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Am inclined to agree kit3
I think a lot of it is to do with how you as a person approach it and how you take it. In my earlier days here I had a bit of a siege mentality. This place was full of patronising, elitist people who were at times very ignorant to slower runners. Turns out most of the people I had formed that opinion of were actually the most helpful on the forum - and I only got to form that opinion because they had bothered to interact a bit with topics about slower / improving running in general. I think I even had a go at Krusty FFS
. That's not to say there weren't some assholes around of course. 
You get them everywhere but when my approach to things changed that's when the real positives of the people I may have previously considered as stand offish elites became apparent.
As for the change in the last few months. It has been a huge improvement on the crap that had engulfed the forum back then. Don't want to get into it again but just to say I believe that the forum spirit and overall goodness as it is now is the same as the forum was say a year ago before that blow up. Unfortunately we lost a few great contributors and helpers to those slower runners in the middle of it which is still a great shame. But for now this place is the best place to be for newer and slower runners without a shadow of a doubt.0 -
Pacing Mule wrote: »^^^^
Am inclined to agree kit3
I think a lot of it is to do with how you as a person approach it and how you take it. In my earlier days here I had a bit of a siege mentality. This place was full of patronising, elitist people who were at times very ignorant to slower runners. Turns out most of the people I had formed that opinion of were actually the most helpful on the forum - and I only got to form that opinion because they had bothered to interact a bit with topics about slower / improving running in general. I think I even had a go at Krusty FFS. That's not to say there weren't some assholes around of course. You get them everywhere but when my approach to things changed that's when the real positives of the people I may have previously considered as stand offish elites became apparent.
As for the change in the last few months. It has been a huge improvement on the crap that had engulfed the forum back then. Don't want to get into it again but just to say I believe that the forum spirit and overall goodness as it is now is the same as the forum was say a year ago before that blow up. Unfortunately we lost a few great contributors and helpers to those slower runners in the middle of it which is still a great shame. But for now this place is the best place to be for newer and slower runners without a shadow of a doubt.
I'm more talking about the banter on the logs not on main threads. Even in a social sense people of varying abilities seem to chat more.0 -
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Chivito550 wrote: »I've honestly never noticed any such social divide between faster runners and slower ones. The use of the term elites and elitism always amuses me as there are no elites posting here. There used to be, years ago, but not anymore.
As for banter on training logs it can be good for camaraderie alright but on the flip side it comes across clicky to some, and more importantly any useful training info gets lost in what essentially is spam. Claralara's log was an example of one which I just couldn't read because all the golden info on how to make such impressive improvements and how to get the best out of oneself was completely lost in all the junk banter.
There are a few who lurk
To be honest I think this comes down to the style of the log and the poster and what they want to get out of their log.
Some people use it to store their training, effectively replacing the old pen and paper in case they would get lost, some have a more creative side and like the narrative, others want to share their training for others to learn from, others are looking for guidance on their training and some are looking for the social media aspect for motivation or just general interaction.
Over the last few years the migration of discussion has been towards the logs to the point now where the main forum is not utilized as much as it used to be, I think there are a few reasons for this but as such people almost had to be more active in finding the discussion that they used to find on the main page, I am not sure if this is a positive or negative as there are valid points for either but I think alot of it is just the general evolution of the forum.
Training talk has also evolved from more theoretical conversations to using specific case examples via the logs for discussion, better for the person seeking advice without a doubt but it doesn't really create much of a debate about training idea's.0 -
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Flash backs. That wasn't me by any chance? It sounds eerily familiar....
Ha, yes that was you. Don't worry, as I said, I never had a problem with the comment - it was your opinion and I think my answer at the time was that I was only in competition with myself & I intended to enjoy trying to improve whether that happened or not. I never even came close to thinking of boiling your bunny 0 -
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Ha, yes that was you. Don't worry, as I said, I never had a problem with the comment - it was your opinion and I think my answer at the time was that I was only in competition with myself & I intended to enjoy trying to improve whether that happened or not. I never even came close to thinking of boiling your bunny
Well, I am sure you'll be happy to know that I have mellowed in my "old age.":)0 -
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On a similar note, this is a rave about the general camaraderie on Boards AR forum these days (despite a few recent scraps but sure they just serve to keep things spicy!).
What I noticed changing in the last few months is more of a community spirit rather than the various factions keeping things between themselves.
When I came on this forum first about 2 years ago it was very segregated between fast runners, middling runners and slow runners. There was very little interaction if any between these groups of posters. The slow spokes stayed together and the whizz kids did their thing. We all read each other's logs but we never posted on a log that we didn't feel we had a 'any business' to post on.
This has changed dramatically in the last few months. Not sure what it's down to exactly but I think it's a few things. I think it's mainly down to a few different relatively new posters who interact with posters on their logs across the board (fast to slow runners) and that serves to bring everyone together more. I hope they don't mind me saying but in the main I think it's due to posters such as TbL, Dubgal & Netwerk Error, and a few more to a lesser extent.
I think the forum is better than ever for this reason!
I'm only new here, but agree about the help on the logs. And you're very much included in that ososlo. Yourself BG and DG are great for keeping us newcomers on track.
The best thing that ever happened was that I injured my foot lol. If I hadn't I'd still be plodding around same as always. Now on the back of meeting ecolii (I asked him for help after raheny and he comes back with a full on 3 month training schedule!!) I have an actual plan, ambitions above me station, even a few race warm up ideas.
I rarely post in the other logs, but read them all the time they are a fantastic resource. I was only looking at Kristy clowns 10k one last night and stumbled on a post where he/she ran from howth to killiney!!! I am definitely adding that to a list of runs I'd love to do in about a year
I can't remember what my point was..but I think the helpfulness around here from the experts is such a great find! 0 -
Would that be Krusty's sister?Hannibal Smith wrote: »
I rarely post in the other logs, but read them all the time they are a fantastic resource. I was only looking at Kristy clowns 10k one last night and stumbled on a post where he/she ran from howth to killiney!!! I am definitely adding that to a list of runs I'd love to do in about a year
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