Mod not on Licence

Tawny Owl

I was reading away here the other day, as I am interested in applying for a .223 I came across a thread where a fellow poster was talking about a restricted and non-restricted licence, this got me thinking I never seen the "S" on my licence, as I applied for this over 2 years ago and will be due a renewal on the gun next year. I called to the Garda Station next day and gave my licence number for that Gun the trace on the pulse system was done and NO it's not listed, here we go if I was before I knew this was stopped and had this Mod on the Gun what would have happened, and also more important can I highlight this when the renewal comes in and get this sorted:eek::eek:

Cass

This is why i tell people not to accept letters of authorisation. While legally it's valid it's not on PULSE unless the magic "S" is on the license.

If caught with a mod on a firearm without the "S" (or even the letter) you are in possession of an unlicensed firearm. Apply to have it put on your license immediately. If you are in for a renewal now then apply for it under section 3.2 (by ticking the box). Then write on a separate piece of paper why you need it.

Keep it locked in the safe and do not use it until the matter is sorted.

Tawny Owl

How do I apply to add it on now as the Licence is not due till next year, do I just write a letter and send this to the FO in the local station, They know me very well as I am the Secretary of my Club, how I missed this is I just don't know too much running around after others, anyway thanks for the advice.

Cass

The "proper" way is to apply with an FCA1 as it's classed as a firearm. This will incur another €80.

My way is to go to your FO, inform him that you applied for it with the firearm, and you've noticed it's not on the license. Ask him his advice on how to proceed. he might be able to sort you out quicker, easier, cheaper and stress free.

One shot on kill

That's what I'd do go in see the fo. One guy is on holidays the other guy is there now and that's the man you want to see hands down if you need he name again pm me.

He is a gent and Very reasonable. By the book definitely he is but he wants to help lads infairness.

tomtucker81

Call to see your F.O. As Cass said, explain that you had applied for it initially and give reasons for wanting it.

They might want you to write a letter outlining these reasons, or possibly just accept your reasons from your conversation.

The S can be sorted for you in two ways. 1, by the F.O. ticking a box on the computer on your original file, whereby a reprint arrives at your home a few days later.(saw mine done this way)
2, by you filling in another application form solely for the moderator. This way it has a seperate licence and will cost you €80.

Obviously 1 is the best option. Call to the station to talk to the F.O. Hopefully they can get you sorted out handy enough

Tawny Owl

tomtucker81 wrote: »

Call to see your F.O. As Cass said, explain that you had applied for it initially and give reasons for wanting it.

They might want you to write a letter outlining these reasons, or possibly just accept your reasons from your conversation.

The S can be sorted for you in two ways. 1, by the F.O. ticking a box on the computer on your original file, whereby a reprint arrives at your home a few days later.(saw mine done this way)
2, by you filling in another application form solely for the moderator. This way it has a seperate licence and will cost you €80.

Obviously 1 is the best option. Call to the station to talk to the F.O. Hopefully they can get you sorted out handy enough

I did write a letter at the time of application, explaining the reasons why I wanted it added, just missed it, I am off tomorrow so I am paying a visit to the local I only hope the FO is on duty. Thanks anyway.

Tawny Owl

Cass wrote: »

The "proper" way is to apply with an FCA1 as it's classed as a firearm. This will incur another €80.

My way is to go to your FO, inform him that you applied for it with the firearm, and you've noticed it's not on the license. Ask him his advice on how to proceed. he might be able to sort you out quicker, easier, cheaper and stress free.

Thanks all especially Cass for steering me in the right direction, I went to the local FO who just happened to be on duty, and got the "S" added to my licence, which I am told will replace the one I have and with no payment due as I showed him the original paperwork, He was very helpful I could not thank him enough it was just missed on my application. now lads the Garda can help once you explain they are more then willing to go the extra Mile. Thanks again to my FO.:D :D.

tomtucker81

Same way mine was sorted. Glad you got the result you were looking for, just wait the two or three days for the new licence before you break out the mod!!

Tawny Owl

I received the replacement licence this morning, but it looks the same as the first one issued, I might be going blind where is this "S" on the licence to show I have permission to have a Mod on the gun

Cass

Bottom left side. On the front.

Tawny Owl

Nothing there Cass

Cass

Not on the license so.

Cass

Contact your FO. Explain you got the license with no "S" on it. As him to check PULSE.

If it were on PULSE then the license should be printed with it on it.

Tawny Owl

Here we go again back to the local station, is this a printing error if I ask in the local station to check the pulse system again and it's there it has to be the person printing these licences that is omitting this "S".

Cass

Without having seen it, my understanding is if it's on PULSE and they request a print of the license PULSE recognises the details, the "S", etc. and prints it.

So either it was not entered correctly, it was entered but did not print it, or they are not giving it on the license but in the form of a letter form the Super.

