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Farming Chit Chat III

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  • #5552
    jomoloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭jomoloney


    bbam wrote: »
    To be honest I'm not politically minded but.

    I honestly beleive that if FG , LAB, SF or any of them had been in power through the boom years then nothing different would have been done. It's part of our political system that somehow we turn decent people into greedy selfish pigs of politicians. I've no doubt that if Enda and co had been at the trough , they would have gorged themselves at everyone's expense.

    We don't have a person in a party capable of leading this country fairly. Our political system is a shambles.
    Enda Kenny is no better than Berty, Brian Cowan or Micheal Martin. He just didn't get into power soon enough to line his pockets.


    TBH I wouldn't be putting Kenny and Martin in the same league as the other 2


  • #5553
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭bbam


    jomoloney wrote: »
    TBH I wouldn't be putting Kenny and Martin in the same league as the other 2

    I'm not so sure..
    My feeling on politicians is that given the cance they would all have been as inept and corrupt..

    In our office, couple of times a week we shred letters from politicians on all sides trying to carry favours for their constituants, mostly to jump them up lists or get something theyre not entitled to.. Its sickening, the political system is rotten through with littil or no moral fortitude.


  • #5554
    Farmer Pudsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    bbam wrote: »
    To be honest I'm not politically minded but.

    I honestly beleive that if FG , LAB, SF or any of them had been in power through the boom years then nothing different would have been done. It's part of our political system that somehow we turn decent people into greedy selfish pigs of politicians. I've no doubt that if Enda and co had been at the trough , they would have gorged themselves at everyone's expense.

    We don't have a person in a party capable of leading this country fairly. Our political system is a shambles.
    Enda Kenny is no better than Berty, Brian Cowan or Micheal Martin. He just didn't get into power soon enough to line his pockets.


    I have to disagree, if we look back at the 95-98 FG/Lab/DL government it got a lot of things right. It had put in place a use or loose it tax on development land which might have prevented the hording of devlopment land in Dublin. It had not started to bring in building incentives that FF did from 99 on.

    While I might not have much respect for Enda however he seems to be a lucky general that which Napoleon prized. FF people have to accept it was FF in charge and the blame lays squarely with them as to why we have gone through the last five years. are there thing I thing LAB/FG have done wrong yes there is but this recession is squarely at FF feet.
    jomoloney wrote: »
    TBH I wouldn't be putting Kenny and Martin in the same league as the other 2

    Martin is every bit as culpable as the other two just he had the balls to abandon Cowen at the right time. He was Health Minster before Mary Harney ( and I have no time for her either) and left her with the Nursing home debacle using the old political tirck of making sure nothing was on paper.


  • #5555
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    bbam wrote: »
    I'm not so sure..
    My feeling on politicians is that given the cance they would all have been as inept and corrupt..

    In our office, couple of times a week we shred letters from politicians on all sides trying to carry favours for their constituants, mostly to jump them up lists or get something theyre not entitled to.. Its sickening, the political system is rotten through with littil or no moral fortitude.

    The problem with the Irish political system is the pay is just too high. This tends to attract a certain type of person into politics, who naturally is more greedy/arrogant etc, and will happily use a big political party as a machine to get them elected, once they are in its a gravy train of bonus postions, fat pensions etc. FF most certainly was the most extreme of all the parties, but none the rest are a huge amount better. I'd tend to support the independents, but they can be hit or miss.


  • #5556
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Kovu Murr wrote: »
    Just back from watching The Hobbit. Well recommended!:D

    saw it last night. Its cat!

    Acting is poor. The story is non-existant, its just a stop gap between the 2 other films in the trilogy.
    Some of the visual effects are stunning and then some look like something from a 90's tv movie.
    Its at least an hour too long
    I didnt like the higher frame rate.

    Special mention goes to the elvish king who hams it up so much you could stick a galtee sticker on him.

    Very disapointing


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  • #5557
    Sharpshooter82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    bogman_bass wrote: »
    saw it last night. Its cat!

