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Methods of Execution.

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    #62
    GottaGetGatt
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    One bullet, BANG BANG!!


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    #63
    namloc1980
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    MJ23 wrote: »
    1 bullet, bang bang
    GottaGetGatt wrote: »
    One bullet, BANG BANG!!

    Terrible echo in here.


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    #64
    kneemos
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Terrible echo in here.

    It's the ricochet.


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    #65
    Some12
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    Blast them with piss until they drown


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    #66
    UCDVet
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    Why need to ask ourselves *why* we'd have a death penalty.

    Some people believe it is to be a deterrent against crime. If that is the case - it should be HORRIFIC and PUBLIC. We need to show would-be criminals just how brutal it is. It should be shown on the news and it should take days of horrible torture before they are permitted to die.

    If it is meant to be punishment - well - the reasonable thing is to let the victim/victim's families decide, or to kill them in a way fitting their crimes. Did they rape and murder someone? Well, there ya go - rape them and murder them the same way.

    If it is for economic reasons - because we don't to pay for/care for someone in jail....then we should kill them in a cheap and efficient way. We can look to the animal slaughter industry and get one of those metal spikes into the skull things. Or, if there is a market for it - create a gladiator style death-sport that could generate revenue.

    If we're going to kill them because they are too mentally sick/too dangerous/too evil to remain - and we just need to get rid of them - might as well let them decide. Given the rate at which rich/famous celebs manage to kill themselves on drugs, I think we could just give them some meth/cocaine/alcohol and let them have a good night.


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    #67
    biko
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    Drowning in vat of wine.


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    #68
    My name is URL
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    Bruthal wrote: »
    It was available in Utah up to 2004, and was an option inmates could choose. I think 3 are still awaiting execution who chose it before it was removed as an option, so it might still happen.

    There was a guy executed by firing squad in Utah in 2010. He threatened to sue if he was not allowed to die in that way.
    Gardner was executed on June 18, 2010, at 12:15 am Mountain Daylight Time by a firing squad at Utah State Prison in Draper. He was placed in restraints on a black metal chair with a hood covering his head. Sandbags were arranged around him to absorb ricochets. The firing squad was made up of five anonymous volunteers who were certified police officers. The officers stood about 25 feet (7.6 m) from Gardner, aiming at a white target positioned over his heart. One of their .30-caliber Winchester rifles was selected at random and loaded with a non-lethal wax bullet so that they would not know with certainty who fired the fatal shots.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Lee_Gardner#Execution


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    #69
    Capt'n Midnight
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    There was a guy executed by firing squad in Utah in 2010. He threatened to sue if he was not allowed to die in that way.
    One of their .30-caliber Winchester rifles was selected at random and loaded with a non-lethal wax bullet so that they would not know with certainty who fired the fatal shots.
    I've heard it's a different recoil so maybe not.


    Was it Singapore who used a fixed machine gun so no chances of missing ?

    China no longer bill the family for the cost of the bullet so slightly more civilised.


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    #70
    rolliepoley
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    Gas chamber has'nt been mentioned.


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    #71
    Martha Squeaking Apparel
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    Half an hour in front of TV3's coverage, of any sport.


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    #72
    end of the road
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    dodderangler wrote: »
    Put a blindfold on and get on the knees and face the wall. Bullet to the head. Same way the Chinese do it. End of story
    that method costs billions though as each member of the firing squad will need enough money to set them up for life, 1000000000 per member per execution should do it, so jail will actually be cheeper in the long run

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #73
    end of the road
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Doesnt have to be a deterrant
    how lovely, thats good to know
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    just has to stop reoffending.
    prison for life will do the same thing and for less cost to the tax payer

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #74
    end of the road
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    MJ23 wrote: »
    1 bullet, bang bang

    no, wrong, thats 2 bullets, bang is 1 while bang bang is 2

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #75
    Rasheed
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    end of the road wrote: »
    no, wrong, thats 2 bullets, bang is 1 while bang bang is 2

    The 'One bullet, bang bang' is part of a D'Unbelievables sketch.


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    #76
    Wibbs
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    rolliepoley wrote: »
    Gas chamber has'nt been mentioned.
    Truly awful way to go out.

    Long drop hanging is essentially a decapitation, but without(usually) removing the head. Because of the massive shock of the stop at the end of the fall instant deep unconsciousness results followed by brain death soon after, so of the traditional methods by far the best in a humane sense. Non long drop hanging seems to vary. Some seem to switch off very quickly, where others writhe in agony for minutes.