The only way to know for sure is to contact the FO. Or anyone that can access PULSE for that matter.

tomtucker81

Cass wrote: »

Without having seen it, my understanding is if it's on PULSE and they request a print of the license PULSE recognises the details, the "S", etc. and prints it.

So either it was not entered correctly, it was entered but did not print it, or they are not giving it on the license but in the form of a letter form the Super.

The only way to know for sure is to contact the FO. Or anyone that can access PULSE for that matter.

Any garda can check to see if it's there on Pulse, but only the F.O. would make changes to the file, to put the s on or increase ammo etc. Or the super.

Tawny Owl

On The back of the letter it says.

"That the conditions as set out in section 4 of the Firearms Act,1925 as substituted by Section 32 (4)(2) of the Criminal Justice Act,2006 have been complied with."

tomtucker81

Tawny Owl wrote: »

On The back of the letter it says.

"That the conditions as set out in section 4 of the Firearms Act,1925 as substituted by Section 32 (4)(2) of the Criminal Justice Act,2006 have been complied with."

Nearly sure it says that on all letters. What I meant by my last post was that you could call to the station and ask to have it checked on pulse by the guard on duty there, but if it's not on your file then it would need to be the F.O. to make the necessary amendment.
judging by your report of your chat with him, I'd imagine it was to be given to you, but somehow he didnt click ok or press enter before printing!! Annoying but I'd say you're still good to get it.

Tawny Owl

Officer is off till Friday, so another trip then, and I was told last week by himself he had adjusted it on the Pulse system to show this, and that the licence would follow, I just have to wait to see what's going on. As we say in work "not a mistake it was a Technical error" covers a lot that.:D

Tawny Owl

Just received my third Licence in the post yesterday having fun here, can I just clear up this "S" one more time I am told it's on the botton left of the licence, all I am getting is a holagram in the top right hand corner of the licence, with a big "S" the other two licence's all I could see printed on them was the word security in small writing, this third one has a large shiny "S" is this top right hand area where it's placed now is it back to the station for round 4.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

bravestar

Tawny Owl wrote: »

Just received my third Licence in the post yesterday having fun here, can I just clear up this "S" one more time I am told it's on the botton left of the licence, all I am getting is a holagram in the top right hand corner of the licence, with a big "S" the other two licence's all I could see printed on them was the word security in small writing, this third one has a large shiny "S" is this top right hand area where it's placed now is it back to the station for round 4.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Check your PMs mate

Cul a cnoic

Hi,
Question. Do mods have a serial number as I have been granted the magic "S" subject to the serial number of the mod been tied to the rifle on the Pulse system?
Thanks.

Cass

Some have, most don't.

Check your mod. If it has any identifying number use that. Other than that you will have to tell them that it doesn't come with one. I've heard, however true or not, of a lad being told to have a serial engraved onto the mod. Now it smells of bullsh*t to me as it's not legit (as in the serial number will be made up), cannot be sold on to someone else (as the serial number will be tied to the rifle/person), and no one will except it as a trade or to buy if it has anything engraved on it. I wouldn't.

However they can impose conditions so chat with your FO and see what he can do. I'd be going the "I've no serial number" route if it doesn't have one and avoiding anything else.

Bogwoppit

I've just received my letter of approval for a .22.
I had applied for a moderator but I can't see any reference to a moderator on the letter.

Does this mean it hasn't been granted or do I have to wait until I get the license and look for the S?

Thanks

Bw

One shot on kill

Wait till you get the license. It should be on there if you got it.

Tawny Owl

Bogwoppit wrote: »

I've just received my letter of approval for a .22.
I had applied for a moderator but I can't see any reference to a moderator on the letter.

Does this mean it hasn't been granted or do I have to wait until I get the license and look for the S?

Thanks

Bw

Yeah I am getting good at this, wait till the Licence arrives it will have a small "S" in bold ink just under the F where it says Firearms number 1234567 if not and you applied ask the FO was it granted if so get onto to it as quickly as possible to get it sorted and The best of Luck;)

tomtucker81

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There will be no mention of a mod on your letter, or rather there might not be.
When the licence itself arrives, you are looking for the black s on its own at the bottom left corner.

see link for photo. Please excuse scraps of paper etc, it was just taken off my lap and had to cover name address etc, but it shows what you're looking for.

Bogwoppit

Thanks for the answers guys, much appreciated.

I'll pay my money and see what I get.

Fingers crossed.

Bw

Tawny Owl

tomtucker81 wrote: »

http://db.tt/4G8vs8Fw

There will be no mention of a mod on your letter, or rather there might not be.
When the licence itself arrives, you are looking for the black s on its own at the bottom left corner.

see link for photo. Please excuse scraps of paper etc, it was just taken off my lap and had to cover name address etc, but it shows what you're looking for.

