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Match Thread: Glasgow V Leinster KO: 19:35 TG4/BBC Alba

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    #302
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    blackdog1 wrote: »
    When I was playing rugby props were always pillars to take any big guys who picked from base of ruck. Scrumhalf usually stayed behind ruck to take anyone who went over the ruck. Thing is ross should have had scrum half and any ball back inside from scrumhalf. Mccarthy should have had first receiver. As soon as man came round the corner and took the ball of cusiter the man outside mccarthy took mccarthys man. Mccarthy should have stepped in and taken msn and ball..instead in no mans land and tackled nothing...he gave ross too much to do
    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    It certainly wasn't Ross's man. He did well to put a hand on him at all.

    Yeah that's what I meant. Ross was where he was meant to be but because those outside him weren't the defensive line was compromised at that point.
    blackdog1 wrote: »
    Think it was more tit goe tat myself a great battle..proper scrum battle. Disappointed in jack though thought we only put pressure on their tighthead when healey came on. Thought scrum really improved when toner came on and was behind ross

    There was one scrum when Ross was on that we got spanked in and Ross did bore in on another. But the whole time the Glasgow LH was trying to pull Ross down and for the most part Ross went nowhere. I don't understand why refs don't ping that more though. Props are not allowed to pull the man they're bound to down and surely this is the cause of a lot of collapsed scrums no?


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    #303
    ConFurioso
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    That's what I saw too, Ryan was blatantly pulling down on his bind. There was one scrum when the ref was watching their side, where he didn't pull and the scrum was won by Glasgow....maybe he didn't even need to be up to shenanegans.....


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    #304
    danthefan
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    Hmmm.

    Leinster were well beaten, flattered by the score. Bit worrying really.


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    #305
    Hersheys
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    danthefan wrote: »
    Hmmm.

    Leinster were well beaten, flattered by the score. Bit worrying really.

    I know it's no excuse but...

    Fanning pulled up just before the match started. Lote in. Back line jumbled.

    Lote off injured. RK in. 2 10's 2 15's on the pitch.

    Jennings off injured. Lose our groundhog, captain, leader. Ryan is a good player but Jennings is a great player.

    There was no cohesion. Glasgow were great at the breakdown (or we were poor). We missed a ruck operator. Kev Mc was fairly anonymous unfortunately.

    There was no clean ball for the backs to work with. It was scrappy.

    But the thing to remember: we got the BP playing like sh!te! Before the match had someone said "losing BP away to Glasgow in a close scoring game" we would have said yes.

    It's 3 games in. Win some. Lose some. Draw some. Things can only get better and we have some great players to come back in.


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    #306
    .ak
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    The one thing we really learnt from the game is unless it loosens up Gopperth couldn't organise his backline into any sort of incisive call. Most of the time he just wanted to put it through the hands. I'm not entirely sure Madigan could do that either, he's not exactly the playmaker 10 sterotype, but he has shown glimpses of it before.


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    #307
    ConFurioso
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    Hersheys wrote: »
    I know it's no excuse but...

    Fanning pulled up just before the match started. Lote in. Back line jumbled.

    Lote off injured. RK in. 2 10's 2 15's on the pitch.

    Jennings off injured. Lose our groundhog, captain, leader. Ryan is a good player but Jennings is a great player.

    There was no cohesion. Glasgow were great at the breakdown (or we were poor). We missed a ruck operator. Kev Mc was fairly anonymous unfortunately.

    There was no clean ball for the backs to work with. It was scrappy.

    But the thing to remember: we got the BP playing like sh!te! Before the match had someone said "losing BP away to Glasgow in a close scoring game" we would have said yes.

    It's 3 games in. Win some. Lose some. Draw some. Things can only get better and we have some great players to come back in.

    One more thing: It was Glasgow away. Let's not forget this team beat Ulster in Ravenhill, and are now regular play-off contenders. Their defense was great, and they played a very aggressive game which worked well for them. Their attack was awful though, not to mention the place kicking.

    Having slept on it, I'm not too pressed. We got the bonus point and the ****e game out of our system. I'd imagine we should flatted Cardiff which should springboard us nicely for Thomand Park.


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    #308
    Tox56
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    Hersheys wrote: »
    I know it's no excuse but...

    Fanning pulled up just before the match started. Lote in. Back line jumbled.

    Lote off injured. RK in. 2 10's 2 15's on the pitch.

    Jennings off injured. Lose our groundhog, captain, leader. Ryan is a good player but Jennings is a great player.

    There was no cohesion. Glasgow were great at the breakdown (or we were poor). We missed a ruck operator. Kev Mc was fairly anonymous unfortunately.

    There was no clean ball for the backs to work with. It was scrappy.

    But the thing to remember: we got the BP playing like sh!te! Before the match had someone said "losing BP away to Glasgow in a close scoring game" we would have said yes.

    It's 3 games in. Win some. Lose some. Draw some. Things can only get better and we have some great players to come back in.

    The players coming back in is the biggest thing for me. The two main issues are the lack of a threat at the breakdown in defence, and go forward ball.

    With that in mind you could hardly find 4 better players to bring in than Healy, SOB, Heaslip and BOD


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    #309
    Teferi
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    Off the back of that performance you'd have to be delighted with the losing bonus point.

    When should we expect an squad update?


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    #310
    Swiwi.
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    danthefan wrote: »
    Hmmm.

    Leinster were well beaten, flattered by the score. Bit worrying really.

    Ah, Dan, what's happened to handy bullet point form?! ;)


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    #311
    blackdog1
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    Biggest worry for me was breakdown and restarts. Never competed at restarts and they seemed to be slowing our ball down with 2 players at every ruck while we were putting 5 men in. They had numbers every time in defence


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    #312
    Phoeey
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    In fairness that close to the line when the defensive line politely stood aside it's hard to blame him. Rossy was the pillar off the ruck but there was no post (should that have been McCarthy?) which meant our scrummie had to push Ross out to the post position and take up the pillar position himself. Ross wasn't able to get into position properly and couldn't make the tackle. Our defensive organisation for that was really poor. Hard to expect much from your full-back at that stage, especially against a forward with momentum.

    You'd at least expect him to commit himself physically to the tackle. He's just so passive in the tackle which is really in contrast to his aggression in offense.


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    #313
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Teferi wrote: »
    Off the back of that performance you'd have to be delighted with the losing bonus point.

    When should we expect an squad update?

    I'd expect it on Tuesday


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    #314
    shuffol
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    It should be noted that Healy seemed to be pulling down on the jersey a fair bit when he came on too and never got pinged for it.


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    #315
    Dravokivich
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    shuffol wrote: »
    It should be noted that Healy seemed to be pulling down on the jersey a fair bit when he came on too and never got pinged for it.

    Glasgow were doing it a lot before healy got on. Recon its more of a case of get what ya give.


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    #316
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭Ugo Monye spacecraft experience


    Unrelated to the game but I'm really beginning to go off Neil Francis in a big way. He was on the last word the other night talking about the weekends rugby and made some bad errors, said on a few occasions that Ruan wasn't available to Ulster because he was playing agains the AB's this weekend


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    #317
    Swiwi.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    errlloyd wrote: »
    I'm tossing up switching over to watch the Americas cup.... Sailing or rugby....

    Sailing turning into a bit of a disaster for NZ. The word choke has reared its head on NZ websites...


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    #318
    errlloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 12,603 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Swiwi. wrote: »
    Sailing turning into a bit of a disaster for NZ. The word choke has reared its head on NZ websites...

    Yeah, it's bad - it is almost RWC 1991-2011 levels of choke.


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    #319
    Swiwi.
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    errlloyd wrote: »
    Yeah, it's bad - it is almost RWC 1991-2011 levels of choke.

    We can still win so it's not quite that bad yet...


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    #320
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    9 votes (10th was yours truly) for John Hayes is a ligind!

    You're getting there lads, you're getting there.


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    #321
    Morf
    Registered Users Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    9 votes (10th was yours truly) for John Hayes is a ligind!

    You're getting there lads, you're getting there.

    Soft hands like that only come along once in a generation.


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    #322
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    I did it for Thomand


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