Why do Irish People stand on escalators in such an arsed-way manner?

April O Neill

No, because it's a stupid thing to do and really annoys normal people

LorMal wrote: »

Tetchy.

:pac:

Sam Kade

LorMal wrote: »

I was joking, relax.

So was I

Zillah

April O Neill wrote: »

That outside of busy train stations, standing of less than a minute won't kill you. If you can't wait, as previously suggested, use the always-available stairs.

It's not a rule here, and we don't tend to have the crazily busy stations of big cities. People are not doing anything wrong.

Oh noes, you have to stand on an escalator in a shopping centre for 40 seconds. If this bugs you, I envy your worry-free existence.

Again, you're not actually arguing anything other than "shure it won't kill you!", which can be said about anything that won't literally kill you, and is frequently the last resort of someone who hasn't thought about their position at all.

There isn't always an easily accessible stairs. I don't like wasting time. No it won't kill me, but then again, staff in a shop not saying please and thank you won't kill us either but we agree it is better.

Stand to one side and you can stand there and I can go past you - what possible reason would you have to oppose that?

LorMal

No, but I don't judge those who do

keithclancy wrote: »

I wouldn't really agree, I find people in high density population cities rude, not one particular nationality

Not really anything to do with being Dutch.

I'm guessing you lived in the Randstad then ?

Please ignore my rant. Yes I lived in the Randstad. I just had a lot of very unpleasant treatment at the hands of the Dutch, I'm afraid, and it has made me a bitter and twisted middle aged man!
I was mugged and stabbed for 30 euro, three different landlords over the 5 years did not return my deposits after the rental term (and I left the apartments in pristine condition), a shop keeper roared at my little girl (she was 18 months old) for taking a sweet from a display in the shop, i was pushed and jostled on a daily basis on the trams/metro etc, my new car was scraped with a nail/ screw all along the side..twice!, witnessed countless acts of incredibly stingy and very rude behaviour...
The cheese was nice though.

LorMal

No, but I don't judge those who do

Sam Kade wrote: »

So was I

Cool:)

Cody Pomeray

No, but I don't judge those who do

Zillah wrote: »

There isn't always an easily accessible stairs. I don't like wasting time. No it won't kill me, but then again, staff in a shop not saying please and thank you won't kill us either but we agree it is better.

Good comparison.

True, it's only polite to be aware of others around you, on an escalator, who may seem to want to go by. We can indeed agree it is better to be mindful of these people, and I have been one of these people myself many times.

Nevertheless, most of us are, rightly, bemused by the escalator joggers who respond with such passive aggressive outrage.

It's exactly akin to passive aggressive outrage when someone is accidentally, or even knowingly, unkind to you in a shop.

Wow, who cares? Move on. Maybe take the stairs, or say 'excuse me please?' and 'thanks'. Fuming in silence, or taking to boards.ie, and a 17 page thread, at that, is hardly a suitable response.

Greenmachine

So many ignorant actions by a number of posters loitering on the escalators. If your not in a rush go get an icecream and when you are ready to get moving join the escalator or take the stairs as slowly as you like. If you have too many bags some shopping maybe you should have returned to the city etc. another day since you have so much time to spare. In all seriousness just stand to one side, and don't stare at me like I have two heads when I have to unnecessarily ask you to step to one side. Every other city outside of Ireland I have traveled to has an etiquette regarding which side to stand on.

April O Neill

No, because it's a stupid thing to do and really annoys normal people

Zillah wrote: »

Again, you're not actually arguing anything other than "shure it won't kill you!"

Bingo. You got it eventually.

keithclancy

No, but I don't judge those who do

LorMal wrote: »

Please ignore my rant. Yes I lived in the Randstad. I just had a lot of very unpleasant treatment at the hands of the Dutch, I'm afraid, and it has made me a bitter and twisted middle aged man!
I was mugged and stabbed for 30 euro, three different landlords over the 5 years did not return my deposits after the rental term (and I left the apartments in pristine condition), a shop keeper roared at my little girl (she was 18 months old) for taking a sweet from a display in the shop, i was pushed and jostled on a daily basis on the trams/metro etc, my new car was scraped with a nail/ screw all along the side..twice!, witnessed countless acts of incredibly stingy and very rude behaviour...
The cheese was nice though.

Yeh, I had a similar experience in the Hague (although was never stabbed) , pretty unique to that area of the country IMO.

awec

April O Neill wrote: »

That outside of busy train stations, standing of less than a minute won't kill you. If you can't wait, as previously suggested, use the always-available stairs.

