Daily Express launches "crusade" against Romanians and Bulgarians

Foxhound38 · 31-10-2013 4:32pm #1

According to their front page anyway. Whatever about the public debate to be had about the limits of immigration - did they not figure using the term "crusade"... with their logo being a picture of a knight in armor, *might* be a tad racisty?

What do ye think? Legitimate campaign or race baiting neanderthals like the English Defence League heads?

ballsymchugh · 31-10-2013 4:34pm

have they run out of Diana stories?

Brussels Sprout · 31-10-2013 4:35pm

The Daily Express is the Daily Mail for Coffin Dodgers. Their front page headlines are always on one of the following topics:

Anti-Immigrant
Your House value has gone up/Down
Miracle Pill to cure Cancer/Heart Disease/Arthritus
Pension Values to Soar/Crash
EU Bashing
Nauseatingly fawning Royal Family Pieces

0ph0rce0 · 31-10-2013 4:35pm

We should be doing the same.

Is that racist?? I don't think so, If you've nothing to contribute other than thieving and scamming, then fúck off.

Of course not all of them, but the ones that we know of should be on the first flight home.

wp_rathead · 31-10-2013 4:35pm

ballsymchugh wrote: »

have they run out of Diana stories?

Aparrently it was the Roma's not paperazzi chasing the car

MadsL · 31-10-2013 4:37pm

Whatever sells papers. Best to ignore the trolls.

Mint Aero · 31-10-2013 4:37pm

Seems grand

Gatling · 31-10-2013 4:38pm

wprathead wrote: »

Aparrently it was the Roma's not paperazzi chasing the car

Have you seen the water problems in Dublin ;-)

MadsL · 31-10-2013 4:38pm

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

We should be doing the same.

Is that racist?? I don't think so, If you've nothing to contribute other than thieving and scamming, then fúck off.

Of course not all of them, but the ones that we know of should be on the first flight home.

Wut?

Last time I looked Ireland had laws on thieving and scamming. And the only Romanian I know is gainfully and legally employed.

Jester252 · 31-10-2013 4:39pm

I sure hope this thread increases its head height for all the high horses.

foxyboxer · 31-10-2013 4:39pm

ballsymchugh wrote: »

have they run out of Diana stories?

The Daily Ex-Princess

Amirani · 31-10-2013 4:43pm

The article and attitude is racist/xenophobic by definition. There's no arguing that.

Whether racism and xenophobia are sometimes justified is another question. I'd generally think not, but that's a more subjective area.

timmy4u2 · 31-10-2013 4:43pm

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

The Daily Express is the Daily Mail for Coffin Dodgers. Their front page headlines are always on one of the following topics:

Anti-Immigrant
Your House value has gone up/Down
Miracle Pill to cure Cancer/Heart Disease/Arthritus
Pension Values to Soar/Crash
EU Bashing
Nauseatingly fawning Royal Family Pieces

You missed out on two
Heatwave set to kill hundreds of older people
Biggest storm in 200 years set to cause unprecedented damage

The Backwards Man · 31-10-2013 4:44pm

The Diana Express in outlandishly xenophobic headline shocker.

I'm shocked. And appalled.*

*Not really.

mcmoustache · 31-10-2013 4:45pm

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

We should be doing the same.

Is that racist?? I don't think so, If you've nothing to contribute other than thieving and scamming, then fúck off.

Of course not all of them, but the ones that we know of should be on the first flight home.

How many times do people need to be told the following?

Roma != Romanian

One more time:

Roma != Romanian

I take my racism seriously and if I'm going to broadcast my bigotry, the least I can do is be properly informed about which group I'm hating on this week.

There's no point in being a racist if I can't tell the various races and ethnicities apart - I'd just sound silly.

timmy4u2 · 31-10-2013 4:46pm

Poor Romanians. The Bulgarians do not want them either.
The UK government does not think a lot of them either
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/bulgaria
And the Bulgarians had the cheek to attack the British forces during WW1
http://www.1914-1918.net/salonika.htm
And they dont forget the war too quickly

Nodin · 31-10-2013 4:50pm

Foxhound38 wrote: »

According to their front page anyway. Whatever about the public debate to be had about the limits of immigration - did they not figure using the term "crusade"... with their logo being a picture of a knight in armor, *might* be a tad racisty?

