Military coup underway in Egypt

Gringo180 · 03-07-2013 10:29pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

50 tanks have been deployed to the border with Israel, according to RT.

Nothing on there website about this? Have you got a link for this story?

Gringo180 · 03-07-2013 10:31pm

MrPoker wrote: »

They get a democratically elected leader after many years of dictatorship and oust their new democratically elected leader within a year or so. Basket case of a country!!

Economically the country has gone down hill since democracy was installed in the country and the murder rate has increased so looks like the people has had enough already.

Israeli Superiority · 03-07-2013 10:32pm

MrPoker wrote: »

They get a democratically elected leader after many years of dictatorship and oust their new democratically elected leader within a year or so. Basket case of a country!!

That democratically-elected leader turned out to be a dictator, too. Don't blame them.

03-07-2013 10:34pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Nothing on there website about this? Have you got a link for this story?

http://rt.com/news/egypt-milllions-protest-morsi-458/

The 21:19 update.

Gringo180 · 03-07-2013 10:38pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

http://rt.com/news/egypt-milllions-protest-morsi-458/

The 21:19 update.

Interesting stuff.

take everything · 03-07-2013 10:40pm

mikom wrote: »

They'll probably be in denile for a week or two, then things will go back to normal.

This guy Morsi was one bad Giza.
Sphinx look pretty crazy there now though.

MrPoker · 03-07-2013 10:42pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Economically the country has gone down hill since democracy was installed in the country and the murder rate has increased so looks like the people has had enough already.

Excuse my ignorance on this subject as i am only reading up on it now and find it quite interesting. To me it looks like after months of widespread protests in 2012 it was going to take some time to settle down the country and get the economy back up and running again. A year is hardly enough time to do that and it should be a gradual rebuilding process. Uprooting the new democratic process in such a short time sets a bad precedent for the future in my opinion.

NuckingFacker · 03-07-2013 10:47pm

take everything wrote: »

This guy Morsi was one bad Giza.
Sphinx look pretty crazy there now though.

His regime was only ever a big pyramid scheme, he'll just have to walk like an egyptian ex-leader and cry to his mummy. The coup was fairly predictable tbh, was expecting it for a few days now. Hopefully Egypt will emerge with a pharoh system of governance.

Jonny7 · 03-07-2013 10:49pm

MrPoker wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance on this subject as i am only reading up on it now and find it quite interesting. To me it looks like after months of widespread protests in 2012 it was going to take some time to settle down the country and get the economy back up and running again. A year is hardly enough time to do that and it should be a gradual rebuilding process. Uprooting the new democratic process in such a short time sets a bad precedent for the future in my opinion.

Let's say the people took a very quick and strong dislike to Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood, even though they won the election.

Effectively what's happened is a military coup, but one which appears to have the backing of the majority of people.

take everything · 03-07-2013 10:50pm

NuckingFacker wrote: »

His regime was only ever a big pyramid scheme, he'll just have to walk like an egyptian ex-leader and cry to his mummy. The coup was fairly predictable tbh, was expecting it for a few days now. Hopefully Egypt will emerge with a pharoh system of governance.

I know one thing.
He'll need a cairopractor after they finish with him.

wil · 03-07-2013 10:51pm

so now we have the Arab Summer

partyatmygaff · 03-07-2013 10:52pm

And the military's suspended the constitution and removed him from office.

A great win for the people and the country as a whole. It really shows how much power ordinary people can have if they show a bit of solidarity and determination.

humanji · 03-07-2013 10:59pm

Threads merged.

fergiesfolly · 03-07-2013 11:00pm

They're new leader might ask the protestors to refrain from raping their female compatriots during the next coup/popular protest.

apollo8 · 03-07-2013 11:04pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

And the military's suspended the constitution and removed him from office.

A great win for the people and the country as a whole. It really shows how much power ordinary people can have if they show a bit of solidarity and determination.

Lets not make hero's of the military they have illegally overthrown a democraticaly elected president,that is not nescessarily a good thing.
the test of them will be will they hold free and fair elections soon

mike65 · 03-07-2013 11:13pm

The Med is basically ungovernable, and of the countries that have recently had military governments only Turkey seems to be able to make a decent fist of parliamentary democracy. Its also the only one which has managed to keep its secular values intact.

Conmaicne Mara · 03-07-2013 11:16pm

mike65 wrote: »

The Med is basically ungovernable, and of the countries that have recently had military governments only Turkey seems to be able to make a decent fist of parliamentary democracy. Its also the only one which has managed to keep its secular values intact.