It's not a rule here, and we don't tend to have the crazily busy stations of big cities. People are not doing anything wrong.

Oh noes, you have to stand on an escalator in a shopping centre for 40 seconds. If this bugs you, I envy your worry-free existence.

Who are you to dictate that they must wait an extra 40 seconds?

Why can't people just do the decent thing and stand to one side and let others, who may or may not be in a rush, move at the pace at which they wish to move?

April O Neill

No, because it's a stupid thing to do and really annoys normal people

awec wrote: »

Who are you to dictate that they must wait an extra 40 seconds?

Why can't people just do the decent thing and stand to one side and let others, who may or may not be in a rush, move at the pace at which they wish to move?

Take the stairs.

Dictate? :pac: It's *worth* pissing off people who consider that dictation, IMO.

elefant

keithclancy wrote: »

Yeh, I had a similar experience in the Hague (although was never stabbed) , pretty unique to that area of the country IMO.

I've had none of this in Amsterdam- yet.... :eek:

keithclancy

No, but I don't judge those who do

April O Neill wrote: »

Take the stairs.

Dictate? :pac: It's *worth* pissing off people who consider that dictation, IMO.

Yeh, but I'd just say "Excuse me" and if you ignored my request when it was possible for you do so with no inconvenience to yourself I would just barge past you anyway.

Essentially that's the same logic as what you are suggesting.

Legs.Eleven

This debate is never going to end, is it?

Muise...

No, because it's a stupid thing to do and really annoys normal people

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

This debate is never going to end, is it?

not till we ditch the escalators and just use normal stairs to combat laziness, and cannons for the people on terribly important business.

April O Neill

No, because it's a stupid thing to do and really annoys normal people

keithclancy wrote: »

Yeh, but I'd just say "Excuse me" and if you ignored my request when it was possible for you do so with no inconvenience to yourself I would just barge past you anyway.

Essentially that's the same logic as what you are suggesting.

Actually, if someone politely asked me to move out of the way, I'd happily oblige. If someone was rude or narky, however, forget about it. If said person attempted to barge, I'd actually go out of my way to prevent them from getting past. Passes the time on the escalator, ya know loike.

Legs.Eleven

Muise... wrote: »

not till we ditch the escalators and just use normal stairs to combat laziness, and cannons for the people on terribly important business.

:DHAHAHAAHAHA!!! Oh I didn't expect to have an auld belly laugh of a Monday morning!

DaithiMC

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

looks like we're dealing with a real expert in how to board the tube, here.

No, boarding the Tube is not my expertise but reading the f**king signs and listening to the PA are within the grasp of most I'd imagine. The bottom line is that the comparison between what we do here and what is done in the Tube in Britain is moot because THE SIGNS TELL YOU TO STAND THE F*CK ON THE RIGHT TO ALLOW OTHERS TO WALK BY, i.e., they were not all born with or without a "politeness gene"!

keithclancy

No, but I don't judge those who do

April O Neill wrote: »

Actually, if someone politely asked me to move out of the way, I'd happily oblige. If someone was rude or narky, however, forget about it. If said person attempted to barge, I'd actually go out of my way to prevent them from getting past. Passes the time on the escalator, ya know loike.

Or you could just save yourself the hassle and be mindful of others in the first place.

To others, what you are doing could be considered as rude

i.e. I'm blocking your way so you must ask me in a nice way, in a way I deem as polite. If I do not like your request I will intentionally block your path.

Sounds a bit crazy to be honest, hope you don't meet a nutjob of equal proportion that loses the head

awec

April O Neill wrote: »

Take the stairs.

Dictate? :pac: It's *worth* pissing off people who consider that dictation, IMO.

Or you could just be considerate of others in the first place when getting on an escalator?

keithclancy

No, but I don't judge those who do

Sure look at what happens when it gets out of hand !

Sale on in TK Maxx:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbRa3e5lSos

BQQ

I walk on escalators all the time ... in IRELAND :eek:

If someone's in my way, I say "Excuse me please" like any civilised person.


Only in London do you get savages that jab you with umbrellas or just shove you out of the way.
To think there are people here championing the the London style "ettiquette".
They don't know the meaning of the word (probably an anti-French thing)

Muise...

No, because it's a stupid thing to do and really annoys normal people

BQQ wrote: »

I walk on escalators all the time ... in IRELAND :eek:

If someone's in my way, I say "Excuse me please" like any civilised person.