What do ye think? Legitimate campaign or race baiting neanderthals like the English Defence League heads?

...a tad more than a tad, I'd say. Ye'd wonder if this is a move into Daily Mail territory - will the Daily Heil counter with a "purge" against Romanians and the like, or will they try a coup de main by going for the Ultimate Diana Story....

Galwayguy35 · 31-10-2013 4:50pm

It's hardly worth their while going to Britain anyway, the vote to exit the EU will probably pass and they will have to leave then.

average hero · 31-10-2013 4:55pm

I'm right wing at the best of times but this is flat out intolerance, trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. If they are trying to raise social issues at the very least they could try and not put it in such a discriminatory, insensitive tone. Idiots.

Menas · 31-10-2013 4:58pm

timmy4u2 wrote: »

Poor Romanians. The Bulgarians do not want them either.
The UK government does not think a lot of them either
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/bulgaria

That advisory is the same as they have for a lot of countries.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

I spent a week in Sofia earlier on this year and found it to be a nice place. The people were hardworking and it resembled Dublin in 1995 in many ways.

But they people I met did moan on about the roma and their organized crime, much the same as happens in western Europe.

Hande hoche! · 31-10-2013 5:10pm

Disappointing lack of Romanian historical knowledge by the Express. Vlad III played an important role in the crusades against the Ottoman empire.

timmy4u2 · 31-10-2013 5:14pm

Trigger Happy wrote: »

That advisory is the same as they have for a lot of countries.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

I spent a week in Sofia earlier on this year and found it to be a nice place. The people were hardworking and it resembled Dublin in 1995 in many ways.

But they people I met did moan on about the roma and their organized crime, much the same as happens in western Europe.

I spend a lot of time in Bulgaria and they are terribly nice people, akin to Ireland 40 years ago.

To be honest the only scammers I found there were some British ex-pats involved in the Real Estate business, along with a few of their Irish friends.
Some of the Roma community got involved in the Bulgarian Mafia and it spilled over when a Roma Mafia boss had the son of a Village mayor run over by a truck.
That started the protests.

Galwayguy35 · 31-10-2013 5:27pm

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Disappointing lack of Romanian historical knowledge by the Express. Vlad III played an important role in the crusades against the Ottoman empire.

He was just as brutal to his own people as any invader.

Hande hoche! · 31-10-2013 5:32pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

He was just as brutal to his own people as any invader.

He certainly was. Still considered a hero by many Romanians.

goose2005 · 31-10-2013 5:35pm

timmy4u2 wrote: »

Poor Romanians. The Bulgarians do not want them either.
The UK government does not think a lot of them either
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/bulgaria
And the Bulgarians had the cheek to attack the British forces during WW1
http://www.1914-1918.net/salonika.htm
And they dont forget the war too quickly

Not to forget that Bulgaria joined the Axis in WW2 (admittedly, they were a bit of a Ringo)

Cee-Jay-Cee · 31-10-2013 5:38pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

It's hardly worth their while going to Britain anyway, the vote to exit the EU will probably pass and they will have to leave then.

Oh fcuk, guess where they'll all come to then! We're rightly fecked then

Grayson · 31-10-2013 8:40pm

It's hard to believe that a major newspaper can be so openly racist.

timmy4u2 · 31-10-2013 8:45pm

Grayson wrote: »

It's hard to believe that a major newspaper can be so openly racist.

Its not being the paper that it is.:mad:

Lawrence1895 · 31-10-2013 8:49pm

Grayson wrote: »

It's hard to believe that a major newspaper can be so openly racist.

It's hard to believe, that people are buying such a rag

SCOOP 64 · 31-10-2013 9:00pm

Maybe one of our own papers could do a campaign.

"All Romanians and Bulgarians are welcome in Ireland"

Sunglasses Ron · 31-10-2013 9:10pm

NiallSparky wrote: »

Whether racism and xenophobia are sometimes justified is another question. I'd generally think not, but that's a more subjective area.

This is the hitter right here.

