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MLB: 2013-2014 Off-season - Pre-season

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    So Miggy just got paid...the Tigers are definitely in win now mode. Some of these contracts may not look so good in a few years though...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Coeus wrote: »
    So Miggy just got paid...the Tigers are definitely in win now mode. Some of these contracts may not look so good in a few years though...

    300 million for a 31 year old may seem crazy in a few years but he is unbelievable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    300 million for a 31 year old may seem crazy in a few years but he is unbelievable.

    All in for now and not worrying about down the road. If it works and they win a World Series or two over the next few years they won't mind paying him when he can't play like a superstar anymore.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    Coeus wrote: »
    So Miggy just got paid...the Tigers are definitely in win now mode. Some of these contracts may not look so good in a few years though...

    Yeah, this seems completely bonker.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    300 million for a 31 year old may seem crazy in a few years but he is unbelievable.

    It's not the amount as much as the years. 30m/year is wackadoo.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭MoyVilla9


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    It's not the amount as much as the years. 30m/year is wackadoo.

    30m/year for 5 years would be a very good deal in my opinion. "Very" taken in context, obviously.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Apart from Cabrera the big winners here are Harper and Trout. What are they going to get on their contracts?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭rockonollie


    I'm just waiting for the collapse......it can't go on like this....on this trend you'll see the likes of Trout end up closer to $350million........adding $10-$15 million to the contract price every time a big player re-signs just isn't sustainable.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    I'm just waiting for the collapse......it can't go on like this....on this trend you'll see the likes of Trout end up closer to $350million........adding $10-$15 million to the contract price every time a big player re-signs just isn't sustainable.

    The collapse is on a team by team, owner by owner basis. It happened for the Red Sox when they shipped 300m of salary to the Dodgers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Apart from Cabrera the big winners here are Harper and Trout. What are they going to get on their contracts?

    Looks like half of that questions been answered. Trout, 6 years $144.5m extension.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭MoyVilla9


    Looks like half of that questions been answered. Trout, 6 years $144.5m extension.

    That brings Trout into free agency when he is 29. Start the saving fund now, Angels.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    Looks like half of that questions been answered. Trout, 6 years $144.5m extension.
    That was the deal that was been discussed all spring. Giving the sort of contracts been handed out of late, I guess its a good deal for both sides. Trout gets paid now rather than waiting for FA, as mentioned he will only be 29 so young enough to get one of those crazy contracts himself when the time comes. The Angels have a MVP calibre talent locked in for the next 6 years and plenty of time to hammer out an extension.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Coeus wrote: »
    Trout gets paid now rather than waiting for FA, as mentioned he will only be 29 so young enough to get one of those crazy contracts himself when the time comes.

    And God knows what the going rate for these 10 year contracts for 30 year olds will be then!


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    In other news Grady Sizemore will be the Red Sox opening center fielder! :)

    So far there's been no setbacks and he ended up batting .330 in Spring Training.

    And Xander Bogarts has really come alive the last few weeks.

    This is gonna be a great year.

    Oh yeah, and Stephen Drew is still without a home. How odd.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    In other news Grady Sizemore will be the Red Sox opening center fielder! :)

    So far there's been no setbacks and he ended up batting .330 in Spring Training.

    And Xander Bogarts has really come alive the last few weeks.

    This is gonna be a great year.

    Oh yeah, and Stephen Drew is still without a home. How odd.

    So your a Red Sox fan right? And Drew was an essential part of winning it all last season,I would be eternally grateful to a player who helped my club win it all but I guess thats just us non successful club fans


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    So your a Red Sox fan right? And Drew was an essential part of winning it all last season,I would be eternally grateful to a player who helped my club win it all but I guess thats just us non successful club fans

    The Sox made him an offer, he refused.

    You'll find that other players are taking salary cuts to STAY with the Sox, because it's a special club. Drew and his agent Boras, rejected am offer that was fair to the team and to the fans, and Drew has even said he regrets that decision.

    So yeah, you need to look into this a bit more.

    http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2014/03/random_spring_training_red_sox_thoughts.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    The Sox made him an offer, he refused.

    You'll find that other players are taking salary cuts to STAY with the Sox, because it's a special club. Drew and his agent Boras, rejected am offer that was fair to the team and to the fans, and Drew has even said he regrets that decision.

    So yeah, you need to look into this a bit more.

    http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2014/03/random_spring_training_red_sox_thoughts.html

    Just a personal thing I would just be grateful for the job the player did last season and wish him all the best in his future endeavours. Drew may regret not signing but I'm sure he'll land somewhere.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    Just a personal thing I would just be grateful for the job the player did last season and wish him all the best in his future endeavours. Drew may regret not signing but I'm sure he'll land somewhere.

    They were grateful enough to offer him a 5M raise.

    He thought he could do better and walked when the club refused to be held ransom... they have deep prospects and getting in deep with a shortstop that limits their ability to use their prospects is a silly move.

    He turned down 15M and won't be playing baseball on opening day.

    For comparison, David Ortiz makes 15M and Pedroia makes 13M.

    Who in their right mind thinks Drew is more valuable than either of those guys?

    Scott Boras.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    They were grateful enough to offer him a 5M raise.

    He thought he could do better and walked when the club refused to be held ransom... they have deep prospects and getting in deep with a shortstop that limits their ability to use their prospects is a silly move.

    He turned down 15M and won't be playing baseball on opening day.

    For comparison, David Ortiz makes 15M and Pedroia makes 13M.

    Who in their right mind thinks Drew is more valuable than either of those guys?

    Scott Boras.

    to each their own like I said its just a personal thing I would just be happy to have won a WS and would be eternally grateful to the player for the part he played.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,351 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    to each their own like I said its just a personal thing I would just be happy to have won a WS and would be eternally grateful to the player for the part he played.

    We all wish Jacoby Ellsbury well this year also....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    8-10 wrote: »
    We all wish Jacoby Ellsbury well this year also....

    Good to hear 8-10, good to hear!


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    to each their own like I said its just a personal thing I would just be happy to have won a WS and would be eternally grateful to the player for the part he played.

    Being eternally grateful and making bad decisions for the club are different things... they offered him a good deal - better than anyone else has - and he walked... no one is ungrateful; that's you projecting onto the situation...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    Being eternally grateful and making bad decisions for the club are different things... they offered him a good deal - better than anyone else has - and he walked... no one is ungrateful; that's you projecting onto the situation...

    me commenting on your snide remark on Drew is hardly projecting now is it.

    But enough of that its Opening DAY!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭rockonollie


    Pre-season officially over......death to this thread....PLAY BALL!


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    me commenting on your snide remark on Drew is hardly projecting now is it.

    But enough of that its Opening DAY!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D

    I assume this was the remark that set you off?:
    Oh yeah, and Stephen Drew is still without a home. How odd.

    Not sure how that could be considered "snide" and in fact I think that even more projecting on your part, but hey it's opening day. Live and let live.


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