Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

odyssey06

Dellboy54 wrote: »

Perhaps that mental block should be unblocked. Pub owners near abbey street will see there customer numbers drop. As have other areas with Wetherspoons....Dun Laoghaire, Swords, Cork......etc. Who would blame customers going for a €2/€3 pint rather than a €5/€6 pint.

We can but hope! There are a lot of pubs that need to raise their game, lower their prices, stop taking their punters for granted or see customer numbers drop.

And it won't be just pubs. Coffee shops, pizza-burger joints, bistros, sandwich shops.
I don't think Mulligans or Le Bon Crubeen have anything to worry about.
But average pubs and average food places do.

Dellboy54

BeerNut wrote: »

Have you a link for this? I'd be surprised about Cork in particular.

Ok, Cork may have been a bit of a stretch but definitely for Dun Laoghaire and Blackrock.

Geuze

JDW operating margin is 7.8%.

That is after all costs, except finance costs.

After finance costs, their pre-tax profit margin is 6.33%.

I have read about large pubs in Dublin expecting 30% net profit margins.

BeerNut

Dellboy54 wrote: »

definitely for Dun Laoghaire and Blackrock.

Definitely? Where have you seen this?

Dellboy54

BeerNut wrote: »

Definitely? Where have you seen this?

Taking a walk around either on Saturday evening you'll see both Wetherspoons busy while other pubs in the vicinity very quiet. For example Galway Bay Brewery had bars in both and both are closed.

BeerNut

Dellboy54 wrote: »

Taking a walk around either on Saturday evening you'll see both Wetherspoons busy while other pubs in the vicinity very quiet.

It's a leap to say this is because of Wetherspoon, and it's a bigger leap to use the observation to say numbers will drop for pubs around Abbey Street. There's no actual evidence to suggest this will happen.

Galway Bay has closed plenty of its outlets that weren't working out for them.

Dellboy54

BeerNut wrote: »

It's a leap to say this is because of Wetherspoon, and it's a bigger leap to use the observation to say numbers will drop for pubs around Abbey Street. There's no actual evidence to suggest this will happen.

Galway Bay has closed plenty of its outlets that weren't working out for them.

Fair enough, more of an observation then. Time will tell ;)Where else has GBB had outlets that have closed as a matter of interest?

Subcomandante Marcos

Dellboy54 wrote: »

Fair enough, more of an observation then. Time will tell ;)Where else has GBB had outlets that have closed as a matter of interest?

The cottage in Salthill and the cottage in Moycullen, and their restaurant in Galway city center, and their pub beside NUIG to name but 4 outlets.

Subcomandante Marcos

Dellboy54 wrote: »

Any of those near a wetherspoons?

Nope. Not a single weatherpoons within 200km of Galway.

And the bar in BlackRock always struggled. They even, from the start, tried serving macro beers as well as their own beers in an effort to keep the meager customer base it had when they took it on. It opened well before spoons and was barely making profit for years.

Dellboy54

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Nope. Not a single weatherpoons within 200km of Galway.

Was there an attempt to in Salthill a good few years back?

Subcomandante Marcos

Dellboy54 wrote: »

Was there an attempt to in Salthill a good few years back?

Nope.

Dellboy54

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Nope.

Not a wetherspoons fan?

Subcomandante Marcos

Dellboy54 wrote: »

Not a wetherspoons fan?

I enjoy a well conditioned cask ale at a good price as much as anyone.

L1011

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

tried serving macro beers as well as their own beers in an effort to keep the meager customer base it had when they took it on

Don't all their Dublin bars beyond the canals sell Guinness and a macro lager at least? Blackrock had effectively two entire banks of taps; macro + Full Sail on one side and the full own range on the other though.

Dellboy54

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Nope. Not a single weatherpoons within 200km of Galway.

And the bar in BlackRock always struggled. They even, from the start, tried serving macro beers as well as their own beers in an effort to keep the meager customer base it had when they took it on. It opened well before spoons and was barely making profit for years.

Didn't help though,
https://www-thejournal-ie.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.thejournal.ie/galway-bay-brewery-2312053-Sep2015/?amp=1&amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQDoAEB#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

L1011

Article claims the venue had recovered it's old trading levels (it's from 2015, the article date was displaying for me as 2019 but the pub closure gives it away), so if that's true it closed for other reasons

Brew Dock is full to capacity most of the time, it can likely shed some trade around the corner

Geuze

Did it open last night?

Is it open now?

I'm in Dublin now.

Plan C is to visit pubs along tram to Broombridge.

Muahahaha

Not sure Gueze but if going plan C of pubs near the Luas line then I'd suggest the Hacienda at the Smithfield fruit market and the Back Page in Phibsboro. Mohans 'The Hut' in Phibs a good spot too.

L1011

Tram to Broombridge - surprisingly poor level of pubs outside the city centre section; T O Brennans would be my standout favourite but Cumiskeys is more like some of the others you've listed.

hynesie08

The King's Inn is a belting boozer, between the Dominic St and Broadstone luas stops.

sceach16

Is it open for normal business?

Clegg

hynesie08 wrote: »

The King's Inn is a belting boozer, between the Dominic St and Broadstone luas stops.

The Kings Inn is a great example of a renovation done right. It has completely modernised it's fixtures and fittings, but still seems like the old pub. Feels like nothing has changed despite it being closed for 18 months.

Fan of Netflix

https://twitter.com/dublinbypub/status/1140976845690683392

Fan of Netflix

I notice the Dun Laghaoire one is a good bit cheaper? Are the prices different in each Dublin Spoons?

Beamish 2.95 in DL, 3.45 in Abbey St

Subcomandante Marcos

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

I notice the Dun Laghaoire one is a good bit cheaper? Are the prices different in each Dublin Spoons?

Beamish 2.95 in DL, 3.45 in Abbey St

Prices vary by location always.

A spoons in London city centre is a lot more expensive than a spoons In North Wales.

Fan of Netflix

Sure 3.45 Beamish is not far off the 3.70 Guinness in the Snug on Stephens St. Bit more of an atmosphere there too....:D Grand spot although maybe not somewhere to bring a date lol

Fan of Netflix

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Prices vary by location always.

A spoons in London city centre is a lot more expensive than a spoons In North Wales.

But Dun Laoghaire is a wealthier area, so charging cheaper prices vs Abbey Street seems like an attempt to keep out the riff raff. I did think at first them starting out in Blackrock and Dun Laoghaire was the idea there.

n97 mini

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Prices vary by location always.

A spoons in London city centre is a lot more expensive than a spoons In North Wales.

Prices here seem to work differently. Blanch is usually the most expensive. The cynic in me would suspect it's to price out certain clientele, rather than being based on commercial rates (I would say rent, except they own all their bars).

Subcomandante Marcos

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

But Dun Laoghaire is a wealthier area, so charging cheaper prices vs Abbey Street seems like an attempt to keep out the riff raff. I did think at first them starting out in Blackrock and Dun Laoghaire was the idea there.

The property in DL is substantially cheaper for them than property in Dublin city centre.

odyssey06

Does the Silver Penny have any terrace / beer garden? Thinking will be needed when summer eventually arrives...