What's the story with the so-called liberals on After Hours?

bullhits

They come out with their whole "live and let live" lines, yet when people have different opinions to them, "live and let live" goes out the window.

It's fascinating reading comments from people complaining about issues, and then complaining about people who take to the streets to protest about those or other issues. The excuses are laughable, such as when they say they don't want to protest about an issue because some other people at the protest don't share their exact political beliefs. Apparently protesting achieves nothing anyway. History begs to differ.

It's interesting too when conflicting views lead to violence and public disorder. If it's in a faraway place there's nothing all that wrong with it, fair play to the side fighting for the viewpoint they agree with. If it's closer to home violence and public order should be clamped down on by the state, liberalism goes out the window, and those who use violence should be condemned and discredited. Pity for them that the roots of liberalism go back to violent revolution.

Many of these so-called liberals wet themselves over news items about the British royal family, yet liberals should fundamentally oppose monarchies and hereditary privilege.

I particularly enjoy the "Legalise Cannabis" brigade who go on about how it's got so many uses apart from getting people high - it's good for medicinal purposes, and it's good for making rope. Why not call a spade a spade and say you want it legalised so you can use it legally to get stoned? The Legalise Cannabis crowd are a joke. I'll pay attention to one of these groups when they advocate the legalisation of Heroin too. You do realise that a lot of the problems associated with heroin stem from it being illegal? No, thought not.

Some people like to describe themselves as liberals, but let's be honest, they're not. Live and let live, unless you have a different opinion to me and dare to stand up for it.

princess-lala

I wouldn't say they're only on AH!

I'd say its a worldwide thing imo!

wazky

This thread will have a well rounded discussion with both sides making well rounded and informed posts, and will end when both sides have agreed to disagree.

Oh wait no, the complete opposite.

PhlegmyMoses

Who exactly are you arguing against here? It's like you've made up some position to argue against that isn't really there.

Cody Pomeray

bullhits wrote: »

Some people like to describe themselves as liberals, but let's be honest, they're not. Live and let live, unless you have a different opinion to me and dare to stand up for it.

Sounds like you're confusing liberals with people who never defend their opinions. There's nothing illiberal about standing your ground on a certain topic. Or even about defending cannabis for recreational use.

princess-lala

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Who exactly are you arguing against here?

Just mad for a row with anyone!

ColeTrain

How DARE you insult liberals. I say bring back capital punishment for people who are against liberals.

Legs.Eleven

How do you know they're liberals? That's a presumption you've made about them.

bullhits

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Who exactly are you arguing against here? It's like you've made up some position to argue against that isn't really there.

I'm arguing against the so-called liberals. They're everywhere on here.

OneArt

ColeTrain wrote: »

How DARE you insult liberals. I say bring back capital punishment for people who are against liberals.

FASCIST!!

Take your fashion policing elsewhere:mad:

TeddyTedson

bullhits wrote: »

I'm arguing against the so-called liberals. They're everywhere on here.

A few examples there newbie :P

princess-lala

bullhits wrote: »

I'm arguing against the so-called liberals. They're everywhere on here.

You're never gonna get a topic everyone will agree on!!!

ColeTrain

OneArt wrote: »

FASCIST!!

Take your fashion policing elsewhere:mad:

How DARE you insult Facists. I say bring back capital punishment for people who are against Facists.

southcentralts

bullhits wrote: »

I'm arguing against the so-called liberals. They're everywhere on here.

Are they the ones who start each post with "As a Liberal, I feel"

kupus

How dare you insult the liberal agenda with your inane dribbling in after hours, im so enraged i dont know what im supposed to be enraged about again, oh where is my location again? Wheres me knickers

1ZRed

It is live and let live until someone comes along with a bigoted opinion and hides behind "well that's just my option" thinking that'll keep them safe, when they get challenged it's the nasty hypocritical liberals that are to blame, not their viewpoints at all.

That's how I see it play out usually anyway.

Peregrine

bullhits wrote: »

I'm arguing against the so-called liberals. They're everywhere on here.

