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Windows 8.1 Now available in Store for download.

  • 17-10-2013 11:52am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭


    Just a heads up, Windows 8.1 is now available. When you open up the Store app there should be a large upgrade button should greet you on the front page.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭nc6000


    Currently downloading.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭3wayswitch


    Just finished the installation there. Pretty painless install, and I appear to have gained an extra 20gb free space on my SSD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭nc6000


    3wayswitch wrote: »
    Just finished the installation there. Pretty painless install, and I appear to have gained an extra 20gb free space on my SSD.

    Did it clear out or remove your WinSxS folder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭chrislad


    Fast download (thank you college 100mb connection!), just downloading Surface RT version too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    3wayswitch wrote: »
    Just finished the installation there. Pretty painless install, and I appear to have gained an extra 20gb free space on my SSD.
    Im gonna look for that, because my SSD be full. >18GB free of 238.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭3wayswitch


    nc6000 wrote: »
    Did it clear out or remove your WinSxS folder?

    I did, but last I checked it was only around 5GB.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭DexyDrain


    Anyone know what happens if you already have 8.1 Preview installed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 imronburgundy


    I'm stuck at 61% checking compatibility with over an hour. I understand it has to check every app I have installed, but does anyone know how long roughly this should take?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    DexyDrain wrote: »
    Anyone know what happens if you already have 8.1 Preview installed?

    Fresh Windows 8 install then upgrade through the store unfortunately :( . It's why I didn't install the preview

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I ran the preview on a tertiary device. It opens up a lot more apps available to download in the store, for one, but the performance was a bit buggy so I stopped using it. I really did like the default new Food app though: plug in ingredients you have, select a cuisine (Italian/French/.etc) and it will generate best fit recipes. Unlike most recipe books where you have to think "I want to make this thing" OK you need cloves, vanilla extract, kiwi fruits - like what I don't know where to buy this **** let alone have it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    The download bar was on 12% and now its gone back to zero :(


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Tediously the Volume Licence Download Centre has the 8.1 Enterprise & Pro downloads available, but not the Upgrade downloads. Not very helpful, but hopefully they'll become available shortly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    sure enough did free up around 20gb. Im hoping this means they will run a serious cleanup of the OS bloat when I get this up and running on the Surface RT and Pro here.

    Had to agree to new terms after the install. didn't like that, seems it shouldve asked before i ran the installer. It included new terms such as new binding arbitration terms for the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    went into the store and i see no upgrade or anything. all i can upgrade is some little apps ive got


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    ok i found it. stuck at 62% for 10 minutes now like the guy a few posts above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    Went smooth for me apart from the "@ key was switched with this key at the start but, it fixed itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    worked fine for desktop with retail upgrade. Surface pro is having problems - 0x80070057; going to have to try a reboot, and failing that a reset. RT is still running it.

    First impression: thank god it shows dumb people giant popup tips CLICK HERE TO GET TO START. CLICK HERE TO GET TO SETTINGS.

    But am still quite mad about something I noticed the other week, 8 and 8.1 both don't allow you to delete saved network settings unless you're in the command prompt, windows 7 had a control panel for that. Also, with 8.1 I seem to have lost the ability to forget a network or set it as metered. Odd odd odd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,130 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    3wayswitch wrote: »
    Just finished the installation there. Pretty painless install, and I appear to have gained an extra 20gb free space on my SSD.

    Same here. Download was very fast (thank you UPC for the free upgrade to 200mbps this week). Upgrade was smooth, 8.1 seems to be running a bit faster than 8. I'm still using start8 as a start menu, so I don't know if there's much improvement in the windows start button that made its return (it did feck all in 8.1 preview)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    Can you delete the Windows.old file?
    It's taking up 4GB on my SSD


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    Can you delete the Windows.old file?
    It's taking up 4GB on my SSD

    Yes, Windows.old folder is just a backup of your system as you did a clean install. Once you have all your documents, pictures, music etc. backed up delete away :)

    Nick


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭3wayswitch


    Can you delete the Windows.old file?
    It's taking up 4GB on my SSD

    Go into your Admin tools (Control Panel\System and Security\Administrative Tools) and go to Disk Clean-Up. Select the drive the Windows.old folder is on and press okay. Click on Clean up system files and in the list of files to delete it should show your previous installation of Windows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I have a 45GB skydrive allowance so I just moved all my personal files into that space. I can normally just click format Windows without a second thought these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,130 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Having a few hiccups. Had to download and install 8.1 versions of both Start8 and Softperfect Ramdisk as the versions I had were not compatible with 8.1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 imronburgundy


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    ok i found it. stuck at 62% for 10 minutes now like the guy a few posts above.

    After an hour and a half it finally moved on to the next stage. Took maybe another 40mins before it was all up and running.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Seemed to install without any issues. Cleared about 8GB from the SSD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Can you use your PC while it installs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    yes you can


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    I can't seem to find it and nothing comes up when I search for it either..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Vorrtexx


    Is there a Windows 8.1 Pro offline installer?
    I've got 2 laptops and a desktop running Windows 8 Pro and I really don't want to waste an extra 7GB downloading it for each machine individually.

    I checked my MSDN account but the ISO's for today are for the Enterprise edition.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭manutd83


    Before i install can anybody tell me how much does this effect me set up right now,i presume i lose nothing on the hard drive,how much does it effect my setting and say my favourites lists and things like that or my ms office,thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭dloob


    Well bugger, install failed cannot upgrade due to moved users directory :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    SeaDaily wrote: »
    I can't seem to find it and nothing comes up when I search for it either..
    reboot your PC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭200motels


    It took me less than an hour for download and install and that's on a 5 year old laptop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    200motels wrote: »
    It took me less than an hour for download and install and that's on a 5 year old laptop.