    Acting is poor. The story is non-existant, its just a stop gap between the 2 other films in the trilogy.
    Some of the visual effects are stunning and then some look like something from a 90's tv movie.
    Its at least an hour too long
    I didnt like the higher frame rate.

    Special mention goes to the elvish king who hams it up so much you could stick a galtee sticker on him.

    Very disapointing
    might be going to see it tonight


  • #5558
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    We'll have to get some more reviews of it so!


  • #5559
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Was watching the farming weather yesterday.
    Anyone else notice this.....or was it just me?:p
    http://imgur.com/gallery/RiLpD60


  • #5560
    naughto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,434 ✭✭✭naughto


    freedominacup wrote: »
    Start a thread and put us all right so. TBH though he's right on one thing and you pointed it out in your post. IT'S ALL FIANNA FAILS FAULT, ALL OF IT, COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY, ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT AS TO WHOSE TO BLAME. MOST OF THE FF MINISTERS FROM THE 3 PREVIOUS GOVERNMENTS WOULD BE IN JAIL FOR CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE/INCOMPETENCE IF THE COUNTRY WAS BEING RUN PROPERLY.

    You question Kenny relationship with Teddy(James Rielly) when Cowen put Sweary Mary in charge of our industry and she immeadiately proceeded to shutdown Irish sugar as her main achievement in office:rolleyes:.

    it was not my post i said i borrowed if from another thread but what that posted wrote a lot of it is true.
    iam sure ye all heard about the 150 job in mayo general hospital being created as it was all over the news.
    what ye dident hear was a week later is that 120 jobs are to go in a local pharmicual factory in the town,now i wounder why that wasent on the news.
    kenny has done f1uck all for the town that elected him,he is more worried about the jackines in dublin an how to keep them happy


  • #5561
    hugo29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    Kovu Murr wrote: »
    Was watching the farming weather yesterday.
    Anyone else notice this.....or was it just me?:p
    http://imgur.com/gallery/RiLpD60

    :D:D

    jayus Kovu, only you, ud want to give quad boy a ring


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  • #5562
    hugo29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    naughto wrote: »
    it was not my post i said i borrowed if from another thread but what that posted wrote a lot of it is true.
    iam sure ye all heard about the 150 job in mayo general hospital being created as it was all over the news.
    what ye dident hear was a week later is that 120 jobs are to go in a local pharmicual factory in the town,now i wounder why that wasent on the news.
    kenny has done f1uck all for the town that elected him,he is more worried about the jackines in dublin an how to keep them happy

    he has done sweet FA for connaught TBH and wasnt that his election mantra when they were trying to get us Fianna Fail heads to convert

    they are all the same, anyway enough bout them gob****es where re we all going for our xmas party:D:D


  • #5563
    Suckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭Suckler


    naughto wrote: »
    .
    kenny has done f1uck all for the town that elected him,he is more worried about the jackines in dublin an how to keep them happy

    He isn't in that position to help the town that elected him, that is not how it works. Any proof on the "jackines" bit?
    hugo29 wrote: »
    he has done sweet FA for connaught TBH

    As above, he is not in that position to solely help his local town or native province.


  • #5564
    Suckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭Suckler


    bbam wrote: »
    I honestly beleive that if FG , LAB, SF or any of them had been in power through the boom years then nothing different would have been done.

    Fine Gael were actually calling for more spending during the "Boom" years. When the gear box fell out of the economy they were quick to the soap boxes spewing about wreckless overspending.


  • #5565
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Suckler wrote: »
    He isn't in that position to help the town that elected him, that is not how it works. Any proof on the "jackines" bit?



    As above, he is not in that position to solely help his local town or native province.

    Go away out of that.

    You just have to look at what Albert Reynolds did for his native longford - abbots, prison service HQ, Social Welfare HQ. Only for him the town would be all Hiaces and halting sites.

    Cowen did the same for Tullamore over the years. Several big factories came there in his time as a minister. he just wasn't in the top job for long enough to make a difference.

    Look at James Reilly - all those primary care centres in his own constituency. That's how you remain popular among the people that elected you!!

