who's the most talented - Gervais or Coogan

philstar

They're both of a similar age and equally funny, both have moved on to Hollywood to broaden their careers with each having mixed results.

But who is the most talented?? Gervais wrote the Office and Extras while Coogan created Partridge, Saxondale, Paul Calf...

Both are brilliant as live performers and have sold out everywhere they performed

So who gets your vote and why

For me its Coogan just for Partridge alone, i do find Gervais's humour a tad cruel at times.

fussyonion

Coogan all the way.

Have seen every single episode of I'm Alan Partridge, Knowing Me, Knowing You, Mid-Morning Matters etc and he's the only person on TV who can make me laugh out loud.
Going to see Alpha Papa tomorrow.

4zn76tysfajdxp

I used to think Gervais but, lately, Coogan has pipped it for me. He's been playing Partridge for 20-odd years without going stale, in sharp contrast to Gervais's recent and deperate attempts to revive Brent.

topcatcbr

Coogan for me.

Celly Smunt

Carell.

Sigourney

Gervais has weird little dolphin teeth and he laughs like his lungs are collapsing. Coogan every time.

I think Gervais is about as funny as a cracked nipple

kwestfan08

Tough call. Id go Coogan for TV, Gervais for live stand-up

*picks splinters out of arse due to sitting on the fence*

MadsL

No Father Ted option ?

SherlockWatson

Partridge is funnier to me than anything Gervais has ever done, including the office.

4zn76tysfajdxp

MadsL wrote: »

No Father Ted option ?

Well, neither of them played Father Ted, or had anything to do with it, so that would be completely irrelevant.

paddy147

MadsL wrote: »

No Father Ted option ?

paddy147

Gervais was in The Simpsons though.......


Does that count for anything??

4zn76tysfajdxp

paddy147 wrote: »

Gervais was in The Simpsons though.......


Does that count for anything??

Not since 1998. Especially since the episode he was in was atrocious.

Hande hoche!

paddy147 wrote: »

Gervais was in The Simpsons though.......


Does that count for anything??

Just my own opinion but that was an awful episode. Self indulgent ****e.

Sunglasses Ron

Tough, but Coogan.

Steve Coogan is a hard drinking coke snorting bird banging survivor of the Mdchester years who developed a brilliantly sad character completely different to himself.

As funny as the sadness of David Brent and Andy Millman are, you can't help but recognise in his stand up that they are an extension of Gervais himself.

Muise...

I liked Partridge's Sports Desk on The Day Today.

C.K Dexter Haven

Atari Jaguar:cool:

Hande hoche!

Muise... wrote: »

I liked Partridge's Sports Desk on The Day Today.

Well played

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVxf0YjyjdI

Sunglasses Ron

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Just my own opinion but that was an awful episode. Self indulgent ****e.

The previous one he co wrote was even worse. As much as I love the old Simpsons, if I were famous and asked to guest voice I wouldn't dare taint my legacy with a rubbish, completely plot irrelevant guest piece.

RayM

Coogan does a brilliant Irish accent. Better than any other British actor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJNGfUYMJNY

(skip to 1:25)

Femme_Fatale

Muise... wrote: »

I liked Partridge's Sports Desk on The Day Today.

And also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOUeauLWEaE

Hande hoche!

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

The previous one he co wrote was even worse. As much as I love the old Simpsons, if I were famous and asked to guest voice I wouldn't dare taint my legacy with a rubbish, completely plot irrelevant guest piece.

Was that the one where he fell in love with Marge and sang a song? Was dire.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Coogan was doing voice overs and impersonations for Spitting Image years before Partridge. All Gervais has really ever played is himself or Brent.

Rothko

I'm not a huge fan of Steve Coogan but I definitely prefer him to Ricky Gervais. I actually don't find Gervais funny at all and could never understand why he got so popular.

Son Of A Vidic

I remember Geravais starting out with Sacha Baron Cohen (as Ali G) on The 11 O'Clock Show in London back in 1998. Sacha stole the show and anyone I know who regularly watched it. Seems to remember Gervais as the sneering, unfunny twat, who tried too hard. All qualities he never lost. Not a big Coogan fan, but he beats said twat hands down.

Thepoet85

A- Haaaaaaah!!

Sunglasses Ron

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Was that the one where he fell in love with Marge and sang a song? Was dire.

It's been a great many years since I watched her on the Sky debut, but it was some sort of Wife Swap reality set up plot. It was ****ing dire. I loved The Office and Extras (although upon rewatching, Extras has less repeat appeal than The Office did) but that episode was horrendous.

The Backwards Man

The Day Today was class, they only made six or seven episodes, but it was sheer genuis. Drop the Dead Donkey, on the other hand, was a steaming pile of sh1te!

Sorry, what was the question again?

Muise...

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

And also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOUeauLWEaE

I'm on a train so I can't watch this. I just imagined it though. "I don't know if you've seen 'Women In Love'. There's a marvellous scene by the fire. It kind of resembled that."

fussyonion

For me, this will always be one of Coogan's best scenes.
I've seen this episode dozens of times and every time it makes me laugh until I'm crying.
He's a genius;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFtcPdrpOHE

dirtyden

Suas11 wrote: »

I'm not a huge fan of Steve Coogan but I definitely prefer him to Ricky Gervais. I actually don't find Gervais funny at all and could never understand why he got so popular.

