The Pat Kenny Show

For Petes Sake

Lads I don't understand what you expect Pat to do?

Trump consistently makes headlines with his words and radical declarations. They are talking points.

He didn't have much to say about Biden because Biden was asleep most of time and there was f*ck all to talk about.

Whether you like it or not, Trump is making attention for himself on a daily basis. People need to stop pretending this isn't the case and then hammering media outlets for talking about it.

Cole

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123234613#Comment_123234613

It's not only Pat to be fair. I'm sure many people are thinking it, but not saying it out load, yet

That just confirms that it's a shaky theory about Trump, but the whole point is that Pat - as a reputable, well informed and vastly experienced broadcaster - shouldn't really be dabbling in such speculation.

What other reason does he have to be pivoting towards russia, and away from Canada, Mexico and Europe ? All of this rubbish could be caused by some bad debts to russian banks or a compromising video they have of him.

Possibly other reasons. Could be bad debts or a dodgy video…could be other reasons. Hence, bring on informed people to analyse it for us listeners.

mykrodot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123234755#Comment_123234755

Pat had no need to interview Alastair Campbell today. There was no overnight "news", no big drama. It was a chat between them, comparing notes and past experiences/anecdotes about Trump. This interview could have been done anytime but not in a week where Pat discussed Trump every single day so far. It's like he is digging, looking for journalists, reporters, politicians who agree with him ( that's most people to be fair). Like someone else has said he is now veering into "conspiracy" theories with his Russian spy ideas and Trump being indebted to Putin over property deals?

If any of us came up with this I could understand but I am surprised at Pat this week and where is head is . Trump certainly spends a lot of time there!

For Petes Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123235135#Comment_123235135

There was no overnight news? No drama?

There was no joint address to Congress? Are you actually saying we all just made that up and there's nothing to see here?

mykrodot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123235260#Comment_123235260

ok sorry I obviously got that one wrong. When I was listening to PK this morning I hadn't heard the news so I didn't know about the joint address to congress, or anything else. Other mornings I had seen news on my phone, heard it on Newstalk, not today. Somedays now I just want to wake up to no news so I only put PK on at 9am.

No I am not saying you all just made anything up so you can relax on that one. PK is making a point himself of discussing Trump every single day and rather than make us want to listen up, its having the opposite effect.

For Petes Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123235431#Comment_123235431

So you're saying Pat needs to stop discussing Trump without any reason whatsoever.

Trump makes the news, folks. I know that's difficult to understand but when there is news there is discussion and that has been Trump almost daily since he was elected.

It's honestly boring reading the same things across multiple pages about Pat being 'obsessed' or whatever. If Trump wasn't such an egomaniac there'd be no need to have constant discussions about him.

But no, it's all Pat's fault.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123235484#Comment_123235484

This.

You got a world leader saying batsh1t crazy, actually unhinged stuff like he's going to take over Canada and Greenland and the Panama Canal, rename the Gulf of Mexico cos it's got Mexico in it and we're just going to pretend this is not newsworthy? Or even normal?!

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123235431#Comment_123235431

You declared "over and out" ruling out certain discussion on this thread earlier.

Even so PK's editorial decisions are seemingly still weighing heavily on you.

The show has a production team and together with them and his producer Pat decides on the content.

If it's bothering you that much maybe best to move the dial and take time out.

For myself I want to hear varied opinions and takes on the current mess we are in and Newstalk is one of my sources.

At least they can publish freely without fear of repercussions unlike some of the US media.

hotmail.com

There's broad agreement that Pat makes the same points he's been making for 10 years but clearly some people seem to enjoy this type of radio, probably because of the eminent position Pat holds in Irish radio.

At least Matt Cooper makes an attempt to widen the discussion.

drunkmonkey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123235561#Comment_123235561

there’s not varied opinions on his show when it comes to republicans , just yes men, I never thought I’d say it but Claire Byrne seems to have different views on, she tries to catch them out but usually fails. Pat needs to go, he’s too far gone to ever recover and accept reality at this stage.

mykrodot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123235484#Comment_123235484

No, I don't think he needs to stop discussing Trump but maybe just not every single day.

mykrodot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123235561#Comment_123235561

I won't be changing the dial as there is nothing else that comes close to PK . I have always been a huge fan of his. He will be hugely missed whenever he retires,he is sharp and intelligent. The thing with his discussions on Trump is that Pat is letting his personal views come into play too much and sounds irked and angry at times. This is not professional.

On that note I will definitely declare myself out and try to stick to it this time. Have a nice evening !

For Petes Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123236095#Comment_123236095

Well Trump is now threatening to blow Gaza to oblivion.

Should Pat ignore this in the morning?

Are you getting it yet? Pat will stop talking about Trump when he stops making news for himself.