    They all work in the same way no matter what party they are in. Only problem is that Inda hasn't the cop on to look after his own while he is in the job. That's why Europe love him and want him to take a top EU job - he'll do what he's told, not what he wants to do.


  • #5566
    naughto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,434 ✭✭✭naughto


    Suckler wrote: »
    He isn't in that position to help the town that elected him, that is not how it works. Any proof on the "jackines" bit?



    As above, he is not in that position to solely help his local town or native province.
    why not every other taoiseach town was looked after when they where they leader of the crountry

    it took 10/12 councliers god knows how long to get him to meet with them,over how to boost job creation in the town.he gave them a half an hour and was back up to dub,he has his muppets to do his dirty work.
    who are not worth the dam,what i could tell ye about one of them,well lets just say he should be in jail for what he did.
    but enough of them type of sh1te,this is a farming thread.
    brother bought a Pb cow at the weekend collecting her this evening.


  • #5567
    Marooned75
    Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Marooned75


    Kovu Murr wrote: »
    Was watching the farming weather yesterday.
    Anyone else notice this.....or was it just me?:p
    http://imgur.com/gallery/RiLpD60

    Charlie Oscar Charlie Kilo, lol


  • #5568
    Suckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭Suckler


    reilig wrote: »
    Go away out of that.
    No:D
    reilig wrote: »
    You just have to look at what Albert Reynolds did for his native longford - abbots, prison service HQ, Social Welfare HQ. Only for him the town would be all Hiaces and halting sites.
    So you admit there was nothing in the town but hiaces and halting sites, so he brought some industry and services to a place that had nothing and in desperate need of some development by your own admission. Was Reynolds not a Roscommon man anyway? He also put some of his family business there I thought.
    reilig wrote: »
    Cowen did the same for Tullamore over the years. Several big factories came there in his time as a minister. he just wasn't in the top job for long enough to make a difference.
    Cowens years as a base TD and minister coincided with a prosperous time in the economy, towns countrywide were being developed and had new industry setting up. Tullamore wasn’t alone in this.
    reilig wrote: »
    Look at James Reilly - all those primary care centres in his own constituency. That's how you remain popular among the people that elected you!!
    All those centres – all 2 of them, 2 out of 15 he proposed. Only 1 going ahead.
    reilig wrote: »
    They all work in the same way no matter what party they are in.
    No qualms with that statement unfortunately.
    reilig wrote: »
    Only problem is that Inda hasn't the cop on to look after his own while he is in the job.
    So now you’re lambasting him for not pulling strokes and placating a few in Castlebar to the detriment of some place that might actually be more suitable. He is Taoiseach, he has to see the bigger picture. There are plenty of other TD’s in Mayo that should be doing this. It’s not something the leader of the country should be doing
    reilig wrote: »
    That's why Europe love him and want him to take a top EU job - he'll do what he's told, not what he wants to do.
    Anything to back this up or is this barstool party quotes?
    naughto wrote: »
    why not every other taoiseach town was looked after when they where they leader of the crountry.
    They didn’t, it’s just easier to spout sh1te and say they did.
    naughto wrote: »
    it took 10/12 councliers god knows how long to get him to meet with them,over how to boost job creation in the town.he gave them a half an hour and was back up to dub,he has his muppets to do his dirty work.
    He is Taoiseach, that’s not his portfolio and I wouldn't be happy if thats what he was concentrating on, he has ministers and TD's to do that. – the muppets and dirty work just show you don’t know how the system should work and don’t want to know either. It’s just easier for you that way.
    naughto wrote: »
    who are not worth the dam, .
    Who voted them in? You can do better, please go ahead.
    naughto wrote: »
    what i could tell ye about one of them,well lets just say he should be in jail for what he did.
    Why don’t you then? Tell us all if it was that bad. If it’s as bad as you imply and you + who ever else knows don’t do anything about it then you deserve the gombeens you get.
    naughto wrote: »
    but enough of them type of sh1te,this is a farming thread.brother bought a Pb cow at the weekend collecting her this evening.
    I bought a lovely PB angus heifer in June. Do you think she’s come bulling yet. Has she fucck. An expensive pet is all she is now.