That's not an argument, that's a few paragraphs of accusations and generalisations.

princess-lala

OP can't even start a proper argument :rolleyes:

bullhits

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

That's not an argument, that's a few paragraphs of accusations and generalisations.

It's not an argument until one of them has the balls to take me on.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

bullhits wrote: »

It's not an argument until one of them has the balls to take me on.

Hepls if you make a coherent point first.

tritium

I'm not sure I'd agree that the phenomena is about liberals per se. There's a subset of AH posters however who are of the " I'm right, everyone else is racist/sexist/ homophobic/etc" bent. I don't mean those who defend a position BTW, rather those who think snide insults or out and out calling someone a racist.for example if they dare suggest that someone else may have a valid point that doesn't support theirs. There's been quite a few examples in the last few months, generally when someone suggests that whites or men can suffer discrimination for example. Tbh boards is the poorer for it

bullhits

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

You're a troll.

How was that?

I'm not sure how stating the truth is trolling.

1ZRed

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

That's not an argument, that's a few paragraphs of accusations and generalisations.

You actually read it? I don't bother my ass to read anything with 'liberals' in the title, just barely skim to get the gist of it and that's it.

shane9689

damn so-called conservatives ruining boards...kill em all! kill me all i say!

Links234

bullhits wrote: »

It's not an argument until one of them has the balls to take me on.

Take you on over what? you've got a vague rant about some strawman "liberals" you've concocted in your head

bullhits

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Hepls if you make a coherent point first.

Plenty of points people can challenge in the first post.

bullhits

Links234 wrote: »

Take you on over what? you've got a vague rant about some strawman "liberals" you've concocted in your head

Have a read again there, I just described most of the threads in After Hours.

endacl

You're all wrong and I'm right. This being the Internet, by the way, any argument you make to the contrary is also wrong.

It's not their fault. They had a rough time growing up and bring back hanging.

That should wrap this thread up nicely.

princess-lala

bullhits wrote: »

Plenty of points people can challenge in the first post.

Ah here!

You want a row! Go into your bedroom and fight with yourself! Troll!

Peregrine

1ZRed wrote: »

You actually read it? I don't bother my ass to read anything with 'liberals' in the title, just barely skim to get the gist of it and that's it.

At first, no. But then I was curious at what kind of insight is possessed by a user who's been here for 24 hours.

1ZRed

Do you troll boards every single day or something under a new persona? Because it's always the same shite.

bullhits

princess-lala wrote: »

Ah here!

You want a row! Go into your bedroom and fight with yourself! Troll!

Ah now princess, I'm a lover not a fighter.

Nodin

bullhits wrote: »

Plenty of points people can challenge in the first post.

Ok. I'm liberal and I say its mostly crap. Over to you....

pharmaton

its like trying to juggle with jelly

bullhits

Nodin wrote: »

Ok. I'm liberal and I say its mostly crap. Over to you....

Weak argument, you haven't addressed any of the points made, jog on kid.

princess-lala

bullhits wrote: »

Ah now princess, I'm a lover not a fighter.

Stop trying to fight with us all so

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

bullhits wrote: »

I'm not sure how stating the truth is trolling.

I did take that back, in fairness - but not knowing the sifference between "the truth" and "an opinion" is getting close in fairness.

bullhits wrote: »

Plenty of points people can challenge in the first post.

I did say "coherent". You OP is more of a rant and an argueble point.

1ZRed

bullhits wrote: »

Ah now princess, I'm a lover schizophrenic not a fighter.

FYP

Links234

bullhits wrote: »

Have a read again there, I just described most of the threads in After Hours.

I've read it and no, you didn't really. You described, well... nothing but your own imagined "liberal"

I'd be considered about as liberal as it comes, why don't you argue against me instead of nebulous generalizations you've plucked from nowhere?

Nodin

bullhits wrote: »

Weak argument, you haven't addressed any of the points made, jog on kid.

If it's in a faraway place there's nothing all that wrong with it, fair play to
the side fighting for the viewpoint they agree with. If it's closer to home
violence and public order should be clamped down on by the state, liberalism
goes out the window, and those who use violence should be condemned and
discredited. Pity for them that the roots of liberalism go back to violent
revolution.