Good Man tomtucker81 this is the photo that was needed now all can see just what it looks like ;);)

Cul a cnoic

Cass wrote: »

Some have, most don't.

Check your mod. If it has any identifying number use that. Other than that you will have to tell them that it doesn't come with one. I've heard, however true or not, of a lad being told to have a serial engraved onto the mod. Now it smells of bullsh*t to me as it's not legit (as in the serial number will be made up), cannot be sold on to someone else (as the serial number will be tied to the rifle/person), and no one will except it as a trade or to buy if it has anything engraved on it. I wouldn't.

However they can impose conditions so chat with your FO and see what he can do. I'd be going the "I've no serial number" route if it doesn't have one and avoiding anything else.

Thanks very much Cass, will talk to the FO.

Tawny Owl

Licence Number 4 arrived this Morning and YES you have all guessed right no "S" on the Licence, what in the name of God do I have to do to get this "S" on my Licence, has anyone a number or contact as to who I can contact that prints these as it is plain as muck on the Pluse system, that I was granted the Mod and I have had it checked three times on that system to confirm this.I would not even bother till I was renewing the Gun, but if I want to buy a Mod I will be asked to show my Licence minus its "S" :rolleyes::rolleyes::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Cass

Not sure if it's been suggested or not, but if you are getting no luck with your FO (as it's a simple task) contact the Firearms Policy Unit (FPU) and explain you have been granted the mod, and have had three licenses re-printed but they are still coming with no "S" on them, and could they help.

Contact them on 01-6661911 or 01-6661916

Tawny Owl

Just contacted the Firearms Policy Unit and was redirected to my FO to ask him to get onto IT Department. So I have done that hopefully next week I will have Licence number 5 with the "S".:rolleyes:

Cass

Fingers crossed.

Tawny Owl

Cass wrote: »

Fingers crossed.

And legs anything else that may help;) thanks for the help.

Tawny Owl

Just for the fun these are the Licence's I have received so far, just keeping them till the one with the big "S" arrives I will then hand them to the Local station for disposal.:D

One shot on kill

Lord god still no s that's a joke.

Bogwoppit

My license arrived yesterday, no S.

I rang the FO (the first time I've managed to get in direct contact in 3 years) and was told that the S should have been on there and a reprint would be sent, also got the ammo allowance increased from 100 up to 750.

I just hope it doesn't take as many goes as Tawny Owl! By the way, it looks like we have the same FO.

Bw

Tawny Owl

Wonder what the problem is there

Mauser 308

.22 licence arrived last week,no "S"on licence, waiting to hear back from the FO to see why?.
Seems like a common issue????:mad:

Tawny Owl

Well all it seems to be taken a little longer for the postman to arrive, Just keeping everyone up to date, no letters yet with the Licence,

Bogwoppit

Same for me, another friend is also waiting longer than normal since paying the fee.

I was talking to the FO there and apparently they have been moving to a new computer system and they have a new super moved in from somewhere else hence the backlog and all the mistakes.

Bw

session savage

this happened me when I put in a .22 sub. the new license came back without the s. I rang my fo and asked him why the s was gone and he just changed it over the phone. I had the new license with an s a few days later.
just ring your fo and ask. good luck.

Bogwoppit

My new license arrived today, I have an S!!

Only allowed 100 rounds though, so back we go again.

Bw

Tawny Owl

session savage wrote: »

this happened me when I put in a .22 sub. the new license came back without the s. I rang my fo and asked him why the s was gone and he just changed it over the phone. I had the new license with an s a few days later.
just ring your fo and ask. good luck.

As you can see from my posts it's not as easy as this, may depend on the area your in and the FO I am still waiting after 2 weeks where before I was getting 1 a week but as I said with no "S".

Cheers.

Mauser 308

Mauser 308 wrote: »

.22 licence arrived last week,no "S"on licence, waiting to hear back from the FO to see why?.
Seems like a common issue????:mad:

Got talking to my FO there yesterday. He appolagised and said he would re issue. Hope to have over the next few days, fingers crossed.

Mauser 308

Mauser 308 wrote: »

Got talking to my FO there yesterday. He appolagised and said he would re issue. Hope to have over the next few days, fingers crossed.

Licence arrived this evening with the magic S.

Tawny Owl

Hi All Licence number 5 arrived yesterday and yes you guessed no S in bottom left hand corner, starting to think there is something going on here.

223vmax

I queried this with my FO. I have a mod on the .223. They checked it on pulse and yes its on that system but no S on the license. I asked for another to be sent out with the S on it but was met with a "Whats the point - any Guard querying you will check it on Pulse and as long as its on there no problem!" Feeling frustrated isn't the word!

jagged

Tawny Owl wrote: »

Hi All Licence number 5 arrived yesterday and yes you guessed no S in bottom left hand corner, starting to think there is something going on here.

Jesus that's a serious messing around!!!:eek: