Munster vs Drive-For-Five buildup

Buer · 03-10-2013 1:50pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Much more worrying than anything to do with the benches is having a veritably awful player at this level starting at 9. Williams has been ok so far this season but ok won't cut it on Saturday.

The worry for me (if I was on the dark side), would be Williams in correlation with Ronan. The last thing he needs is to have to go digging.

former legend · 03-10-2013 1:51pm

Tox56 wrote: »

Are Murray and Botha?

Is Sean O'Brien? Lots of variables here.

I would hope that the Leinster starting XV will be good enough that we won't need big interventions from the bench.

Howard Juneau · 03-10-2013 1:53pm

former legend wrote: »

Is Sean O'Brien? Lots of variables here.

I would hope that the Leinster starting XV will be good enough that we won't need big interventions from the bench.

You don't mind if I hope, that your hope is dashed....here's hoping anyway!

Buer · 03-10-2013 1:53pm

Also, for the record, Johne Murphy is bleedin' robbed to not be in the 23. Injured?

jamiedav2011 · 03-10-2013 2:02pm

Must say, and this is probably bad on my part, but I did smirk at the lack of a certain Blackrock boy in the 23...

jamiedav2011 · 03-10-2013 2:04pm

If I were Leinster, I'd start Cronin, SOB, Reddan, Madigan and go hell for leather at Munster early.

Ruck and quick ball is one place we can make hay for me, with Williams and Ronan in the side.

We've shown previously that when we up the tempo in Thomond we can make hay.

Fireball07 · 03-10-2013 2:08pm

What does Johne Murphy have to do?

I love Hurley as much as anyone, but it's full-back or nowhere for him, surely? Or maybe 12... I just don't want to see him on the wing anymore. Disappointed Murphy hasn't made it.

The really interesting selection has to be Jones though, wasn't really expecting him to be back. On his day, he can be excellent, his form towards the end of last season was promising. Likes of Conway and Dineen will be pushing hard for places in time.

Williams is an interesting call too, I suppose on form this season, he deserves to be ahead of Sheridan, but he really needs to deliver here. Any sort of poor delivery could put us on the backfoot. I'd always be worried about him starting..... great to see Murray there though, will be a big boost.

You'd expect all of Cronin, Botha, DOC, Stander, Murray, JJ to make a big impact from the bench, something we've not always been able to say...possibly Varley too, but I don't always trust him.

Interesting to see what the Leinster team will be.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 03-10-2013 2:08pm

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

If I were Leinster, I'd start Cronin, SOB, Reddan, Madigan and go hell for leather at Munster early.

Ruck and quick ball is one place we can make hay for me, with Williams and Ronan in the side.

We've shown previously that when we up the tempo in Thomond we can make hay.

Two of those highlighted go badly and there won't be much hay made!

Whatever about Cronin, but Boss is a safer option than Reddan

former legend · 03-10-2013 2:09pm

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Must say, and this is probably bad on my part, but I did smirk at the lack of a certain Blackrock boy in the 23...

I smirked too, but only because I'd rather have Denis Hurley running at a tiring Leinster defence than Andrew Conway.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 03-10-2013 2:11pm

Conway can't have many complaints. The games he has played in have largely passed him by. Murphy has much more cause to be pissed off

Hurk · 03-10-2013 2:14pm

Could any Galway heads recommend a pub that would be showing the game? Up there for the weekend.

thomond2006 · 03-10-2013 2:17pm

Once again Jones gets straight back in starting after an injury layoff. Hopefully he will get some front foot ball to attack with.

Murphy is unlucky alright but Zebo deserves time to play himself into form. He will have to raise his game for this.

Fireball07 · 03-10-2013 2:21pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Once again Jones gets straight back in starting after an injury layoff. Hopefully he will get some front foot ball to attack with.

Murphy is unlucky alright but Zebo deserves time to play himself into form. He will have to raise his game for this.

Realistically, I think the spot up for grabs was between Murphy, Hurley, Jones and Conway...and on form, Murphy deserved it.

Zebo deserves the time to get himself back to fitness and has a tendency to play well in big games, so was always going to start.

Mickiemcfist · 03-10-2013 2:21pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Once again Jones gets straight back in starting after an injury layoff. Hopefully he will get some front foot ball to attack with.

Murphy is unlucky alright but Zebo deserves time to play himself into form. He will have to raise his game for this.

I may be mistaken, but didnt Jones come back from the last injury straight into the Leinster game in the Aviva last year & score a great try? Anyway at least if he's having a howler we can throw DH in.

