Landmarks Named After a Business

lintdrummer

This really annoys me. How ridiculous does "The Bord Gais Energy Theatre" sound? It's the Grand Canal Theatre! The "Aviva Stadium" is Lansdowne Rd.

What got me thinking about this today is the news that 3 are taking over o2 Ireland and all o2 branding is to disappear. I assume that they're going to call the point depot "The 3 Arena" or something now as a result. It just really grinds my gears, we shouldn't allow businesses to rebrand landmark buildings; whether new, old or refurbished.

What think you AH? Are there any more examples of capitalism marking it's territory in Ireland?

lkionm

Off to the communism forum with you

Chucken

But all those places are in Dublin, doesn't really bother me here in the sticks.

mikemac1

Aviva spent 40 million on the naming rights and shortly afterwards made 950 Irish staff redundant.

The two mightn't have been connected but I'm sure the staff were wondering why they were losing their job when the company could piss away tens of millions like that

veryangryman

Chucken wrote: »

But all those places are in Dublin, doesn't really bother me here in the sticks.

Kingspan have some stadia renamed in monaghan

The Backwards Man

The day I start worrying about the names people want to give inanimate objects that don't care what they are called is the day that I will absolutely nothing else to worry about.

Celly Smunt

I think it can work well.I lived near a sportsworld drive in Canada,Sportsworld in turn had to maintain that street saving the local councils millions.

NoQuarter

If they even think about altering my O2 contract they can get fukked

hardCopy

I blame Clery's and their bloody clock.

CrabRevolution

veryangryman wrote: »

Kingspan have some stadia renamed in monaghan

That was in Cavan with Breffni Park, and Cavan folk would do anything for money so don't really count.

Chucken

Wasn't the o2 The Point? People got used to calling it a different name.

Zaph

United Park, home of Drogheda United, now goes by the catchy name of Hunky Dorys Park. In comparison to that, nothing else really sounds that bad.

Smithy90

how about the Petronas towers in Kuala Lumpar? or Sears tower in Chichago?

Larianne

Chucken wrote: »

Wasn't the o2 The Point? People got used to calling it a different name.

I still call it The Point.

hardCopy

CrabRevolution wrote: »

That was in Cavan with Breffni Park, and Cavan folk would do anything for money so don't really count.

Don't forget Elverys McHale Park in Castlebar as well.

lintdrummer

There are many landmark buildings worldwide that I can't imagine being called anything else. Carnagy Hall, Wembley, Croke Park. Culturally these are all massively iconic and I'd go so far as to say it'd be almost unthinkable that any of them would be called after a company.
To be honest I think it's a disgusting practice, have we lost so much respect for our country that it's ok to allow businesses who don't give a toss about the importance of these buildings to use them as advertising and implant their name in the public consciousness.

There's a Frank Sinatra Drive in downtown Las Vegas, and any number of things named after Elvis in Memphis. I don't blame companies for naming stadia etc after themselves, if you invest all that money you should at least get a little advertising out of it.

lintdrummer

Candie wrote: »

There's a Frank Sinatra Drive in downtown Las Vegas, and any number of things named after Elvis in Memphis. I don't blame companies for naming stadia etc after themselves, if you invest all that money you should at least get a little advertising out of it.

You see that's where I disagree, using a building as advertising is wrong, unless of course it's your HQ or something. Naming buildings after people is entirely different for the most part, the people you mentioned were of massive cultural significance and often there is some correlation between the purpose of the building and what that person was famous for.

Iwasfrozen

lintdrummer wrote: »

There are many landmark buildings worldwide that I can't imagine being called anything else. Carnagy Hall, Wembley, Croke Park. Culturally these are all massively iconic and I'd go so far as to say it'd be almost unthinkable that any of them would be called after a company.
To be honest I think it's a disgusting practice, have we lost so much respect for our country that it's ok to allow businesses who don't give a toss about the importance of these buildings to use them as advertising and implant their name in the public consciousness.

It's a bit of harmless advertising and saves the organisation money. Stop making mountains out of molehills.

Mint Sauce

Larianne wrote: »

I still call it The Point.

Same here, still takes me a moment to get what people are talking about when they say the O2.

Still call Lansdowne Rd, Lansdowne Rd as well.

lintdrummer

lintdrummer wrote: »

You see that's where I disagree, using a building as advertising is wrong, unless of course it's your HQ or something. Naming buildings after people is entirely different for the most part, the people you mentioned were of massive cultural significance and often there is some correlation between the purpose of the building and what that person was famous for.

There's no impetus for businesses to invest in public facilities or buildings if they get no recognition for it, and no one would know Aviva had anything to do with the building of that stadium if their name wasn't on it. In the final analysis the benefit outweighs the cost, imo.

Dostoevsky

lintdrummer wrote: »

This really annoys me. How ridiculous does "The Bord Gais Energy Theatre" sound? It's the Grand Canal Theatre! The "Aviva Stadium" is Landsowne Rd.

Grand Canal Company, the name of the (capitalist) corporation which built and named the Grand Canal.
Lansdowne Road was named after one of the biggest capitalists and colonialists of the 18th century, William Petty, Lord Lansdowne and 2nd Earl of Shelburne.

And so on.

lintdrummer

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Grand Canal Company, the name of the (capitalist) corporation which built and named the Grand Canal.
Lansdowne Road was named after one of the biggest capitalists and colonialists of the 18th century, William Petty, Lord Lansdowne and 2nd Earl of Shelburne.

And so on.

Come on, this is your argument? The Grand Canal, two perfectly normal words that nobody associates with business whatsoever, and Lansdowne Road, a road, named after a man who had a title named after a place.

