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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭ diego_b

    Feck, that's a right sickener now...very sorry to hear that.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭ Laineyfrecks

    Really sorry to hear this A, hope you get sorted🤗

  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭ Unknownability

    Sorry to hear that, hope you're doing OK.

    I was following your training closely.

  • Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭ babacool

    I hear ya! Onwards and upwards! The training will stand to you! And I know how you feel! I’m an 85% drop out at the moment. Only a miracle healing will get me to run Sunday.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭ Dubh Geannain

    Awful luck. The closer to the day this stuff happens the worse it is. Get yourself better anyway.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭ Kellygirl

    Oh no. I’m gutted for you. That is awful news. Are you totally ruled out or do you think you might possibly be ok to run?

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭ Wubble Wubble

    Ah man that's cruel. Very sorry to hear! Best of luck with the recovery.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭ MisterDrak

    Really sorry to hear that Alan. Very tough to take with the consistant quality and volume of your training...

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭ Lazare

    Can't believe I've read that. Really really gutted. The work you've put in.

    As others have asked, are you totally ruling things out?

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,383 ✭✭✭ Mr. Guappa

    Balls. Sorry to read that.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭ healy1835

    I come back on here only to be met with this disappointing news 😭 in all seriousness though, you're in a great space head-wise about it. Onwards and upwards pal.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭ coogy

    Ah no! Very sorry to read this, hope all goes ok!

  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭ Runster

    I know exactly how you feel, I got an abscess like that on Christmas day. I ended up on two really strong antibiotics at the same time because

    the inflammation was so bad. You could actually heat your hand from my cheek without even touching it, it was a mad infection. Then I got it drained but didn't get the tooth out or get the root canal straight away.

    What happened? I ended up in the same scenario a month later except this time the dentist wanted to send me to St James hospital it was so bad.

    Whatever you do, get the tooth itself treated as soon as possible.

    It would be possible to run the marathon but you may still be on antibiotics and not sure if you got the tooth itself treated yet?

    There's probably a chance of causing it to come back with a vengeance if you run with the tooth not treated.

    All the energy required to run the marathon will be stopping the healing and you could end up in a very bad way.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭ scotindublin

    Gutted to read this, get yourself on the mend and hopefully see you at Jingle Bells

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭ Swashbuckler

    Decent looking plan there and rightly the marathon plan is way out there so its a bit tentative....

    Enjoy some low pressure racing in the short term although knowing you you'll still put pressure on yourself!

  • Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭ babacool

    I was wondering if I would see you at the masters indoors (nationals and/or Leinster) next year. Doesn’t seem like.

    an honest approach in trim. Depending on how training goes and if it doesn’t clash with anything I am always happy to pace 🙂. Just putting that out there. 😉

  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭ Taxes

    Mate, I think you made a mistake by doing the 40km ‘training run’ it was out of kilter from the rest of your training and you paid the price.

    You began to encounter all of your issues shortly thereafter.

  • Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭ babacool

    Looking forward to AMK’s response to that 😁.

    personally I’d say there was nothing wrong with that 40k run. Could have done with a bit slower but overall not really. And the build up to it was there (from what I can tell). Think there is a debate out there that says “runners get their best marathon race 6 weeks after a failed marathon race”. Seeing the 40k run was 6 weeks out, I’d say I see why it’s been on the plan.

    interesting debate though (perhaps) 😁

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭ AuldManKing

    I'm always interested in others opinions and generally don't get defensive - so I'm all ears on this.

    In fairness - you aren't wrong - I got a bad headcold soon afterwards, driven primarily by my wife and 2 daughters all being on antibiotics for similar. I didn't go down the antibiotic route as it would have knocked my training.

    The abscess came as a result of a chipped tooth 6-7 weeks previously, I didn't act on it and bacteria built up, causing infection.

    So for my illnesses, there's context. I accept that my immune system may have been lower as a result of the 40k run.

    The 'thing' with the 40k run is that it is used by all my coaches' athletes with good success. He follows a Canova type approach, modified for hobby joggers like myself.

    I'm very interested to hear your approach to Marathon training - your posts on my log prior to DCM certainly perked my interest.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭ Swashbuckler

    And he/she did commit to coming back after DCM to engage on this very subject...let's have it!

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭ healy1835

    Maybe g00gLe (or whoever that guy was) has made a comeback too 😛😂 it is the fashionable thing to do on this forum these days you know...

  • Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭ babacool

    In Fairness @Taxes said he/she will give feedback after AMK completed dcm. Since he didn’t, he can’t give feedback 😉

  • Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭ babacool

    What I find interesting with you or swashbuckler is that you seem to try all those books, methods, approaches etc but neither gives that kipchoge build up a go (adjusted to own pace and at the end of good base builder that probably requires 6months of continuous and controlled training).

    why is that?

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭ AuldManKing

    I wouldn't dare approach a program designed for an elite without the guidance of a very good coach.

    Even with a coach - if you strip down a program where 120m per week are the norm - the sessions would look totally different.

    I'm quite ok with Jack Daniels - which I know is very effective for me - especially at shorter distances. I've used this extensively for past 3-4 years with a couple of deviations where I had 2 different coaches. If I wasn't being coached now - I'd be following a JD plan more than likely.

    My current coach follows a Canova/Tinman approach, adapted for us mortal's that has shown success with his crop of Athletes.

  • Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭ babacool

    oh I wouldn’t dare doing the elite plan on elite mileage. I would probably bring it down to time rather than distance. As in if the elite spends 10hrs running covering 150miles I would probably still spend 10hrs but cover a lot less distance. Not sure if the benefit is the same though but definitely something that’s in the back of my mind: one day I will go through that plan and see how a mortal can cope 😂. But for that day to come the little one needs to be a bit older

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭ Swashbuckler

    You've pigeon holed me completely there 🤣...I had a coach for 4 years, one Daniels plan and the rest self coached but same principles that luke applied. I read books but haven't applied any of the plans.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,028 ✭✭✭✭ Murph_D

    To be fair the question seemed... underdeveloped? Maybe @babacool can phrase it in a different way?