    That's probably more to do with your broadband speed than your laptop to be fair. I've been downloading it for about 3 hours and it's still only 34% in. I've a .30mbps broadband speed at the moment though which explains it.
    Overheal wrote: »
    reboot your PC

    I found the link to the download on the windows website in the end. Not sure why it wasn't showing up in the store. I have all the most recent updates installed and everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,130 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Overheal wrote: »
    yes you can

    You can use your PC while it downloads and while it is examining your system. Then it reboots to start installing and from then on you can not use your system

    For me it was download: about 5-10 minutes, 15 minutes preparation and 15 minutes install. On a nearly 6 year old PC (overclocked). And that was on a conventional SATA drive (that I had cloned my SSD onto, I didn't want to risk my main installation :D)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭mark_m360


    manutd83 wrote: »
    Before i install can anybody tell me how much does this effect me set up right now,i presume i lose nothing on the hard drive,how much does it effect my setting and say my favourites lists and things like that or my ms office,thanks

    Nothing changes. After you install 8.1, it will revert to how everything was setup before, same settings, same documents etc. Obviously the features will be updated and on the home screen you will see there is no longer a messaging app. Other then that, everything including your favourites, will not be lost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    DexyDrain wrote: »
    Anyone know what happens if you already have 8.1 Preview installed?
    yoyo wrote: »
    Fresh Windows 8 install then upgrade through the store unfortunately :( . It's why I didn't install the preview

    Nick

    Not correct. Visiting windows.com in IE will allow you to upgrade if it hasn't appeared in the Store yet. All you have to do is reinstall your Apps after. The rest of your data & accounts is preserved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,130 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    All my issues sorted, so I've made the final move to 8.1 onto my SSD on my main rig. Working fine, a bit faster than before too and a lot less space taken on my SSD (had to manually clean up some of the mess the installation left behind though, like the windows.old and some other directories)

    Funny that several windows updates to 8.1 are already available on the day 8.1 comes out :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    That's because 8.1 has been out for months to manufacturers.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    testicle wrote: »
    Not correct. Visiting windows.com in IE will allow you to upgrade if it hasn't appeared in the Store yet. All you have to do is reinstall your Apps after. The rest of your data & accounts is preserved.

    If you installed the 8.1 consumer preview you must do a fresh install. You should have two options to install from memory:
    • Keep existing Files & Settings
    • Nothing
    Afaik if you try to upgrade while on the preview build you will only have the "Nothing" option. Your files & stuff will be saved in the Windows.old folder if you choose nothing, but you'll have to re-install all your software, drivers etc.
    Edit: I did confuse with my previous post. If your on the consumer preview you must do a fresh Windows 8.1 install is what I meant :) .

    Nick


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭200motels


    Just a quick question, a friend of mine wants to know if you can do a fresh instal of 8.1? I've searched for info and no difinitive answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭200motels


    SeaDaily wrote: »
    That's probably more to do with your broadband speed than your laptop to be fair. I've been downloading it for about 3 hours and it's still only 34% in. I've a .30mbps broadband speed at the moment though which explains it.



    I found the link to the download on the windows website in the end. Not sure why it wasn't showing up in the store. I have all the most recent updates installed and everything.
    I know the laptop is not great but the download took about 5 mins and install about 50 mins.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    200motels wrote: »
    Just a quick question, a friend of mine wants to know if you can do a fresh instal of 8.1? I've searched for info and no difinitive answer.

    Yep, just Choose to keep Nothing and it will do a clean upgrade. You will be left with a Windows.old folder (containing the profile backup) which can be safely deleted after

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    I started the download again this morning and it now says "Getting the update ready"

    Is it still downloading?


    EDIT: The progress bar is moving too fast too be still downloading :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Good call on windows.old, not even sure why that was in there. But another 5gb to spare

    edit: for those encountering issues deleting windows.old (Folder Access denied by SYSTEM), follow these steps

    http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2527-windows-old-folder-delete-windows-8-a.html

    Surface Pro 2 with a clean reset and 8.1 upgrade, Office 365 and by SkyDrive synced up, 33.5GB Free/50.2GB. Not too bad at all. It was less than half that free space before the update.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    Just installed windows 8.1 and already having some problems. The computer seems more sluggish than before and when I open up task manager it seems that disk usage is at 100% almost constantly for the first 10 minutes or so after powering on. Also whenever I open up anything, iTunes for example, the disk usage goes back up to 100% for about 20 seconds and then reverts back to normal. Anyone know what might be causing this?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    SeaDaily wrote: »
    Just installed windows 8.1 and already having some problems. The computer seems more sluggish than before and when I open up task manager it seems that disk usage is at 100% almost constantly for the first 10 minutes or so after powering on. Also whenever I open up anything, iTunes for example, the disk usage goes back up to 100% for about 20 seconds and then reverts back to normal. Anyone know what might be causing this?

    What anti virus program are you using?

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    i love how in windows 8.1, i can turn off the charms bar ****e on top right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    yoyo wrote: »
    What anti virus program are you using?

    Nick

    AVG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭bobbygrant


    looks like you have to right click on the new Start button to get the useful menu, left click just seems to bring up the metro tile screen


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