Arcade and Retro General Chat in Karkariko Village Tavern: Live Ocarina Music

Doge

I purchased Dosbox Turbo on the Play store today for 3 quid, with the hope of running some DOS games like the original Duke3D, as the android version doesn't even have music or the 4th Episode.

Unfortunately I'm getting less than 5fps in Duke 3D on my Moto G after tweaking a lot of settings, and following their performance guide.

Sent an email to the developer asking him if its a lost cause or just unoptimized for the Moto G.

I think I may have underestimated the power required to run x86 DOS games on the ARMv7 platform.

It's a shame as I can run PSX games with maxed out FPS using Epsxe for android.

Doge

On the upside, Ganja Farmer runs fine!

Retr0gamer

Epsxe is a god awful emulator though that runs everything really inaccurately. Does box on the other hand is really good which is why it requires so much resources to run. I doubt a mobile will be capable of running games on it.

o1s1n

Ganja Farmer! What a game. Shame he never released Jesus Christ Super Commando.

Doge

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Epsxe is a god awful emulator though that runs everything really inaccurately. Does box on the other hand is really good which is why it requires so much resources to run. I doubt a mobile will be capable of running games on it.

So far it has run the few games I tried really well without anything noticeably wrong.

I definitely wouldn't call it "god awful!" :P

Guess it depends on what games you run on it.

Myrddin

Doge wrote: »

So far it has run the few games I tried really well without anything noticeably wrong.

I definitely wouldn't call it "god awful!" :P

Guess it depends on what games you run on it.

Retr0 is speaking from an accuracy point of view, & indeed ePsxe is pretty inaccurate. There's all sorts of hacks & plugins needed to get it going. While you're right in that it can present games quite often very playable to the user, the accuracy of emulating the PS1 console inner workings has long been lost at that point, & what you get instead, is more an interpretation of the game, rather than the game itself.

Retr0gamer

Well I'd call it god awful but I'm a stickler for emulation. All games on espsxe look very different from on the host hardware and there's lots of timing and audio issues. Sure most of the big games are playable but more obscure stuff requires specific plug ins and fudges just to get running acceptably.

Doge

Ah yes I see what you mean now, and i did get the impression it was hacked together alright, you can't even change controller settings in game, in fact there is very little you can do when its running.

I'm still impressed it can run quickly on a cheap android phone despite it being inaccurate internally.

Have any of you tried FPse for android?

I wonder how it compares.

o1s1n

o1s1n wrote: »

Ganja Farmer! What a game. Shame he never released Jesus Christ Super Commando.

With a bit of grade A stalking I found out who the creator of Ganja Farmer/Evil X is and his linkedin profile.

www.linkedin.com/in/drjasonpitt

Anyone want to add Dr. Pitt and ask him why he never released Jesus Christ Super Commando and Ganja Farmer 2 10 years ago? :pac:

Retr0gamer

Espsxe is probably the best PS1 emulation. Really once you get into the territory of the Playstation or Saturn with custom video hardware then emulation accuracy is just awful.

Doge

o1s1n wrote: »

With a bit of grade A stalking I found out who the creator of Ganja Farmer/Evil X is and his linkedin profile.

www.linkedin.com/in/drjasonpitt

Anyone want to add Dr. Pitt and ask him why he never released Jesus Christ Super Commando and Ganja Farmer 2 10 years ago? :pac:

He was working on Ganja Farmer 2 about a decade ago and it seems to have fell by the wayside also:

http://www.evilx.com/load.html

o1s1n

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Espsxe is probably the best PS1 emulation. Really once you get into the territory of the Playstation or Saturn with custom video hardware then emulation accuracy is just awful.

But all the pretty filters and high resolutions!

...

:pac:

Doge

o1s1n wrote: »

But all the pretty filters and high resolutions!

...

:pac:

I tend to have them disabled as they look so wrong but the FXAA plugin on android seems to offer subtle enhancements that doesn't feck things up as much as the windows version!

Doge

I have to say also that Android is becoming a more attractive platform for emulation,
as it requires far less configuration. God damn i just remember all the plugins you had to download for the desktop version of epsxe, in android all you need is to add the bios and away you go!

That gamesome frontend and Nostalgia on the Ouya work beautifully also, no more having to open the emulator and use the GUI to open the game.

krudler

Doge wrote: »

I have to say also that Android is becoming a more attractive platform for emulation,
as it requires far less configuration. God damn i just remember all the plugins you had to download for the desktop version of epsxe, in android all you need is to add the bios and away you go!

That gamesome frontend and Nostalgia on the Ouya work beautifully also, no more having to open the emulator and use the GUI to open the game.

I have a bunch of emulators on my tablet and phone, as long as the game plays without video or audio issues and in the right aspect ratio then that's fine by me. retroarch does the all in one emulator thing as well it can be a bit fiddly though, but it does play a lot of mame roms the mame4droid ones don't so that's pretty handy. I have a ps3 pad I brought over here with me and use that via bluetooth, aint perfect but it does the job nicely. I'd love a proper snes pad though.

Doge

krudler wrote: »

I have a bunch of emulators on my tablet and phone, as long as the game plays without video or audio issues and in the right aspect ratio then that's fine by me. retroarch does the all in one emulator thing as well it can be a bit fiddly though, but it does play a lot of mame roms the mame4droid ones don't so that's pretty handy. I have a ps3 pad I brought over here with me and use that via bluetooth, aint perfect but it does the job nicely. I'd love a proper snes pad though.