*snicker

Many of these so-called liberals wet themselves over news items about the
British royal family, yet liberals should fundamentally oppose monarchies and
hereditary privilege.

Ahh, the lolz

I particularly enjoy the "Legalise Cannabis" brigade who go on about how it's
got so many uses apart from getting people high - it's good for medicinal
purposes, and it's good for making rope. Why not call a spade a spade and say
you want it legalised so you can use it legally to get stoned?

More comedy gold....

NuckingFacker

I'm a liberal fascist. I'm broadly against everything.

Peregrine

1ZRed wrote: »

bullhits wrote: »

Ah now princess, I'm a lover schizophrenic not a fighter.

FYP

Oh so schizophrenics can't fight, is that what you're saying?? :pac:


Off with his head :mad:

Sinfonia

bullhits wrote: »

They come out with their whole "live and let live" lines, yet when people have different opinions to them, "live and let live" goes out the window.

It's fascinating reading comments from people complaining about issues, and then complaining about people who take to the streets to protest about those or other issues. The excuses are laughable, such as when they say they don't want to protest about an issue because some other people at the protest don't share their exact political beliefs. Apparently protesting achieves nothing anyway. History begs to differ.

It's interesting too when conflicting views lead to violence and public disorder. If it's in a faraway place there's nothing all that wrong with it, fair play to the side fighting for the viewpoint they agree with. If it's closer to home violence and public order should be clamped down on by the state, liberalism goes out the window, and those who use violence should be condemned and discredited. Pity for them that the roots of liberalism go back to violent revolution.

Many of these so-called liberals wet themselves over news items about the British royal family, yet liberals should fundamentally oppose monarchies and hereditary privilege.

Y'know, people be dumb and stuff. Hardly a revelation.

bullhits wrote:

I particularly enjoy the "Legalise Cannabis" brigade who go on about how it's got so many uses apart from getting people high - it's good for medicinal purposes, and it's good for making rope. Why not call a spade a spade and say you want it legalised so you can use it legally to get stoned? The Legalise Cannabis crowd are a joke. I'll pay attention to one of these groups when they advocate the legalisation of Heroin too. You do realise that a lot of the problems associated with heroin stem from it being illegal? No, thought not.

Some people like to describe themselves as liberals, but let's be honest, they're not. Live and let live, unless you have a different opinion to me and dare to stand up for it.

I don't see why people find it so hypocritical to advocate for the legality of one drug and not another; not all drugs produce the same effects.
For what it's worth, I don't use cannabis, and wouldn't if it were legal, but I do think it should be legal, for whatever people want it for.
As for heroin, I'm not sure about legality, but decriminalisation makes a lot of sense to me. (Note: an opinion like that may cause people to consider me a big lefty liberal or whatever, but that kind of definition is such a load of bollocks; it's one issue. One.)

Karl Stein

You were describing TINA's and conservatives until you got to the cannabis bit and it all fell apart - at least for me.

endacl

When did that narrow and incorrect interpretation of the word 'liberal' escape from the confines of the US?

I remember a time when the world liberal meant 'liberal'. These days people tend to use it in the sense of 'liberal' as opposed to 'liberal', or even 'liberal'.

Can we go back to the old way please? Fox News are welcome to 'liberal', once we get to go back to using liberal as it is actually supposed to be used. To describe things that are 'liberal'.

Thank you.

kupus

Im an equal opportunities racist......I just hate everybody

bullhits

I just want a hug tbh.

endacl

bullhits wrote: »

I just want a hug tbh.

A liberally applied one?

Clandestine

I don't mind liberals as such but I cannot stand certain policies being pushed by liberals in the USA and elsewhere

e.g affirmative action, restrictions on free speech ("offensive" mainly), gun restrictions etc.

pharmaton

bullhits wrote: »

I just want a hug tbh.

*hug*

bullhits

I should make it clear that I'm not anti-liberal. I just think some people are hypocrites that live in a fantasy world.