tablet now before Christmas thanks to John Lewis. Usually availability there means soon to arrive here, but I'm thinking stores here would need to have the 2520 stocked within the next 10 days to catch that Christmas buying market.

There's been no real mention of availability pre Xmas from stores here, not looking good for us at the moment.

When it does arrive here I've to agree with jimmynokia on this, interested to see who stocks it , I imagine it will be two to three stores at least maybe currys/pc world and maybe one mobile carrier when first released.

There should definitely be a bundle of the Lumia 2520 with Power Keyboard but there will be a presumed €470 minimum price tag attached.
If its not out here within the next 10 days, it will hit stores post Xmas.

I'm going to add that some stores will see that selling the 2520 pre Xmas won't make a difference to them. As much as we know and love this tab, unfortunately the general public will still want the larger known iPad etc which stores will drive to sell more of forgetting Nokia's first tablet, for Christmas time which is not good for the future growth of this tablet and the windows os in general which is unfortunate.

jimmynokia

Thing is operators never pushed tablets they should start to do bundle deals now like other regions do ,it makes it far more attractive and desirable.
If anyone will sell it it will be 02 or cpw.
Maybe if the operators do wake up and do bundled packages it will take off.

droidman123

If it was going to be available here pre-christmas I would guess pc world or whoever would be taking preorders,so it doesn't look good.surely the worst time to launch a new product is the months following Christmas.

ronanc1000

We'll just have to wait and see if there is any news within the next week to ten days from stores here on a pre Xmas sale. Otherwise, wait until hopefully January when it could go on sale. Another option is to take the plunge and buy it from John Lewis, if thats even possible. But your looking at €500 with shipping etc.

droidman123

ronanc1000 wrote: »

We'll just have to wait and see if there is any news within the next week to ten days from stores here on a pre Xmas sale. Otherwise, wait until hopefully January when it could go on sale. Another option is to take the plunge and buy it from John Lewis, if thats even possible. But your looking at €500 with shipping etc.

I don't think they deliver electronic goods to Ireland,maybe a parcel motel job.

Davy

John Lewis will only have red and black for launch also which won't suit many people.

The other matter with this tablet, I could be gone before it takes off with RT looking dead from next year

jimmynokia

Davy wrote: »

John Lewis will only have red and black for launch also which won't suit many people.

The other matter with this tablet, I could be gone before it takes off with RT looking dead from next year

Red aint bad,better than black! I like the cyan one

Davy

jimmynokia wrote: »

Red aint bad,better than black! I like the cyan one

If going glossy, I would prefer white on this, and I don't go for white on any device. I think the gloss red is too strong on such a large device. A matt red and glossy cyan might have been better. Of course to make matters worse the keyboards are only red and black

Griffinx

Davy wrote: »

The other matter with this tablet, I could be gone before it takes off with RT looking dead from next year

Likely they will merge Windows Phone & RT...wonder will they upgrade the 2520/surface 2 to the new merged OS

Griffinx

John Lewis now have an offer on the 2520

Special offer

Special Offer: Free £25 Microsoft App Store gift card included with the purchase of this item.

Offer ends 12th January 2014. While stocks last

Davy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDFWqBfLU6Q

Strangest ad award

jimmynokia

i think its cool.. whats so strange?

Griffinx

Picked up mine in Edinburg at the weekend.

Liking it so far

Davy

jimmynokia wrote: »

i think its cool.. whats so strange?

I agree with the idea of the ad, I think its a bit 'childish' for a want of a better word. The animation doesn't make me think of a high quality product, and don't get me wrong I have used my 2520 outside alongside an iPad and think the 2520 is better just think the execution of the ad was lacking.

evolutionqy7

jimmynokia wrote: »

i think its cool.. whats so strange?

Wouldn't go as far as calling it strange, but seems a little bit too long and pointless. Think real life examples are better than something drawn up in a cartoon. It barely shows the device too.

jimmynokia

Davy wrote: »

I agree with the idea of the ad, I think its a bit 'childish' for a want of a better word. The animation doesn't make me think of a high quality product, and don't get me wrong I have used my 2520 outside alongside an iPad and think the 2520 is better just think the execution of the ad was lacking.