    The guillotine another decapitation but chances are you'd feel it, for a few seconds anyway, though the oft reported story of the head responding to stimulus for up to 20 seconds after the blade fell while titillatingly ghoulish is almost certainly bogus. Interestingly Nazi Germany used the guillotine a lot for official capital crimes. Other decapitation methods like axes or swords would be very messy and gruesome.

    Firing squad you'd certainly feel. While blood loss from the heart wound would obviously result in death, it would take a fair few seconds before pain sensations would stop, hence the coup de grace to make sure.

    Electrocution you'd feel if witnesses are anything to go by.

    One could argue that since the dead have no memory, cruelty doesn't come into it as the pain can't be recalled. State/culture fueled cruelty however is a very real issue far beyond the individual.

    Nitrogen asphyxiation for the win.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #77
    Bruthal
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    I've heard it's a different recoil so maybe not.

    I'd say the rifles are probably fixed down, rather than free standing marksmen.


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    #78
    COYVB
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    There are no good modern methods IMO. Something easy and straightforward like a chair with an adjustable projectile emitting device (like a gun) for a perfect headshot, triggered remotely, would be ideal. There's nobody pulling the trigger, there's no waiting around for someone to die. It'd be clean, easy straightforward


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    #79
    Guy:Incognito
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    end of the road wrote: »
    how lovely, thats good to know

    prison for life will do the same thing and for less cost to the tax payer

    How many people go to prison for their whole lives here?

    Kill a couple of people in you early 20's and you'll be going about your business before your out of your 30's. Or even your 20's in plenty of cases.


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    #80
    Guy:Incognito
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    end of the road wrote: »
    that method costs billions though as each member of the firing squad will need enough money to set them up for life, 1000000000 per member per execution should do it, so jail will actually be cheeper in the long run

    Why? Being a member of the firing squad would be their job, not just a one off gig.


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    #81
    NegativeCreep
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    Scaphism, flaying or boiling would be my preferred method tbh.


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    #82
    rolliepoley
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    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    Scaphism, flaying or boiling would be my preferred method tbh.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83829362&postcount=1


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    #83
    Amirani
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    rolliepoley wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83829362&postcount=1

    You should form some sort of a club.


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    #84
    BNMC
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    2 bullets, bang bang bang.


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    #85
    NegativeCreep
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    rolliepoley wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83829362&postcount=1

    I'd prefer to put them in cold water and slowly bring it to the boil.


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    #86
    rolliepoley
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    BNMC wrote: »
    2 bullets, bang bang bang.

    That would be three.

    :P


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    #87
    enfant terrible
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Electric Chair. I always found this a rather gruesome method, it doesn't always work right. The case of Alan Davis in Florida for example in 2000. He was a monster but he suffered something fierce on the night of his execution when the chair malfunctioned. Staff were prosecuted after it (Cruel and Unusual Punishment) and the chair method was banned from Florida State afterwards.

    Didn't suffer nearly as much as the woman and two children he murdered.


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    #88
    ScumLord
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    Ten of Swords wrote: »
    Nitrogen Asphyxiation seems to be the method of the future...

    http://www.gistprobono.org/ihhp/id1.html
    With gas you could do a two for one as well. The Germans have already shown gas is a highly efficient way of killing lot's of people.


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    #89
    Riddle101
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Shane Coates wasn't as bad as the media made him out to be. They were still somebodies sons, brother, father, partner in fairness. They paid the ultimate price for their choices in life.

    1. Wasn't as bad as the media portrayed them? Yeah right. They were ruthless thugs and were among Dublin's most notorious criminals. Shane Coates more so then Stephen Suggs. Sugg was more of a lackey, while Coates was the boss. But Both did bad things too. Wasn't Coates nicknamed the "New Psycho" or something. After PJ Judge the original "Psycho".

    2. I don't see why families or loved ones should be brought into this. It doesn't stop what those two guys were. Sorry but no sympathies for the family.


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    #90
    dodderangler
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Of course it actually costs more to execute someone in the US than lifetime incarceration but hey lets ignore that fact. And looking to China as a model of justice and punishment... bloody hell.

    How can 1.3 billion people be wrong!


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    #91
    rolliepoley
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    Riddle101 wrote: »
    1. Wasn't as bad as the media portrayed them? Yeah right. They were ruthless thugs and were among Dublin's most notorious criminals. Shane Coates more so then Stephen Suggs. Sugg was more of a lackey, while Coates was the boss. But Both did bad things too. Wasn't Coates nicknamed the "New Psycho" or something. After PJ Judge the original "Psycho".

    2. I don't see why families or loved ones should be brought into this. It doesn't stop what those two guys were. Sorry but no sympathies for the family.

    Did you know coates and suggs?


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