Munster vs Drive-For-Five buildup

thomond2006 · 28-09-2013 9:27pm #1

May as well get the ball rolling! :pac:

If I have time I'll fire up a preview when the teams are named.

FWIW I'd like to see:

Cronin, Sherry, Archer, Ryan, POC, Stander, POM, Coughlan;
Murray*, Keatley, Zebo, Dineen, Laulala, Earls, Hurley

Bench: Varley, Kilcoyne, Botha*/J Ryan, DOC, Dougall, Sheridan, JJH, Conway

*if fit

danthefan · 28-09-2013 9:29pm

Munster are smelly.

ciarriaithuaidh · 28-09-2013 9:35pm

danthefan wrote: »

Munster are smelly.

So's your ma. Take that!

Fireball07 · 28-09-2013 9:38pm

Ooh, this might be fun.

thomond2006 wrote: »

FWIW I'd like to see:

Cronin, Sherry, Archer, Ryan, POC, Stander, POM, Coughlan;
Murray*, Keatley, Zebo, Dineen, Laulala, Earls, Hurley

Bench: Varley, Kilcoyne, Botha*/J Ryan, DOC, Dougall, Sheridan, JJH, Conway

*if fit

Dunno if Murray will be fit, can't really see him being thrown in from the start even if he is. But if he's on the bench, class player to bring in.

I'd probably have Murphy somewhere in the backline, either on the wing or at full-back, with Earls taking the other spot. Conway on the bench ahead of Hurley.

Dineen did well today, probably did enough to hold his position. Thought JJ was good too.

That's the backrow I want to see, don't think we will.

thomond2006 · 28-09-2013 9:39pm

danthefan wrote: »

Munster are smelly.

It's the sweat of pashun.

thomond2006 · 28-09-2013 9:40pm

Fireball07 wrote: »

Ooh, this might be fun.

Dunno if Murray will be fit, can't really see him being thrown in from the start even if he is. But if he's on the bench, class player to bring in.

I'd probably have Murphy somewhere in the backline, either on the wing or at full-back, with Earls taking the other spot. Conway on the bench ahead of Hurley.

Dineen did well today, probably did enough to hold his position. Thought JJ was good too.

That's the backrow I want to see, don't think we will.

I forgot about Murphy there, he probably deserves to be ahead of Conway alright. Would you have Murphy ahead of Zebo though?

Fireball07 · 28-09-2013 9:41pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

I forgot about Murphy there, he probably deserves to be ahead of Conway alright. Would you have Murphy ahead of Zebo though?

Oh, no way.

Murphy ahead of Hurley. Back 3 of Zebo/Earls/Murphy. Conway on the bench.

Grimebox · 28-09-2013 9:44pm

Drive for five...?

Fireball07 · 28-09-2013 9:46pm

Grimebox wrote: »

Drive for five...?

It left me baffled for a while too, but I think it's got to do with the amount of European trophies them lot have :P

Took me a good while to get it.

durkadurka · 28-09-2013 9:50pm

Fireball07 wrote: »

It left me baffled for a while too, but I think it's got to do with the amount of European trophies them lot have :P

Took me a good while to get it.

Nah I think we've bet you home and away for the last two years now.

Last time you beat us was in 2011 when the goys were hungover!

Grimebox · 28-09-2013 9:55pm

This certainly didn't answer any questions

Fireball07 · 28-09-2013 9:56pm

durkadurka wrote: »

Nah I think we've bet you home and away for the last two years now.

Last time you beat us was in 2011 when the goys were hungover!

Oh...

TheKeenMachine · 28-09-2013 10:00pm

I'd say we'll see a Leinster team of
Kearney; Ferg, BOD, Darce, Dave K; Madigan, Boss
Healy, Cronin, Moore; Toner, Cullen; SOB, Murphy, Heaslip.
Strauss, McGrath, Ross, Roux, McLaughlin, Reddan, Gopperth, Tuqiri.