  • #5569
    hugo29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    Suckler wrote: »
    No:D
    So you admit there was nothing in the town but hiaces and halting sites, so he brought some industry and services to a place that had nothing and in desperate need of some development by your own admission. Was Reynolds not a Roscommon man anyway? He also put some of his family business there I thought.
    Cowens years as a base TD and minister coincided with a prosperous time in the economy, towns countrywide were being developed and had new industry setting up. Tullamore wasn’t alone in this.
    All those centres – all 2 of them, 2 out of 15 he proposed. Only 1 going ahead.
    No qualms with that statement unfortunately.
    So now you’re lambasting him for not pulling strokes and placating a few in Castlebar to the detriment of some place that might actually be more suitable. He is Taoiseach, he has to see the bigger picture. There are plenty of other TD’s in Mayo that should be doing this. It’s not something the leader of the country should be doing
    Anything to back this up or is this barstool party quotes?
    They didn’t, it’s just easier to spout sh1te and say they did.
    He is Taoiseach, that’s not his portfolio and I wouldn't be happy if thats what he was concentrating on, he has ministers and TD's to do that. – the muppets and dirty work just show you don’t know how the system should work and don’t want to know either. It’s just easier for you that way.
    Who voted them in? You can do better, please go ahead.
    Why don’t you then? Tell us all if it was that bad. If it’s as bad as you imply and you + who ever else knows don’t do anything about it then you deserve the gombeens you get.

    I bought a lovely PB angus heifer in June. Do you think she’s come bulling yet. Has she fucck. An expensive pet is all she is now.

    is that you Enda,:D you should be running the country, not on boards


  • #5570
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Suckler wrote: »
    No:D
    So you admit there was nothing in the town but hiaces and halting sites, so he brought some industry and services to a place that had nothing and in desperate need of some development by your own admission. Was Reynolds not a Roscommon man anyway? He also put some of his family business there I thought.
    Cowens years as a base TD and minister coincided with a prosperous time in the economy, towns countrywide were being developed and had new industry setting up. Tullamore wasn’t alone in this.
    All those centres – all 2 of them, 2 out of 15 he proposed. Only 1 going ahead.
    No qualms with that statement unfortunately.
    So now you’re lambasting him for not pulling strokes and placating a few in Castlebar to the detriment of some place that might actually be more suitable. He is Taoiseach, he has to see the bigger picture. There are plenty of other TD’s in Mayo that should be doing this. It’s not something the leader of the country should be doing
    Anything to back this up or is this barstool party quotes?
    They didn’t, it’s just easier to spout sh1te and say they did.
    He is Taoiseach, that’s not his portfolio and I wouldn't be happy if thats what he was concentrating on, he has ministers and TD's to do that. – the muppets and dirty work just show you don’t know how the system should work and don’t want to know either. It’s just easier for you that way.
    Who voted them in? You can do better, please go ahead.
    Why don’t you then? Tell us all if it was that bad. If it’s as bad as you imply and you + who ever else knows don’t do anything about it then you deserve the gombeens you get.

    I bought a lovely PB angus heifer in June. Do you think she’s come bulling yet. Has she fucck. An expensive pet is all she is now.

    Seems like we've hit a raw political nerve :eek:

    Every politician gets voted in based on promises that they make - Inda made a load of promises for the west when he became taoiseach - how many did he fulfill? Calling someone out on broken promises is not lombasting.

    Albert Reynolds was born in Rooskey County Roscommon, but he was elected in teh Longford Constituency - where he set up his family business C & D. He claimed responsibility for the government offices that were decentralised to there - was it not a great thing that he did for the people that voted for him? He also spoke at the opening of Abbotts - claiming that it took a lot of hard work from him to get them there - again, was this not a great thing that he did for the town? Over 300 people employed there!


  • #5571
    naughto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,434 ✭✭✭naughto


    you must be a blue shirt suckler
    an f1uck me but that was a lot of quotes.