Only in London do you get savages that jab you with umbrellas or just shove you out of the way.
To think there are people here championing the the London style "ettiquette".
They don't know the meaning of the word (probably an anti-French thing)

London Underground etiquette isn't all bad. Escalators aside, it amuses me that on a crowded train you can end up with your face pressed into someone's oxter and you must both pretend that it is absolutely not happening. Heaven forfend a spot of eye contact. :eek:

SpaceTime

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

It's funny but the English try so very hard to be polite in every other context but this one. They just lose it on the escalators in the underground. Prefer it the Irish way when people don't get their knickers in a twist over something so petty.

It's like road rage. The normally passive, polite character turns nasty.

Although, you also have to understand that many Londoners live a horrible life of commuting in tiny, cramped trains in badly ventilated tunnels.
Many of them have very long daily commutes too so they can often simply be in foul humour and just thinking about getting home, eating and curling up.

London's great if you're a multi millionaire and can afford not to commute or if you're willing to live in a hovel close to the centre and spend your life going out and just use your flat as a sleeping place.

I've never really found the English very different to the Irish when it comes to stuff like this. The life of a long distance London commuter just drives a lot of people slowly crazy!

Legs.Eleven

SpaceTime wrote: »

It's like road rage. The normally passive, polite character turns nasty.

Although, you also have to understand that many Londoners live a horrible life of commuting in tiny, cramped trains in badly ventilated tunnels.
Many of them have very long daily commutes too so they can often simply be in foul humour and just thinking about getting home, eating and curling up.

London's great if you're a multi millionaire and can afford not to commute or if you're willing to live in a hovel close to the centre and spend your life going out and just use your flat as a sleeping place.

Commuted myself in London for 2 years and felt the passive-aggressiveness creep up on me. I can definitely see how it could happen. I wouldn't call people passive there but I would say they've mastered the art of pretending to be tolerant in almost every context but this. My Spanish students complain about the overuse of "sorry" and "please" and "thank you" there but I understand it completely as only when you live there do you understand how fine the line is between remaining calm and shouting your head off like a mad woman. Living in such close proximity to so many people requires it.

LorMal

No, but I don't judge those who do

SpaceTime wrote: »

It's like road rage. The normally passive, polite character turns nasty.

Although, you also have to understand that many Londoners live a horrible life of commuting in tiny, cramped trains in badly ventilated tunnels.
Many of them have very long daily commutes too so they can often simply be in foul humour and just thinking about getting home, eating and curling up.

London's great if you're a multi millionaire and can afford not to commute or if you're willing to live in a hovel close to the centre and spend your life going out and just use your flat as a sleeping place.

I've never really found the English very different to the Irish when it comes to stuff like this. The life of a long distance London commuter just drives a lot of people slowly crazy!

Very interesting post. I imagine that these long commutes are also timed to the last second to make the best connections. Then they come unstuck because some tourist is in no rush but is blocking the escalator. I can understand the frustration.
It is a brilliant transport system but it must become torture to have to use it everyday for years.

LorMal

No, but I don't judge those who do

keithclancy wrote: »

Sure look at what happens when it gets out of hand !

Sale on in TK Maxx:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbRa3e5lSos

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Is that the people trying to get out of TKMaxx

keithclancy

No, but I don't judge those who do

SpaceTime wrote: »

It's like road rage. The normally passive, polite character turns nasty.

Although, you also have to understand that many Londoners live a horrible life of commuting in tiny, cramped trains in badly ventilated tunnels.
Many of them have very long daily commutes too so they can often simply be in foul humour and just thinking about getting home, eating and curling up.

London's great if you're a multi millionaire and can afford not to commute or if you're willing to live in a hovel close to the centre and spend your life going out and just use your flat as a sleeping place.

I've never really found the English very different to the Irish when it comes to stuff like this. The life of a long distance London commuter just drives a lot of people slowly crazy!

No, its Ignorance breeding ignorance.

If the people blocking up the way didn't so in the first place then people wouldn't feel the need to barge past people.

Cody Pomeray

No, but I don't judge those who do

DaithiMC wrote: »

No, boarding the Tube is not my expertise but reading the f**king signs and listening to the PA are within the grasp of most I'd imagine. The bottom line is that the comparison between what we do here and what is done in the Tube in Britain is moot because THE SIGNS TELL YOU TO STAND THE F*CK ON THE RIGHT TO ALLOW OTHERS TO WALK BY, i.e., they were not all born with or without a "politeness gene"!

calm down.

czechlin

lertsnim wrote: »

If you stood on the wrong side of the escalator in the London Underground the people moving would push you out of the way. Proper order too. It annoys the hell out of me seeing people blocking the way on escalators and travelators

I've got the same experience from Prague. You can stand on an escalator but only on one side so those who are in a hurry can pass by. It makes sense.