I think Moore did enough yesterday to earn his place in the XV, Murphy similarly has continued where he picked off last season. Is Cullen fit? If not I'd imagine Denton will be on the bench. Kearney was poor last night for me but we don't really have anyone to step in. Week too soon for Fitz obviously :pac:

Quint2010 · 28-09-2013 10:32pm

TheKeenMachine wrote: »

I'd say we'll see a Leinster team of
Kearney; Ferg, BOD, Darce, Dave K; Madigan, Boss
Healy, Cronin, Moore; Toner, Cullen; SOB, Murphy, Heaslip.
Strauss, McGrath, Ross, Roux, McLaughlin, Reddan, Gopperth, Tuqiri.

I think Moore did enough yesterday to earn his place in the XV, Murphy similarly has continued where he picked off last season. Is Cullen fit? If not I'd imagine Denton will be on the bench. Kearney was poor last night for me but we don't really have anyone to step in. Week too soon for Fitz obviously :pac:

McCarthy will surely start next week with Toner no? Be amazed also if SOB started.

Buer · 28-09-2013 10:38pm

SOB said himself this is his comeback game. Now that might mean from the bench but given the real issues Leinster had last night at flanker, I could see him starting.

Not a hope Ross will be on the bench though and I'd be surprised if KMcL wasn't in the side too. Murphy has done well but I think the best hope for him is the bench if at all.

Hagz · 28-09-2013 10:50pm

1. Cian Healy
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Mike Ross
4. Mike McCarthy
5. Devin Toner
6. Kevin McLaughlin
7. Jordi Murphy
8. Jamie Heaslip
9. Isaac Boss
10. Ian Madigan
11. Dave Kearney
12. Gordon D'Arcy
13. Brian O'Driscoll
14. Fergus McFadden
15. Rob Kearney

16. Sean Cronin
17. Jack McGrath
18. Marty Moore
19. Quinn Roux
20. Sean O'Brien
21. Eoin Reddan
22. Jimmy Gopperth
23. Brendan Macken

Fireball07 · 28-09-2013 10:59pm

I expect it to be a fiery encounter.

A couple of yellow cards, a red card, and maybe a couple of month-long bans.....

And that's just on this forum!

danthefan · 28-09-2013 11:00pm

I think Hagz has it fairly spot on, won't be too many changes from that side.

Swiwi. · 28-09-2013 11:01pm

Hagz wrote: »

1. Cian Healy
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Mike Ross
4. Mike McCarthy
5. Devin Toner
6. Kevin McLaughlin
7. Jordi Murphy
8. Jamie Heaslip
9. Isaac Boss
10. Ian Madigan
11. Dave Kearney
12. Gordon D'Arcy
13. Brian O'Driscoll
14. Fergus McFadden
15. Rob Kearney

16. Sean Cronin
17. Jack McGrath
18. Marty Moore
19. Quinn Roux
20. Sean O'Brien
21. Eoin Reddan
22. Jimmy Gopperth
23. Brendan Macken

Has Murphy played much at 7? Otherwise I would tend to concur, although you'd want McCarthy to up his game a bit. No doubt you'll tell me Murphy's a natural 7, and made his name in that position...

Buer · 28-09-2013 11:02pm

I reckon there'll be a bit of niggle, alright. Always is. Few people wanting to put down markers. Few young upstarts wanting to make a name for themselves, some fading names raging against the dying of the light etc. I can see someone like Mike McCarthy being carded. He knows he's out of the Irish side unless he absolutely dominates Ryan physically.

Buer · 28-09-2013 11:03pm

Swiwi. wrote: »

Has Murphy played much at 7? Otherwise I would tend to concur, although you'd want McCarthy to up his game a bit. No doubt you'll tell me Murphy's a natural 7, and made his name in that position...

Well actually....

No, he made his name as an 8 but he can play 7 and has started there before for Leinster. I think SOB might come straight back into this one though with JM on the bench.

