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JOHN 3:7 needs a Hill 16 ticket for Sunday

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    #32
    sid waddell
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    theoneeyedman wrote: »
    Nothing for or against the man, but its strange to see him being tolerated by the GAA to broadcast his views. If he had a banner with say coca cola would he be tolerated, or say emirates airlines during a hurling game

    As an atheist, I'm going to bring along a sign saying "God Does Not Exist" and stand behind the goal at high profile matches from now on just to see what happens.


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    #33
    sid waddell
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    c_man wrote: »
    I agree with the statement, but it's hardly GAA endorse. It's one guy. Should we ban Confederate, Empire of Japan, Stars and Stripes flags (Cork people :pac: ) from matches?
    Hopefully we see a few Union Jacks at London's next Connacht championship match.


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    #34
    Prop Joe
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    sid waddell wrote: »
    Hopefully we see a few Union Jacks at London's next Connacht championship match.

    There were a few at the Connacht final this year,John 3:7 is a bit of a laugh always looked at it as an pun not a religious statement...Get a grip children its a bit of fun..You think someone is going to see the sign and subliminally become religious?


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    #35
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
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    Prop Joe wrote: »
    There were a few at the Connacht final this year,John 3:7 is a bit of a laugh always looked at it as an pun not a religious statement...Get a grip children its a bit of fun..You think someone is going to see the sign and subliminally become religious?

    What? Sure he's said as much that it's for religious reasons. He'd hardly be at 10+ championship games every year for the last 20 (?) if it was a bit of fun? He doesn't even interact with anyone, ye'd have thought he'd have at least made a friend along the way..


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    #36
    Prop Joe
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    THFC wrote: »
    What? Sure he's said as much that it's for religious reasons. He'd hardly be at 10+ championship games every year for the last 20 (?) if it was a bit of fun? He doesn't even interact with anyone, ye'd have thought he'd have at least made a friend along the way..

    Don't see how he is hurting anyone,It's a one-off guy and by accident it has become a tradition,In fairness when he is gone people will reminisce about him..Like it or not...Is he any worse than someone who brings a Joe Brolly/Pat Spillane is a bollox banner? or someone who dresses up as St.Patrick on All Ireland Club day? Stop demanding to be outraged


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    #37
    lisa_celtic
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    When I was young I thought that sign was in reference to John Caroll knocking up a score of 3-7... anything was possible with that guy on the pitch :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carroll_(hurler)


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    #38
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
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    Prop Joe wrote: »
    Don't see how he is hurting anyone,It's a one-off guy and by accident it has become a tradition,In fairness when he is gone people will reminisce about him..Like it or not...Is he any worse than someone who brings a Joe Brolly/Pat Spillane is a bollox banner? or someone who dresses up as St.Patrick on All Ireland Club day? Stop demanding to be outraged

    Em.... excuse me? Stop putting words in my mouth there like a good lad. I'm not outraged, I just don't like the man.

    And yes, there is a huge difference someone bringing a Pat Spillane is bollox banner. He's taking advantage of national sporting organisation to promote his religious beliefs, the former would be making a light-hearted insult at a GAA man at a GAA match, and if someone did bring a banner like that it would probably be taken off them by stewards.


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    #39
    Peppa Pig
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    THFC wrote: »
    He's taking advantage of national sporting organisation to promote his religious beliefs.
    Unlike the GAA who named the place after an archbishop .....;)


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    #40
    elefant
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    sid waddell wrote: »
    As an atheist, I'm going to bring along a sign saying "God Does Not Exist" and stand behind the goal at high profile matches from now on just to see what happens.

    I'm not an atheist, but that would be hilarious


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    #41
    phantom flagmen
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    Strange goings on on the Limerick train back to Portlaoise. me and the husband sitting minding our own business when that old guy who holds the JOHN 3.7 sign came up to us and said "Who won the match? " My husband said Cork and yer man says " Oh I know who won, I just wanted to hear it again, and proceeded to heap abuse on us. We asked him to leave, and he refused, he was trying to goad us into reacting to him. He was slagging me about being a Dub, trying to taunt my husband. It was very disturbing, and only when my husband told him he "wasn't being very Christian at he top of his voice, and embarrassed him into backing off. This man is dangerous and HATES Dublin supporters. He isn't charitable or Christian, he should shove his sign up his arse. Dubs beware.


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    #42
    Dirty Dingus McGee
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    elefant wrote: »
    I'm not an atheist, but that would be hilarious

    I'd say you could see a few of them if Mayo don't win the all ireland this year


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    #43
    Jake Rugby Walrus666
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    I notice John 3 7 wants a Hill ticket specificly. He's content to position himself in the davin stand in winter.
    What a waste of a ticket for the match when there's a lot of people who have an actual interest in the game of football that can't get tickets.


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    #44
    jalan8984
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    The people whinging in this thread are pathetic.


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    #45
    Billy Mays
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    I remember years ago being on the Hill and someone got hold of his sign and passed it back up the Hill. I thought he might have seen the funny side but he was absolutely seething. Anytime he got near it it would just be passed on to someone else. Took him about 15 minutes to get it back. I'm sure he would've got it back quicker if he didn't start shouting at everyone that they were going to hell. Gob****e doesn't deserve a ticket.


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    #46
    Diabhal Beag
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    Jake Rugby Walrus666 wrote: »
    What a waste of a ticket for the match when there's a lot of people who have an actual interest in the game of football that can't get tickets.
    He probably goes to more matches in one year than a good chunk who'll be at it have in the last 5 years in fairness. If there's cameras he's there but at least he's there.