Apples and Oranges. Aviva means nothing other than an insurance company.

April O Neill

lintdrummer wrote: »

This really annoys me. How ridiculous does "The Bord Gais Energy Theatre" sound? It's the Grand Canal Theatre! The "Aviva Stadium" is Landsowne Rd.

It's ok, if it sounds nice, like the Aviva.

But the Bord Gais Energy Theatre - . I thought it was a joke the first time I heard it.

My name is URL

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

It's a bit of harmless advertising and saves the organisation money. Stop making mountains out of molehills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0BMaUMmGw

Weevil

Coming soon:

The VHI/Christchurch Cathedral
The Tesco National Gallery of Ireland
Etc.

veryangryman

CrabRevolution wrote: »

That was in Cavan with Breffni Park, and Cavan folk would do anything for money so don't really count.

Appreciate the joke but I also meant monaghan fcs ground

Stupid Irish. Get into your local team.

Iwasfrozen

My name is URL wrote: »

Simpson's video

What point are you trying to make?

My name is URL

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

What point are you trying to make?

None in particular.. it was a joke, something people enjoy when they don't have massive sticks up their holes.

Iwasfrozen

My name is URL wrote: »

None in particular.. it was a joke, something people enjoy when they don't have massive sticks up their holes.

Ah, then I tip the hat to you, didn't realise it was a joke.

MJ23

The Healy Rae Theatre, or the Gobsh!t Theatre.

antodeco

3 should rename it The V3NU3

MadsL

Chucken wrote: »

But all those places are in Dublin, doesn't really bother me here in the sticks.

The Glanbia Cow Shed?

For Forks Sake

Zaph wrote: »

United Park, home of Drogheda United, now goes by the catchy name of Hunky Dorys Park. In comparison to that, nothing else really sounds that bad.

Wanna bet?

Dick's Sporting Goods Park

CrabRevolution

veryangryman wrote: »

Appreciate the joke but I also meant monaghan fcs ground

Stupid Irish. Get into your local team.

Never mind the fact its about 2.5 hours away from me, i would have difficulty watching Monaghan FC seeing as they folded last year.

holystungun9

The central metro station in Madrid is now being sponsored by Vodafone. Don't know the terms of the deal or for how long it lasts but the fact that the signage has been changed from Sol to Vodafone Sol doesn't really bother me. I'm sure the gov are getting a pretty penny for it.

If the Luas was Sony Jervis or Microsoft Abbey Street, it might be a bit lame but with a time restriction (2 / 3 years) and money generated, many people would prob forgive it.

Cookie_Monster

Smithy90 wrote: »

or Sears tower in Chichago?

no such place, it's been renamed. In fairness this is just a private commercial building and is named for the main anchor tenant. This makes sense. Branding public buildings, streets and arenas is a bit different.

Richard Hillman

I think we should start selling the naming rights to of bank holidays. Dublin Airport could raise millions but there is some silly rule about naming public buildings

TPD

o2 should have called it the point o2 and three could then have renamed it the point three.

Also, hope their gold sim contracts aren't revoked.

kksaints

Isnt the blackhorse luas stop named after the pub beside it?

Doom

The "Buckfast" theatre is better or even "Durex" Park....

Doom

Doom wrote: »

The "Buckfast" theatre is better or even "Durex" Park....

There's a lot of parks that could carry that name, colloquially at least

3DataModem

lintdrummer wrote: »

! The "Aviva Stadium" is Landsowne Rd.

Not to me. It'll always be the Royal Irish Park Stadium.

keith16

The Aviva is particularly galling. Why should they have exclusive naming rights over a stadium that was heavily financed from the public purse?

3DataModem

lintdrummer wrote: »

This really annoys me. How ridiculous does "The Bord Gais Energy Theatre" sound? It's the Grand Canal Theatre! The "Aviva Stadium" is Landsowne Rd.

The "grand canal company" was a private company that completed the canal. Learn some flipping history.

3DataModem

keith16 wrote: »

The Aviva is particularly galling. Why should they have exclusive naming rights over a stadium that was heavily financed from the public purse?

Because the owners said "who wants to pay to name this stadium" and Aviva said "us"?

dfx-

Zaph wrote: »

United Park, home of Drogheda United, now goes by the catchy name of Hunky Dorys Park. In comparison to that, nothing else really sounds that bad.

Or Strokestown Road in Longford..."City Calling Stadium" :eek:

The entire opposite however is calling a football ground "Fahy's Field". They should be relegated for this.

lintdrummer

3DataModem wrote: »

The "grand canal company" was a private company that completed the canal. Learn some flipping history.

Welcome to the thread, why not read it and see that this has already been pointed out and I still think it's a terrible argument. "Grand" and "Canal" are two common English words, unlike Aviva etc.

3DataModem

lintdrummer wrote: »

What got me thinking about this today is the news that 3 are taking over o2 Ireland and all o2 branding is to disappear. I assume that they're going to call the point depot "

You mean the Point Theatre, that opened as a commercial business less than 30 years ago? In what way is it a landmark? Because the historical figure Huey Lewis played the first gig there?

3DataModem

lintdrummer wrote: »

Welcome to the thread, why not read it and see that this has already been pointed out and I still think it's a terrible argument. "Grand" and "Canal" are two common English words, unlike Aviva etc.

So everything should be named after common English words? Also not a great argument.

Chucken

Chucken wrote: »

But all those places are in Dublin, doesn't really bother me here in the sticks.

Thomond Park was shortlisted for a branding exercise but it never happened thankfully.