There is not one, not one single person reading this, who would lease a property to Roma, or who would not be more suspicious of Roma moving next door than they would be of a family of any other race. There will be hypocrites talking out of their holes in this thread who are uneasy with this fact about themselves.

Nodin · 31-10-2013 9:11pm

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

This is the hitter right here.

There is not one, not one single person reading this, who would lease a property to Roma, or who would not be more suspicious of Roma moving next door than they would be of a family of any other race. There will be hypocrites talking out of their holes in this thread who are uneasy with this fact about themselves.

Your psychic powers both amaze and terrify me.

Sunglasses Ron · 31-10-2013 9:30pm

Nodin wrote: »

Your psychic powers both amaze and terrify me.

And your blatant hypocrisy amuses us all. Just because you are as suspicious of Roma and travellers as the rest of us doesn't make you a bad person.

timmy4u2 · 31-10-2013 9:30pm

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

This is the hitter right here.

There is not one, not one single person reading this, who would lease a property to Roma, or who would not be more suspicious of Roma moving next door than they would be of a family of any other race. There will be hypocrites talking out of their holes in this thread who are uneasy with this fact about themselves.

The Bulgarians do not like the Roma, or should I say those whom they refer to as Gypsies.
They feel that they flood into Bulgaria and get all the hand outs (sound familiar).

They have totally taken over some villages and have created shanty enclaves in some of the bigger towns.
Horses wander freely around the estates and piles of scrap litter the green areas.
(Sound familiar)
The Real Estate agents will encourage you to buy in certain villages stating that they are not "Gipsy Villages"
The last straw was when they became the Grandfathers of the local mafiosa.
Having said that some of these are employed in the villages as bar personnel, while more are engaged in the construction industry carrying out repairs and extentions.
They are well received in those respects.

Annasopra · 31-10-2013 9:34pm

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

This is the hitter right here.

There is not one, not one single person reading this, who would lease a property to Roma, or who would not be more suspicious of Roma moving next door than they would be of a family of any other race.

Thats just not true.

I would lease a property to Roma
I wouldn't be more suspicious of Roma neighbours.

I know many others who would think like me.

I'm sorry that you want to paint all Irish people as racist but we are simply not.

Donkey Oaty · 31-10-2013 9:35pm

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

There is not one, not one single person reading this, who would lease a property to Roma...

Some people clearly do lease properties to Roma, and they may be reading this thread. And any Roma reading this - astonishingly, some of them can read - might even be glad to have Roma neighbours.

Annasopra · 31-10-2013 9:36pm

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Some people clearly do lease properties to Roma, and they may be reading this thread. And any Roma reading this - astonishingly, some of them can read - might even be glad to have Roma neighbours.

Shhhh

Let him pretend everyone in Ireland is racist.

Red Nissan · 31-10-2013 9:39pm

Will the Irish Examiner start a campaign here do ye think?

Annasopra · 31-10-2013 9:42pm

Red Nissan wrote: »

Will the Irish Examiner start a campaign here do ye think?

Maybe against racism. And rightly so.

Red Nissan · 31-10-2013 9:44pm

average hero wrote: »

I'm right wing at the best of times but this is flat out intolerance, trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. If they are trying to raise social issues at the very least they could try and not put it in such a discriminatory, insensitive tone. Idiots.

I like straight talking. I think we've suffered more than enough ten years back, let alone to prospect of being unable to report WHO robbed me for PC correctness.

efb · 31-10-2013 9:45pm

The Daily Express a poor man's Daily Mail! Lol

Benny_Cake · 31-10-2013 9:45pm

Interesting to see how a newspaper owned by a man who made his fortune in porn can develop such a sense of outrage at the drop of a hat.

Red Nissan · 31-10-2013 9:57pm

Benny_Cake wrote: »

Interesting to see how a newspaper owned by a man who made his fortune in porn can develop such a sense of outrage at the drop of a hat.

Did he shanghai people into his clubs and pick their pockets as they queued up?

Sunglasses Ron · 31-10-2013 10:03pm

mango salsa wrote: »

Thats just not true.

I would lease a property to Roma
I wouldn't be more suspicious of Roma neighbours.

I know many others who would think like me.

I'm sorry that you want to paint all Irish people as racist but we are simply not.

:pac:

Aye, whatevs. If people can't be truthful their opinion is not worth hearing.