Cant take everything in life as real,this is just a novel ad pointing out in a simple way as to how the 2520 works outdoors,it does as it says on the tin in reality i have used it indoors,outdoors and took it for a spin testing the game (dragons adventure) worked flawlessly.

jimmynokia

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Wouldn't go as far as calling it strange, but seems a little bit too long and pointless. Think real life examples are better than something drawn up in a cartoon. It barely shows the device too.

If if was too short what would be something else,what is a correct video duration time then?
I also like the music in this just to rub it in,but to be impartial like any other device it has its flaws.Davy would probably conclude with me on that,depending on how long he has used it.

ronanc1000

I think the add is rubbish. For such a great product at launch and one to take on the iPad, its a real let down tbh. For such a premium product its needs something more real, to show off the device. That add doesn't represent the 2520 very well.

AlmightyCushion

I'm not a fan of the ad. I don't mind that it's cartooney and it does get it's point across well but I just don't think it sells the device enough. Do many people really use their tablet in direct sunlight? I don't think so. They should really be showing off more features of the device in the ad. Hopefully, this is just one of many that all show off a different feature of the device.

Davy

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I'm not a fan of the ad. I don't mind that it's cartooney and it does get it's point across well but I just don't think it sells the device enough. Do many people really use their tablet in direct sunlight? I don't think so. They should really be showing off more features of the device in the ad. Hopefully, this is just one of many that all show off a different feature of the device.

I dont always use in direct sunlight, but would normally a few times a week. I had been using the iPad as the device and did find it annoying at times, but my point was more about the ad itself rather than the function of the device.

The device is much better in plenty of aspects than the iPad but i dont really see it in the same market tbh, but there has been plenty of ads for the 2520 if you search, and they actually showcase the device a little better.

jimmynokia

ronanc1000 wrote: »

I think the add is rubbish. For such a great product at launch and one to take on the iPad, its a real let down tbh. For such a premium product its needs something more real, to show off the device. That add doesn't represent the 2520 very well.

Says the ipad user. :-)

jimmynokia

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I'm not a fan of the ad. I don't mind that it's cartooney and it does get it's point across well but I just don't think it sells the device enough. Do many people really use their tablet in direct sunlight? I don't think so. They should really be showing off more features of the device in the ad. Hopefully, this is just one of many that all show off a different feature of the device.

There has been plenty of ads highlighting the features.

senordingdong

Not a huge fan of the ad, but it really does get the point across.

But unfortunately, I can't say what I would have done to make a better ad.
The tablet doesn't really function in any way different to every other tablet on the market, does it? So what is this devices selling point?

Having a touch screen that can be seen in sunlight is an innovation.
But will it make people hand over cash?

The wireless charging that caused so many heated arguments was also an innovation, but it didn't seem to win them any sales, did it?

Davy

senordingdong wrote: »

But unfortunately, I can't say what I would have done to make a better ad.
The tablet doesn't really function in any way different to every other tablet on the market, does it? So what is this devices selling point?

Having a touch screen that can be seen in sunlight is an innovation.
But will it make people hand over cash?

The wireless charging that caused so many heated arguments was also an innovation, but it didn't seem to win them any sales, did it?

The wireless charging hasn't working because it seems like its not really an addition, they need to drive home more how it is an addition. I didn't really think much of it tbh at first, but since I have got used to it, I find it great and would want it on my devices.


Going back to the tablet, it doesn't function that much different than others on the market, but it does have a lot going for it outside of the app race.


The nokia additions like camera, HERE maps etc will appeal to many, and then people with lumia devices or even windows 8 laptops/desktops may go for it over an iPad because your settings and setup will be common across your devices.