I never liked either Coogan or Gervais as stand-ups. But The office and Extras were absolute tv gold, as was partridge (the rest of Coogan's tv was poor though). On their tv output id go with Gervais, the last Alan patridge series I thought was poor enough.

bucketybuck

Gervais isn't fit to wipe Coogans boots.

mfceiling

Charlee Crashing Rabbit wrote: »

Coogan was doing voice overs and impersonations for Spitting Image years before Partridge. All Gervais has really ever played is himself or Brent.

Take it you never watched Derek?

Coogan is an impressionist as well as creating characters.

Gervais just does character driven work as well as the stand up.

To be honest i'm not sure if either men are bothered as they sit at home tonight with millions in the bank.

I did read the Alan Partridge book "I Partridge..We need to talk about Alan" and it was fúcking hilarious.

kraggy

Gervais is about as funny as finding out your girlfriend is pregnant.

By your best friend.

On your birthday.

Which happens to be your last birthday because you're terminally ill.

MadsL

C.K Dexter Haven wrote: »

Atari Jaguar:cool:

Don't be disrespectful. It's Fr. Jaguar to you.

Muise...

kraggy wrote: »

Gervais is about as funny as finding out your girlfriend is pregnant.

By your best friend.

On your birthday.

Which happens to be your last birthday because you're terminally ill.

well that all worked out neatly.

Aineoil

All Gervais has really ever played is himself or Brent.

What the hell? Now I am totally confused, I thought Gervais was Brent, or was Brent Gervais. I find these reality shows way too difficult to understand.

Aineoil

Originally Posted by kraggy View Post
Gervais is about as funny as finding out your girlfriend is pregnant.

By your best friend.

On your birthday.

Which happens to be your last birthday because you're terminally ill.

Is this true????

Femme_Fatale

kraggy wrote: »

Gervais is about as funny as finding out your girlfriend is pregnant.

By your best friend.

On your birthday.

Which happens to be your last birthday because you're terminally ill.

No way is Gervais that hilarious!

Sunglasses Ron

Aineoil wrote: »

All Gervais has really ever played is himself or Brent.

What the hell? Now I am totally confused, I thought Gervais was Brent, or was Brent Gervais. I find these reality shows way too difficult to understand.

From watching the stand up the Gervais characters are certainly an extension of Gervais himself mixed in with people he has met.

Compared to Coogan. He is a hard drinking hard sessioning Manc who just had an aptitude for creating a right wing boring conservative sexually repressed oddball character. I remember seeing him out of character 12 or so years ago and couldn't believe it was the same guy. He seems, unfortunately for him, to physically resemble his boring character more now as he approaches middle age without the need for make up :pac:

JRant

Coogan is liquid comedy. Much funnier than Gervais IMHO.

Back of the net.

Yamanoto

BBC 2 are currently repeating 'The Trip' on Friday nights.

A terrific watch & quite a brave departure for Coogan, touching as it does on his dissatisfaction with career, fame and personal relationships.

He's always trumped Gervais for me, though it does appear particularly fashionable to have a real pop at our Rick of late.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8GKvVwjA_o

Sunglasses Ron

JRant wrote: »

Coogan is liquid comedy. Much funnier than Gervais IMHO.

Back of the net.

TWAT!!!

That....was liquid posting!

RayM

My favourite scene from The Trip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnwJPViexgg

"Drink it!"

fryup

Ricky Gervais for me...just for the Golden Globes alone, his monologue was flawless

i ask you who else would have the backbone to rip the p!ss out of Hollywood esp when surrounded by so many movie legends, it made a refreshing change from the butt kissing event that it usually is

Stereomaniac

Ricky Gervais is more talented, for my money. The Office and Cemetery Junction are both amazing.

Sunglasses Ron

fryup wrote: »

Ricky Gervais for me...just for the Golden Globes alone, his monologue was flawless

i ask you who else would have the backbone to rip the p!ss out of Hollywood esp when surrounded by so many movie legends, it made a refreshing change from the butt kissing event that it usually is

Apart from Richard Pryor and Chris Rock, in 80 odd years he was the only host who would be tempted to bring edgy material. Check the list, all the rest were safe bets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscars_hosts

Zebra3

Gervais was also a total kunt to Pilkington in An Idiot Abroad.

He basically bullied the bloke and the only ones laughing was Gervais and the other muppet who created the show with him.

Femme_Fatale

Zebra3 wrote: »

Gervais was also a total kunt to Pilkington in An Idiot Abroad.

He basically bullied the bloke and the only ones laughing was Gervais and the other muppet who created the show with him.

Pilkington was in on it in fairness. No they weren't the only ones laughing - I also laughed my hole off. :pac:

hidinginthebush

Zebra3 wrote: »

Gervais was also a total kunt to Pilkington in An Idiot Abroad.

He basically bullied the bloke and the only ones laughing was Gervais and the other muppet who created the show with him.

I always thought that. I loved extras and the office, but an idiot abroad just consists if him taking the piss out of a "mate" and doing that really annoying forced laugh of his.

On topic coogan for me. The recent "places of my life" show is alan partridge at his absolute best! Highly recommend it.