I'm using the ps3 controller also.

A lot of people on here complain about the dpad, but I'm so comfortable with it at this stage I find it great.

When you compare it to the abomination that is the Xbox 360 dpad, it suddenly seems amazing!

Retro games are just unplayable with the 360 dpad IMO, very hard to press left and right perfectly without hitting diagonal. Its definitely one of the worst dpads of all time.

I ordered this smart clip and I'll do a video when or arrives:

http://www.dx.com/p/smart-clip-adjustable-plastic-holder-for-cellphones-ps3-controller-black-299607

o1s1n

That 360 D pad is crap for everything. You need to use it in dark souls to cycle through your inventory - has been the death of me many times due to the lack of precision.

Doge

krudler wrote: »

retroarch does the all in one emulator thing as well it can be a bit fiddly though, but it does play a lot of mame roms the mame4droid ones don't so that's pretty handy.

Haven't actually tried Retroarch yet but surprised you've found much roms not working for mame4droid, is there many?

I presume you're using Mame4droid which uses MAME Version 0.139u and not Mame4all which uses MAME version 0.37b5?

Also are you using the 0.139u Rom Set as opposed to just downloading roms from sites? That Rom set will hugely maximize compatibility.


One big limitation of Android i discovered last night is that it has very poor support for shaders even on high end devices.

So for proper CRT Emulation we'll have to stick with PC's for now.

Steve X2

Are we allowed to sell emulation devices in the marketplace? I'm talking the device, not roms of course
I'm doing a clean out and have an emulation handheld I want rid of.

megaten

I got a GPD-G5A for handheld emulation recently and I have to say Retroarch is the biggest pain the whole. It never seems to remember my platform specific settings. Its a shame because some of the better portable emulators like picodrive and pcsx rearmed don't seem to have standalone versions on android.

MrVestek

Doge wrote: »

Haven't actually tried Retroarch yet but surprised you've found much roms not working for mame4droid, is there many?

I presume you're using Mame4droid which uses MAME Version 0.139u and not Mame4all which uses MAME version 0.37b5?

Also are you using the 0.139u Rom Set as opposed to just downloading roms from sites? That Rom set will hugely maximize compatibility.


One big limitation of Android i discovered last night is that it has very poor support for shaders even on high end devices.

So for proper CRT Emulation we'll have to stick with PC's for now.

Ok I'm confused. Clearly someone changed their name the week I was away... is that you Waveform?

Doge

MrVestek wrote: »

Ok I'm confused. Clearly someone changed their name the week I was away... is that you Waveform?

Yes. Although you have forgotten even that I'm waveform on boards so many times now that you'll forget who I currently am in a week!

Steve X2

Pretty nice!

https://www.behance.net/gallery/18705893/Low-Poly-Isometric-Arcade-Cabinets

o1s1n

Urge to buy STATUS 25, rising...

They're really excellent.

Reminded me of some mini arcade books listed over on AO recently by Rancor. Just after pming him now for a set. $40 delivered.

http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=28301

CiDeRmAn

Steve SI wrote: »

Are we allowed to sell emulation devices in the marketplace? I'm talking the device, not roms of course
I'm doing a clean out and have an emulation handheld I want rid of.

No, I don't think so.
The remit the A&R Marketplace operates under is clear in terms of the types of items allowed to be sold.
If it gets fuzzy about the edges and we see items from other gaming fields enter we could see the Marketplace shut.
But I'm happy to accept Myrddin's opinion on this as the rule.

Steve X2

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

No, I don't think so.
The remit the A&R Marketplace operates under is clear in terms of the types of items allowed to be sold.
If it gets fuzzy about the edges and we see items from other gaming fields enter we could see the Marketplace shut.
But I'm happy to accept Myrddin's opinion on this as the rule.

Ah ok.
I've already stuck it up. You can just delete or archive the ad if you like.

MrVestek

Doge wrote: »

Yes. Although you have forgotten even that I'm waveform on boards so many times now that you'll forget who I currently am in a week!

Shut up Steve_SI!

krudler

Doge wrote: »

Haven't actually tried Retroarch yet but surprised you've found much roms not working for mame4droid, is there many?

I presume you're using Mame4droid which uses MAME Version 0.139u and not Mame4all which uses MAME version 0.37b5?

Also are you using the 0.139u Rom Set as opposed to just downloading roms from sites? That Rom set will hugely maximize compatibility.


One big limitation of Android i discovered last night is that it has very poor support for shaders even on high end devices.

So for proper CRT Emulation we'll have to stick with PC's for now.

I have both mame4droid and mame4all. I usually just get the roms off sites instead of the full sets, most of them work fine on the 0.139u mame but it can be hit and miss. do I need some other files or just the rom types themselves?

Nerdkiller1991

BWAAAAH!

Jack burton

Having some big problems with parcel motel,

I ordered a phone from amazon uk, this day last week. It arrived in parcel motel friday the 1st of Augest and now sign of it since. I have my amazon shipping document, including the full address and my PM id and I have the royal mail tracked service showing it was sent to, and signed for, by parcel motel

I emailed them today about it and they are "looking for it in the warehouse". The guy said it might have come in with no PM id, which i mailed back that it was on the shipping document, havnt heard back from then since

Anyone have a suggestion for the next step? I was going to just post the whole thing up on their facebook page since that might get some more attention because I'm really pissed off over this. Says to wait at least 8 hours before it gets checked in and its been 4 working days now

I could always ring Joe Duffy :P