2smiggy

if the news stops reporting on him, it normalises the maniac. He is trying to do it already in America by hand picking his own press for the white house briefings. The big news networks too are getting rid of who they see as 'anti trump'.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stunned-msnbc-host-katie-phang-053336883.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACPDJ5jwnCbwbGDhqm3mQKGBwm-Tsg0MLt1YPlTl1eZJ99BdISA7tdGi3Plr5tdK_F7ujHIQMTy0uKOjY8brGHopIZik54hfS9oluv-beeslEOIkdLDRed0MY-Xrxlym-ct9zTw7WCiF2mMMLPup8JVx1SdV45Hw7_n3-UkuXePt

they want a press consisting of nodding dog idiots, but luckily we don't have that. On a positive note, Murdoch doesn't seem to be giving him a free ride, and the supreme court are not voting everything his way. I think more and more republicans are waking up to what trump is. trump said he loved the poorly educated, but hopefully the many educated republicans begin to stand up to him.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123236324#Comment_123236324

Odd behaviour from a man who "wants peace".

Cole

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123236324#Comment_123236324

I'm consuming all kinds of news on Trump (TV, radio, papers), so I don't want Pat to stop talking about him…but it's the way he does that's the issue for me. Even if I mostly agree with his take on Trump, it's disappointing (and gets really, really tedious) when a great broadcaster like Pat just ends up sounding unprofessional and a bit childish at times with the way he approaches the Trump stuff.

zell12

Mícheál should speak as gaeilge to Trump, as Mammy Trump spoke gàidhlig

😃

Cole

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123236835#Comment_123236835

Sure didn't Pat also suggest that Mícheál could use the interpreters and reply to journalists' questions in Irish…can't quite figure out if he was joking or not.

BPKS

On the issue of Pat and his infatuation with discussing all things Trump.

I just wish that Pat, and the Irish media in general, exacted the same time and energy into investigating and exposing the various messes and general fcuk ups we have in this country. In Ireland, where we live.

The main issues that effect the Irish public according to the opinion polls before the election were immigration, housing, health and inflation/cost of living.

Now did we ever see a deep dive investigation on Newstalk, RTE or the various papers on any of the above issues. A real haranguing and critical analysis of those in charge (e.g. O Gorman, McEntee, Donnelly, O Brien) - similar to the hysterical levels of haranguing and critical analysis we see and hear everyday on Trump/American policy.

For example, O Gorman was never on a radio show for the last few years when hard questions needed to be asked and answered. Since he is now the only Green TD he's on every 2nd day. Soon enough he will be asked to do a fluff piece about his favourite books or film - no mention of his failed immigration policy from Pat or Matt or whoever has him on.

My own view is that Irish journalists are essentially afraid to sh1t on their own doorstep. I'm not sure is it the fear of not getting leaks from the political parties they should be investigating, fear of being branded far right and cancelled, fear of not getting a handy PR job for a politician, political party or government department down the road. Or maybe they are just sh1t at their jobs.

Cole

"CNN nowhere as biased as Fox News" - David Robert Grimes.

Yeah right. They're both a joke.

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123237068#Comment_123237068

Don’t think CNN ever had to argue in court that no reasonable viewer would take the views of one of their flagship shows seriously.

Cole

Right folks. Regardless of whether you think Pat should have daily coverage of Trump or not, I think he's clearly losing the plot now. It's getting almost comical.

He's trying to pivot almost every topic back to Trump. He just had the author Colum McCann to discuss his new book. He started on Trump (nothing to do with his book) and spent at least half of the interview on Trump…a few minutes on the book and then brought it right back to Trump!

I genuinely think he's at the stage where he needs to do a separate show or podcast just focusing on Trump.

mykrodot

This morning I went to the gym at 9.30, while driving there Pat Kenny was on discussing Trump.

When I came out of the gym I went for a coffee and chat with a friend, back into the car at 11.30am. Pat was still discussing Trump!

His show should be renamed "Trump Times".

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123237014#Comment_123237014

Moncrieff must have heard you, back to back dereliction and cost of living crisis.

I think you'll find a lot of politicians and others magically make themselves unavailable for interview if they smell a set up.

The Davestator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123237014#Comment_123237014

I agree with all this…but Pat is talking to a random other person about Trump and his policies. It's not trying to solve anything or get answers to anything that affects us so it's easier to get people to nod along and agree with him.

BPKS

Ivan is standing in today - yahoo

Cole

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123249738#Comment_123249738

Straight talking/telling it like it is…blah, blah, blah

Yawn

zell12

go for it!

horse7

Jesus not Ivan.

steinbock123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123249738#Comment_123249738

. . . and for the next two weeks - Yippee !

Ivan was all in favour of Trump before he was elected the first time, I wonder what his take on him is nowadays.?