Who's going to tell the French?

Dr Drastico · 03-07-2013 11:27pm

mike65 wrote: »

The Med is basically ungovernable, and of the countries that have recently had military governments only Turkey seems to be able to make a decent fist of parliamentary democracy. Its also the only one which has managed to keep its secular values intact.

The 'Med' has had a history of self-governance that goes back hundreds of years. The last great intrusion by the 'Med' on the 'West' was the Ottoman empire. In the era of the empires.

It's all a bit old now. No intervention needed. The leftist Statists have a terrible desire to get involved in things that they have no need to get involved in. Let the people of Egypt decide their own destiny. If they decide they don't want secularism then so be it.

Nothing worse than liberalism masquerading itself as internationalist.

mikom · 03-07-2013 11:34pm

Dr Drastico wrote: »

The 'Med' has had a history of self-governance that goes back hundreds of years. The last great intrusion by the 'Med' on the 'West' was the Ottoman empire. In the era of the empires.

It's all a bit old now. No intervention needed. The leftist Statists have a terrible desire to get involved in things that they have no need to get involved in. Let the people of Egypt decide their own destiny. If they decide they don't want secularism then so be it.

Nothing worse than liberalism masquerading itself as internationalist.

I smell a rereg.

Gatling · 03-07-2013 11:36pm

Have to say the Egyptian's have balls sacking 2 presidents and government's in 12 months ,
The most we get is a union march and some chap starving himself over property tax ,

03-07-2013 11:38pm

NBC News correspondent based in Egypt -

Ayman Mohyeldin @AymanM
Just had a group of men come to our office overlooking #Tahrir looking for Al Jazeera journalists @nbcnews @ajarabic @ajenglish @sherinet

NuckingFacker · 03-07-2013 11:43pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

And the military's suspended the constitution and removed him from office.

A great win for the people and the country as a hole. It really shows how much power ordinary people can have if they show a bit of solidarity and determination.

fyp. a weeny bit..

03-07-2013 11:43pm

5 detained at Al Jazeera offices, according to Reuters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/03/us-egypt-protests-jazeera-idUSBRE9621CW20130703

General General · 04-07-2013 12:21am

Deleted User wrote: »

5 detained at Al Jazeera offices, according to Reuters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/03/us-egypt-protests-jazeera-idUSBRE9621CW20130703

Do they have access to a good source of caffè latte at least?

04-07-2013 1:05am

Mod

Dr Drastico

Re reg. Banned.

mikom wrote: »

I smell a rereg.

Calling people out as a re reg will get you banned. Report and ignore please.

Seaneh · 04-07-2013 2:40am

mike65 wrote: »

The Med is basically ungovernable, and of the countries that have recently had military governments only Turkey seems to be able to make a decent fist of parliamentary democracy. Its also the only one which has managed to keep its secular values intact.

Yeah, because Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is the bastion is secular government, not trying to impose islamist rule through the back door at all, at all...

apollo8 · 04-07-2013 2:45am

mikom wrote: »

I smell a rereg.

Feel proud of yourself do you?

Dostoevsky · 04-07-2013 12:49pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Economically the country has gone down hill since democracy was installed in the country and the murder rate has increased so looks like the people has had enough already.

True, as is the case in most of Europe. However:
Official Unemployment rate in Egypt (1st Quarter 2013): 13.2% (Source)
Official unemployment rate in Ireland (June 2013): 13.7% (Source)

Even though Morsi was democratically elected, the turning point was Morsi's attempt in November 2012 to essentially abolish democracy and turn his rule into a dictatorship. This united disparate and discrete sections of society, even if support for Morsi still remains very strong. Very little seems to be said about his supporters in all this.

It is interesting, however, to see the ambivalence of certain western powers to a coup against a democratically-elected leader when that leader is aligned with political Islamism.

Dostoevsky · 04-07-2013 1:09pm

mike65 wrote: »

The Med is basically ungovernable

Perhaps if they got the right government they'd be OK? I'd rather be ungovernable with the wrong government/policies, as is the case in Egypt under Morsi, than governable with the wrong government/policies, as is the case of another country....

Dostoevsky · 04-07-2013 1:14pm

British fellow on RTÉ News at One with Seán O'Rourke saying that the army basically "played a numbers game" by doing a head count from helicopters and saw the largest demonstrations in living memory and decided they had to make a move and the opposition had the biggest numbers.

Clearly this is untrue as mass protests never work ....

Military coup underway in Egypt

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