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  • #5572
    Suckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭Suckler


    hugo29 wrote: »
    is that you Enda,:D you should be running the country, not on boards
    I was waiting for that one. :o

    I'm not a fan of his by a long shot. The man had the easiest job in the world before the last election, FF had made such a mess a broken toaster would've had a better chance than most FF candidates, Enda and FG jumped in with two big boots making all kinds of unnecessary election promises without knowing the full scale of the financial mess. On day one of being elected all he had to say was things will get worse before they get better, instead he went on saying how much improvement there would be straight out the gate. It was like a painter going to brush over a house fire.


  • #5573
    hugo29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    i see on another thread that an old friend has returned

    welcome back Mrs;)


  • #5574
    Sharpshooter82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    hugo29 wrote: »
    i see on another thread that an old friend has returned

    welcome back Mrs;)
    Spotted :rolleyes:


  • #5575
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Sharpshooter82 wrote: »
    Spotted :rolleyes:

    That word would always be a giveaway! :D:D


  • #5576
    TEAT SQUEEZER
    Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭TEAT SQUEEZER


    Marooned75 wrote: »
    Charlie Oscar Charlie Kilo, lol

    noted its only 50% of one ... otherwise known as a semi:D


  • #5577
    jersey101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭jersey101


    Dosing the last of the incalf heifers here, have one complete bitch. She keeps trying to jump out of the crush, nearly hit me with her foot 3 or 4 times in doing so. Then she broke my automatic dosing gun, back to the manual one now


  • #5578
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    reilig wrote: »
    Seems like we've hit a raw political nerve :eek:

    Every politician gets voted in based on promises that they make - Inda made a load of promises for the west when he became taoiseach - how many did he fulfill? Calling someone out on broken promises is not lombasting.

    Albert Reynolds was born in Rooskey County Roscommon, but he was elected in teh Longford Constituency - where he set up his family business C & D. He claimed responsibility for the government offices that were decentralised to there - was it not a great thing that he did for the people that voted for him? He also spoke at the opening of Abbotts - claiming that it took a lot of hard work from him to get them there - again, was this not a great thing that he did for the town? Over 300 people employed there!

    And this is why Ireland is in the mess it is in - politicians elected to run the country are too busy trying to tie down votes for the local town rather than running the bloody country properly

    National politicians should have nothing (absolutely nothing) to do with local agendas. That should be the role of local government - the standard of which is a disgrace in this country

    It's shocking - and the responsibility lies with the PEOPLE of this country. They want a political system like this - instead of rejecting it - they embrace it with open arms if they think they might gain something from it

    The people of this country are a total joke to be honest - the 1 time they had the opportunity to do something about the politcal system (i.e. abolish the most elite house in the world (possibly) in the Seanad) they like fools reject it

    Fact is the people get the government they deserve - the people of Ireland created the mess that we are in today


  • #5579
    onyerbikepat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭onyerbikepat


    :)...
    no-politics.gif


  • #5580
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,293 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Regarding Albert R, the one thing he did for Longford, was get the entire county declared a "Disadvantaged" area. The other stuff that happened was debatable. The bypass (half a bypass, actually) was routed to take advantage of land that the R family owned, and indeed also contained the quarries where the stone was sourced. The Ambulance factory was allowed to collapse where in other counties it would have gotten Govt. aid. the family bought up any opposition to the hotel business and closed it. (Fountain Blue) When a rival started to build a large hotel complex in Carrick, and the rumour was that it would be called "The Landmark", the Fountain blue was opened temporarily and called The landmark, and the R family tried to take a case against the Carrick operation for copying their Trademark.
    The Annaly hotel was bought by Jim R and used for overflow from the Longford arms, then used as a hostel for asylum seekers, now closed and derelict looking.


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  • #5581
    td5man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭td5man


    hugo29 wrote: »
    i see on another thread that an old friend has returned

    welcome back Mrs;)

    Auld Biddy 1974 would be more appropriate. ;-)


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