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    #47
    PGT
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    It's not just a publicity stunt. He really does enjoy the game!


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    #48
    Honey-ec
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    c_man wrote: »
    I agree with the statement, but it's hardly GAA endorse. It's one guy. Should we ban Confederate, Empire of Japan, Stars and Stripes flags (Cork people :pac: ) from matches?

    I don't think anyone carrying those flags is doing it to make a political statement - they just happen to be the "right" colours.

    There's your difference.


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    #49
    Jake Rugby Walrus666
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    Diabhal Beag wrote: »
    He probably goes to more matches in one year than a good chunk who'll be at it have in the last 5 years in fairness. If there's cameras he's there but at least he's there.

    Yes but he's no there for the football. I personally would prefer a football fan from one of the four competing counties got the ticket that he's making a public pitch for. That's just my opinion. I'm sure he'll get a ticket and I hope he has a ball.


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    #50
    Realt Dearg Sec
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    Honey-ec wrote: »
    I don't think anyone carrying those flags is doing it to make a political statement - they just happen to be the "right" colours.

    There's your difference.

    What about a Nazi flag? That's the right colours too, why not fly it?


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    #51
    Joe prim
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    Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »
    What about a Nazi flag? That's the right colours too, why not fly it?

    It's actually a little-known fact that Hitler and his Irish half-brother were Cork Fans ( Adolf was mostly a hurling man, he found the football a bit violent)



    ( Warning; above fact may not be historically accurate)


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    #52
    padd b1975
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    Billy Mays wrote: »
    I remember years ago being on the Hill and someone got hold of his sign and passed it back up the Hill. I thought he might have seen the funny side but he was absolutely seething. Anytime he got near it it would just be passed on to someone else. Took him about 15 minutes to get it back. I'm sure he would've got it back quicker if he didn't start shouting at everyone that they were going to hell. Gob****e doesn't deserve a ticket.
    So they bullied the poor guy.

    What a bunch of childish cnuts.


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    #53
    Prop Joe
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    so its totally acceptable to shun this man on his religious beliefs alone? If he was an atheist and getting the same treatment there would be uproar? Kicking practising catholics seems to be an acceptable pastime.


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    #54
    hardybuck
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    Slightly off topic, but I've 2 spares for the Hogan tomorrow if anyone needs ticket.

    Update: Tickets now gone folks!


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    #55
    5uspect
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    Prop Joe wrote: »
    so its totally acceptable to shun this man on his religious beliefs alone? If he was an atheist and getting the same treatment there would be uproar? Kicking practising catholics seems to be an acceptable pastime.

    I don't go to GAA games with a sign saying God doesn't exist. Why should someone whose primary aim is to proselytise be given some sort of special treatment? Would you want to see a Muslim displaying a sign at every game saying apostates should be but to death?

    Religious freedom (which also includes freedom from religion) does not protect religion from criticism. The Catholic Church and it's apologists are quick to cry religious repression when anyone dares point to their many crimes or criticise their arrogant claim to a monopoly on morality. Anyone asking for equality, or simply pointing to the double standard, is branded as an aggressive secularist or in the case of one rather unchristian poster above as 'pathetic'.

    The notion that religious beliefs are in some way virtuous and not open to criticism, or even ridicule, is beyond rational discourse and our democracy. You can believe whatever you want, but don't expect anyone to either respect it or let you stand up in public with a great big sign and not be challenged about it. We are well able to apply this to most things (imagine a Fianna Fáil poster!) yet religion somehow gets a free pass?


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    #56
    Prop Joe
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    5uspect wrote: »
    You can believe whatever you want, but don't expect anyone to either respect it


    Oh deary:rolleyes:


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    #57
    Rebelheart
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    phantom flagmen wrote: »
    This man is dangerous and HATES Dublin supporters.... he should shove his sign up his arse. Dubs beware.

    Hehe. :-)


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    #58
    happyoutscan
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    Prop Joe wrote: »
    so its totally acceptable to shun this man on his religious beliefs alone?

    I'd suggest it's his erratically disturbing behavior which might have something to do with it, not particularly his religious views.


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    #59
    Fr Tod Umptious
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    I saw him in Hesuton station after the semi last week, (he was sitting in the Davin that day, which I noticed on TV later by the way)

    Had I know he was such a religious zelot I would have put him to death by stoning there and then.


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    #60
    Realt Dearg Sec
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    5uspect wrote: »
    I don't go to GAA games with a sign saying God doesn't exist. Why should someone whose primary aim is to proselytise be given some sort of special treatment? Would you want to see a Muslim displaying a sign at every game saying apostates should be but to death?

    Religious freedom (which also includes freedom from religion) does not protect religion from criticism. The Catholic Church and it's apologists are quick to cry religious repression when anyone dares point to their many crimes or criticise their arrogant claim to a monopoly on morality. Anyone asking for equality, or simply pointing to the double standard, is branded as an aggressive secularist or in the case of one rather unchristian poster above as 'pathetic'.

    The notion that religious beliefs are in some way virtuous and not open to criticism, or even ridicule, is beyond rational discourse and our democracy. You can believe whatever you want, but don't expect anyone to either respect it or let you stand up in public with a great big sign and not be challenged about it. We are well able to apply this to most things (imagine a Fianna Fáil poster!) yet religion somehow gets a free pass?

    ****e talk.


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    #61
    Duffy the Vampire Slayer
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    Prop Joe wrote: »
    so its totally acceptable to shun this man on his religious beliefs alone? If he was an atheist and getting the same treatment there would be uproar? Kicking practising catholics seems to be an acceptable pastime.

    He's not a Catholic.


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