The multitasking is much better because of the split screen using different apps together. On the iPad you would have to keep switching between one to the other all the time. If you were using emails and browsing it can get to be a pain. With the windows os you can have at least some control over it. I know common to other tabs like the surface etc but this is another option.

droidman123

Does anyone know when this tablet will be available to buy in Ireland?

jimmynokia

droidman123 wrote: »

Does anyone know when this tablet will be available to buy in Ireland?

Looking like late Jan, early Feb..

senordingdong

Very unusual time to launch something no?

Hope fully this will turn things around for Nokia here.

jimmynokia

senordingdong wrote: »

Very unusual time to launch something no?

Hope fully this will turn things around for Nokia here.

John lewis has exclusivity. I'm totally against these exclusivity deals. Same how the Americans didn't want to know Nokia lumia, two years ago, now they are getting the cream.

Bagging a network might seem profitable, but keeping exclusives stops putting device's into people's hands, and giving the Americans first pop is not going down well with the European fans, never mind the UK. I'm talking about the phone's and the tab.

I only know a few selected people that have the 2520 here be it publicly known or not, the fact remains people want to buy and people can't here, and have to source elsewhere. No info no nothing, same as to device's, the 1520 for example.
As much as I'm a Nokia fan, tester etc etc I don't hold back on choices made if they are wrong.

Another thing that has been argued is the lumia black for the public, bringing it out direct on device's ie the 1320/1520 etc when it can work on others. You get the point.....

Davy

jimmynokia

Davy wrote: »

WTF?

Davy

jimmynokia wrote: »

WTF?

Thought it was self explanatory, just pointing out the lack of activity in the thread. Thought more would be using it by now.....




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jimmynokia

Davy wrote: »

Thought it was self explanatory, just pointing out the lack of activity in the thread. Thought more would be using it by now.....




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Since none are available here and people are cheesed off is it a wonder. p...

Davy

jimmynokia wrote: »

Since none are available here and people are cheesed off is it a wonder. p...

Ah sure you dont need to have the tablet to discuss it do you? :pac:

Or if anyone is considering one could be particular questions, hence the tumbleweed.

If anyone wants something tried or tested on the 2520 before they decide I dont mind checking, just let me know.

senordingdong

Davy wrote: »

Ah sure you dont need to have the tablet to discuss it do you? :pac:

Or if anyone is considering one could be particular questions, hence the tumbleweed.

If anyone wants something tried or tested on the 2520 before they decide I dont mind checking, just let me know.

I'm in the market for a new tablet so tell me why I should fork out for one of these over the next best thing.

jimmynokia

senordingdong wrote: »

I'm in the market for a new tablet so tell me why I should fork out for one of these over the next best thing.

Has anyone suggested you buy it here?
It's a nice tab the fact that it's RT bothers many.
It's nice that's all I'll say but I have many tablets so each to their own.
Best tablet on market price wise for me is nexus 7.

senordingdong

jimmynokia wrote: »

Has anyone suggested you buy it here?
It's a nice tab the fact that it's RT bothers many.
It's nice that's all I'll say but I have many tablets so each to their own.
Best tablet on market price wise for me is nexus 7.

Nobody has Jimmy, not at all.
Truth is, my want for it is completely superficial.
So I was hoping someone could justify the extra cost for this over say...an MS Surface. (attachable keyboards are still important to me)

jimmynokia

senordingdong wrote: »

Nobody has Jimmy, not at all.
Truth is, my want for it is completely superficial.
So I was hoping someone could justify the extra cost for this over say...an MS Surface. (attachable keyboards are still important to me)

It's really down to what suits the individual, as you know the keyboards are not available yet to the public nor is the dam tablet here. We have to go other routes to get it.
It's nice slightly overpriced imo.

senordingdong

jimmynokia wrote: »

It's really down to what suits the individual, as you know the keyboards are not available yet to the public nor is the dam tablet here. We have to go other routes to get it.
It's nice slightly overpriced imo.

No, but they are available to someone that wants them enough.
He simply asked me to ask, and I was just hoping he could answer.