Quint2010 · 03-10-2013 2:23pm

Think that's a very strong Munster starting 15 and bench. Very worried for Leinster.

finatron · 03-10-2013 2:24pm

Hurk wrote: »

Could any Galway heads recommend a pub that would be showing the game? Up there for the weekend.

The salthouse great little bar always have rugby on there and great beers there too

danthefan · 03-10-2013 2:38pm

Not an overly scary Munster side imo, I think Leinster can match that certainly. Form/home advantage are significant variables though.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 03-10-2013 2:40pm

I think we could have fielded a better side

former legend · 03-10-2013 2:44pm

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

I may be mistaken, but didnt Jones come back from the last injury straight into the Leinster game in the Aviva last year & score a great try? Anyway at least if he's having a howler we can throw DH in.

No, he didn't play in the Aviva IIRC but did score a try in Thomond; don't know if I'd say it was a great try but it was certainly contentious...

Mahatma Geansai · 03-10-2013 2:47pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

I think we could have fielded a better side

Could we? Stander could come in for Ronan maybe. Its a week too soon for Botha and Murray. Murphy has earned a start, but he isn't better than Zebo and Earls, and Jones is probably our best fullback who regularly plays there.

You've called for Cronin and Varley. Its too soon to throw Cronin in against Leinster and I'd have Killer ahead of him anyway. Starting Varley is out of the question in a tight game. His darts are unreliable at best and his propensity for silly penalties is infuriating.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 03-10-2013 2:50pm

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

Could we? Stander could come in for Ronan maybe. Its a week too soon for Botha and Murray. Murphy has earned a start, but he isn't better than Zebo and Earls, and Jones is probably our best fullback who regularly plays there.

You've called for Cronin and Varley. Its too soon to throw Cronin in against Leinster and I'd have Killer ahead of him anyway. Starting Varley is out of the question in a tight game. His darts are unreliable at best and his propensity for silly penalties is infuriating.

Sheridan for Williams

CJ for Ronan

Murphy for Jones

Makes it a better side for me

danthefan · 03-10-2013 2:52pm

former legend wrote: »

No, he didn't play in the Aviva IIRC but did score a try in Thomond; don't know if I'd say it was a great try but it was certainly contentious...

Was that the Downey/BOD off the ball tackle incident?

Mahatma Geansai · 03-10-2013 2:52pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Sheridan for Williams

CJ for Ronan

Murphy for Jones

Makes it a better side for me

Even though it pains me to say it, Williams is in better form. Murphy isn't a fullback even though he was good last week. I'd like to see CJ in for Ronan, but I imagine that Ronan is more suited to the fast continuity based rugby Penney wants to play.

Howard Juneau · 03-10-2013 2:59pm

danthefan wrote: »

Was that the Downey/BOD off the ball tackle incident?

No, that was the Downey not looking where he was running incident

Howard Juneau · 03-10-2013 3:02pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Sheridan for Williams

CJ for Ronan

Murphy for Jones

Makes it a better side for me

Jones everytime at FB.
Yes, he's as brittle as china, but he's a better option than anybody else in the squad.
I'd liked to have seen CJ start though.

New scrum rules are going to be interesting. I do like the way we've adapted to them so far, am hoping for more of the same sat evening

danthefan · 03-10-2013 3:02pm

Howard Juneau wrote: »

No, that was the Downey not looking where he was running incident

Bwahahahaha.

Anyway Leinster won. Was great craic altogether.

Grimebox · 03-10-2013 3:05pm

danthefan wrote: »

Was that the Downey/BOD off the ball tackle incident?

Let's not

dtpc191991 · 03-10-2013 3:10pm

Just realised this could be Drico's last game in Thomond. =0. Anyone know who's televising this?

Howard Juneau · 03-10-2013 3:11pm

Grimebox wrote: »

Let's not

It's all good humoured so far....we can take it.....will make the asswhooping on Saturday even sweeter!

who_me · 03-10-2013 3:11pm

Howard Juneau wrote: »

Jones everytime at FB.
Yes, he's as brittle as china, but he's a better option than anybody else in the squad.
I'd liked to have seen CJ start though.

New scrum rules are going to be interesting. I do like the way we've adapted to them so far, am hoping for more of the same sat evening

It's hard to say how good Jones is, we see so little of him play. Great to see him have a run, but Murphy and Hurley have played very well so far this season. Killer instead of Cronin, Downey instead of Dineen, Ronan instead of Stander. Lots of the players who've played well in the early season games have been dropped as soon as the 'serious season' kicks in.

Munster vs Drive-For-Five buildup

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