P_1 · 28-09-2013 11:03pm

Generic Munster banterish slagging #648

Swiwi. · 28-09-2013 11:05pm

Buer wrote: »

Well actually....

No, he made his name as an 8 but he can play 7 and has started there before for Leinster. I think SOB might come straight back into this one though with JM on the bench.

Phew, thought I'd lost the plot. I was swearing to myself he'd been playing at 8 in the games he's started this season.

thomond2006 · 28-09-2013 11:07pm

I reckon BOD deserves a rest after a great performance against Cardiff.

Tox56 · 28-09-2013 11:08pm

Buer wrote: »

SOB said himself this is his comeback game. Now that might mean from the bench but given the real issues Leinster had last night at flanker, I could see him starting.

Not a hope Ross will be on the bench though and I'd be surprised if KMcL wasn't in the side too. Murphy has done well but I think the best hope for him is the bench if at all.

SOB came back off a long injury against Glasgow away last year, and in a game where you really need to dominate the breakdown (as will be the case against Munster) he did exactly that, if he's fit he has to start for me.

Swiwi. wrote: »

Has Murphy played much at 7? Otherwise I would tend to concur, although you'd want McCarthy to up his game a bit. No doubt you'll tell me Murphy's a natural 7, and made his name in that position...

Was outstanding v Warburton at 7 this time last year so he can definitely play there, but he's no SOB. Unlucky because of all the back rowers his form is probably the best but he just doesn't fit in a McLaughlin-SOB-Heaslip backrow

P_1 · 28-09-2013 11:09pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

I reckon BOD deserves a rest after a great performance against Cardiff.

POC dropped a speculative cross kick today, clearly he was brought back about 2 weeks prematurely. Back into the cotton wool with him I say. For his own sake really...

Swiwi. · 28-09-2013 11:12pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

I reckon BOD deserves a rest after a great performance against Cardiff.

In your dreams boy. Or should that be fantasies :P

TheKeenMachine · 28-09-2013 11:13pm

Quint2010 wrote: »

McCarthy will surely start next week with Toner no? Be amazed also if SOB started.

I actually completely forgot we had signed him

Hagz · 28-09-2013 11:22pm

Swiwi. wrote: »

Has Murphy played much at 7? Otherwise I would tend to concur, although you'd want McCarthy to up his game a bit. No doubt you'll tell me Murphy's a natural 7, and made his name in that position...

Murphy played the majority of his rugby for the 'A' team at 7. Also, though I'm open to correction on this, I think he's played at 7 for the senior side as many times as he has in any other position. But 8 is certainly where he made his breakthrough and caught everyone's attention.

Tox56 · 28-09-2013 11:24pm

Healy
Strauss
Moore
McCarthy
Toner
McLaughlin
SOB
Heaslip
Boss
Madigan
D Kearney
D'Arcy
BOD
McFadden
R Kearney

If Fitzgerald is fit I would be tempted to move Kearney junior to 15 where he has impressed, but best thing would probably be to introduce him from the bench as the back 3 from the Cardiff game is more than capable.

Madigan one last chance to demand a start for the H Cup

Depending on the fitness of Bent we have to trust Moore to come off the bench in a H Cup match. And so we have to trust him here, these are the games he will learn from regardless of his performance

Bring McGrath on early, both resting Healy and battle hardening McGrath in the process. However if you bench Moore I would also bench Healy

Tox56 · 28-09-2013 11:26pm

Hagz wrote: »

Murphy played the majority of his rugby for the 'A' team at 7. Also, though I'm open to correction on this, I think he's played at 7 for the senior side as many times as he has in any other position. But 8 is certainly where he made his breakthrough and caught everyone's attention.

Disagree, if we're talking big breakout performance I would say that MOTM game v Cardiff (up against the Lions skipper no less) would have to be up there, he was on fire that day

Munster vs Drive-For-Five buildup

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