Farming Chit Chat III

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

Have you ever tried Calmag dust. Guaranteed intake. We find it really good

we used to give them the rumbul bullets but these are the thickest of the thick, would end up doing damage to yourself trying to catch them... they are on an outfarm, how long does the dust lastthey have the run of 30 acres split in two, , cant really use a thingy at the pump as we also have a house there and well is for there too.

reilig

New pair of Bekina Wellingtons tested out this morning. Have been wearing purofort for years and always thought they were comfortable. The bekina are luxury. Nice soft steps in them and comfortable and warm on a frosty morning.

Going dosing all my weinlings this morning - first time to test out the dosing hook. Have 15 to sell in about a month's time - when the grass is gone. The rest will be kept till spring as I have the fodder.

I think I'm going to castrate the bulls. They are the poorer calves and will probably be bought for grass in spring. Would you castrate them?

moy83

reilig wrote: »

New pair of Bekina Wellingtons tested out this morning. Have been wearing purofort for years and always thought they were comfortable. The bekina are luxury. Nice soft steps in them and comfortable and warm on a frosty morning.

Going dosing all my weinlings this morning - first time to test out the dosing hook. Have 15 to sell in about a month's time - when the grass is gone. The rest will be kept till spring as I have the fodder.

I think I'm going to castrate the bulls. They are the poorer calves and will probably be bought for grass in spring. Would you castrate them?

What price are the Bekina wellies ?

reilig

moy83 wrote: »

What price are the Bekina wellies ?

50 euro for the steplite ones

moy83

reilig wrote: »

50 euro for the steplite ones

More or less the same as purofort so . Ill try them out for a change .

bbam

Was looking at mineral options for stock at turnout next spring.

Mayo healthcare have a bolus Copper, Selenium, Iodine, Cobalt it costs €6 a head and lasts 6 months.

http://www.mayohealthcare.ie/bolus.html

In the past we've lost weanlings from selenium diffenciecy and always seem to be chasing a few with copper injections.

Anyone use these type of bolus or recommend a better one ??

whelan1

moy83 wrote: »

More or less the same as purofort so . Ill try them out for a change .

got a pair of purofort a few weeks ago, they are grand but have me driven mental with stones getting caught in the grooves at the bottom

moy83

whelan1 wrote: »

got a pair of purofort a few weeks ago, they are grand but have me driven mental with stones getting caught in the grooves at the bottom

Thats probably the new grips as opposed to the type of welly though is it ?

whelan1

moy83 wrote: »

Thats probably the new grips as opposed to the type of welly though is it ?

just wondering do the other types of wellies do that too

reilig

whelan1 wrote: »

got a pair of purofort a few weeks ago, they are grand but have me driven mental with stones getting caught in the grooves at the bottom

Yea that's always a problem with purofort until the sole wears down a bit. Don't know if the bekina will be like that - will keep you informed

hugo29

moy83 wrote: »

More or less the same as purofort so . Ill try them out for a change .

Christmas stocking filler

moy83

hugo29 wrote: »

Christmas stocking filler

It would be one hellofa sock to fit the wellies into ! I dont get many crimbo presents anyhow becasue Im never happy with anything unless I buy it for myself so they leave me to my own devices when it comes to presents

Brown Podzol

moy83 wrote: »

What price are the Bekina wellies ?

You spend all your life either in bed or footwear. Always have the best of both.:P

whelan1

last cow calved yesterday, a massive fr bull. She was flat out this morning, light wouldnt work in shed so had to use torch on phone:rolleyes: gave her 2 bottles and shes up, also when i was stomach tubing a calf the handle broke on the bag :mad: thank god no more calves til next year

bob charles

whelan1 wrote: »

last cow calved yesterday, a massive fr bull. She was flat out this morning, light wouldnt work in shed so had to use torch on phone:rolleyes: gave her 2 bottles and shes up, also when i was stomach tubing a calf the handle broke on the bag :mad: thank god no more calves til next year

Whelan you always seem to have cows down, surely its better to prevent the problem with nutrition than fire brigade action

jersey101

whelan1 wrote: »

we used to give them the rumbul bullets but these are the thickest of the thick, would end up doing damage to yourself trying to catch them... they are on an outfarm, how long does the dust lastthey have the run of 30 acres split in two, , cant really use a thingy at the pump as we also have a house there and well is for there too.

We have a dosatron pump here and we have the house feed off the same pump as the as that. We put a non return valve on it and it cant go back. Been there 5 yrs now and no problem. Never give any other minerals only throufh that.

moy83

Brown Podzol wrote: »

You spend all your life either in bed or footwear. Always have the best of both.:P

Dead right, I paid €95 for a donlopillow a few weeks ago . Im sleeping like a baby since and the wife is doing alright on the secondhand one too !

hugo29

moy83 wrote: »

Dead right, I paid €95 for a donlopillow a few weeks ago . Im sleeping like a baby since and the wife is doing alright on the secondhand one too !

Good god man, make sure the wife gets some sleep, else your breakfast will be late;)

moy83

hugo29 wrote: »

Good god man, make sure the wife gets some sleep, else your breakfast will be late;)

Im the breakfast man around here because she heads to work at bout seven , I make the toast ,coffee and have the car warmed up for her .

bob charles

moy83 wrote: »

car warmed up for her .

did you write that the wrong way around

whelan1

bob charles wrote: »

Whelan you always seem to have cows down, surely its better to prevent the problem with nutrition than fire brigade action

had about 6 out of 42, they are getting pre calving minerals, straw and silage

bob charles

whelan1 wrote: »

had about 6 out of 42, they are getting pre calving minerals, straw and silage

15% sound like a huge figure to me, something not balance somewhere, maybe investigate the mineral content of silage and adjust minerals for future

whelan1

bob charles wrote: »

15% sound like a huge figure to me, something not balance somewhere, maybe investigate the mineral content of silage and adjust minerals for future

these are autumn calvers would normally expect a higher % of milk fever, think i had none for the spring calvers this year. actually threw out a few bottles of calcium that where gone out of date, i suppose if i had off been thinking right i should have given them a bottle straight after calving

Richk2012

whelan1 wrote: »

these are autumn calvers would normally expect a higher % of milk fever, think i had none for the spring calvers this year. actually threw out a few bottles of calcium that where gone out of date, i suppose if i had off been thinking right i should have given them a bottle straight after calving

Are you catching them all in time or any losses ..

whelan1

Richk2012 wrote: »

Are you catching them all in time or any losses ..

no losses, apart from a cow that twisted her spine calving- not milk fever related at all, edited to say the cow that was down this morning was standing up eating at 10.30pm last night and was flat out at 6.30 am

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

these are autumn calvers would normally expect a higher % of milk fever, think i had none for the spring calvers this year. actually threw out a few bottles of calcium that where gone out of date, i suppose if i had off been thinking right i should have given them a bottle straight after calving

Have a neighbour that gives a bottle to every cow that calves.
Would a few blood samples not tell what they are lacking?

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Have a neighbour that gives a bottle to every cow that calves.
Would a few blood samples not tell what they are lacking?

i wouldnt be worried about it at all, all the ones that got it are oldish and very heavy milkers....

quadboy

bloody hell backin in to a bale this morning with the spike and young dog who has a habbit of running around the tractor ran behind just as i got to the bale, i think ye know the rest:(

mf240

It's more often a case of too much calcium in the pre calving diet than a lack of anything. Also fleshy and older cows are more at risk.

mf240

whelan1 wrote: »

i wouldnt be worried about it at all, all the ones that got it are oldish and very heavy milkers....

Ya I wouldn't worry either,

Is it mostly in the autumn herd you get it? Were they out?