I like straight talking. I think we've suffered more than enough ten years back, let alone to prospect of being unable to report WHO robbed me for PC correctness.

http://www.thejournal.ie/atms-scam-elderly-people-dublin-1137409-Oct2013/

Why does the article not mention descriptions of who is suspected of doing it?

My money is on Spanish students or Canadian backpackers myself....

Donkey Oaty · 31-10-2013 10:05pm

Red Nissan wrote: »

Did he shanghai people into his clubs and pick their pockets as they queued up?

I don't think he ever ran any clubs, did he?

However, here's an anecdote about his modus operandi which has a few interesting insights into how British business works:

According to [an October 2012] of current affairs and satirical magazine Private Eye, British newspaper publisher and owner ofChannel 5 TV station Richard Desmond has been accused of verbally assaulting a schoolboy.

Apparently, the boy – who was on a work experience placement – sat at his desk in the Channel 5 offices eating a packet of crisps when Desmond entered the building.

The publisher, ranked as one of the country’s richest businessman, snatched the bag from the young teen’s hands and blasted: ‘You’re here to work, not stuff your face, you fat c**t!’

Although the boy burst into tearsand ran out of the building, he still enjoyed the last laugh as the placement had been arranged as afavourfor his father, a senior executive at a top advertising agency.

After the man heard his son’s story, all adverts for Asda supermarkets – one of the lucrative contracts that keep Desmond’s empire in business – have been removed from the publisher’s Daily and Sunday Star and Daily and Sunday Express titles until further notice.

(via overgroundonline.com0

timmy4u2 · 31-10-2013 10:05pm

I suppose we should not go too much off track here as regards Romanians, people from
Romania,
.... and Roma who are an ethnic race who are believed to have originated in India.
Romanians are citizens of Romania.

Roma are the race known as Romany also and they are the Gipsy race.

In fact Romania accounts for just 3.25% of Gipsy Roma population, whereas Bulgaria accounts for 4.67% and the UK , even though they do not know about it account for 0.15%.

Sunglasses Ron · 31-10-2013 10:09pm

timmy4u2 wrote: »

I suppose we should not go too much off track here as regards Romanians, people from
Romania,
.... and Roma who are an ethnic race who are believed to have originated in India.
Romanians are citizens of Romania.

Roma are the race known as Romany also and they are the Gipsy race.

In fact Romania accounts for just 3.25% of Gipsy Roma population, whereas Bulgaria accounts for 4.67% and the UK , even though they do not know about it account for 0.15%.

East Europeans tend to have a strong dislike towards them, with good reason. The majority of them are quite simply not very nice people, and it is hilarious to see folks here claim they have no pre judgments about them.

timmy4u2 · 31-10-2013 10:11pm

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

I don't think he ever ran any clubs, did he?

However, here's an anecdote about his modus operandi which has a few interesting insights into how British business works:

(via overgroundonline.com0

He did of course make his fortune from soft porn.
In similar fashion, and as part owner of the Irish Daily Star he almost closed the Irish Star over Kate Middleton's t☆★s.
INM did the proper thing and basically got rid of him.

timmy4u2 · 31-10-2013 10:21pm

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

East Europeans tend to have a strong dislike towards them, with good reason. The majority of them are quite simply not very nice people, and it is hilarious to see folks here claim they have no pre judgments about them.

Are you talking about the Romanians now or are you talking about the Roma who are the
Gipsy race who have very little to do with Romania or Romanians.

The most unfortunate thing that happened to that country was in 1858? Or thereabouts that it was named Romania, after the Romans and was then consigned to be forever associated with the Roma Gipsy race

Sunglasses Ron · 31-10-2013 10:23pm

timmy4u2 wrote: »

Are you talking about the Romanians now or are you talking about the Roma who are the
Gipsy race who have very little to do with Romania or Romanians.

The Roma I meant.

A great deal of actual Romanian women are quite attractive from what I've seen.

timmy4u2 · 31-10-2013 10:25pm

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

The Roma I meant.

A great deal of actual Romanian women are quite attractive from what I've seen.

So Dracula said, tasty also.

Daily Express launches "crusade" against Romanians and Bulgarians

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