Fluoride in tap water

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FREETV wrote: »

At last someone who appears to agree with me and hopefully won't ask any awkward questions I don't have answers to.

Better...

FREETV

FREETV wrote: »

That eviro.ie pdf was advocated by a person with no financial gain or interest whatsoever and it states that if you read it.

FREETV, that doesn't answer any of the questions I posed to you in the post your quoted.
It's clear that you're not even reading responses, instead you're just parroting anti-science garbage.

I suggest getting a blog. There no one will bother you with differing opinions and uncomfortable facts.

zenno

I'm not going to get into all this again but i will say, as i have said before, that there is a human rights issue regarding forced medication of fluoride on a population.

I'm sure it will be stopped in the near future but who would honestly pay for tap-water that is being used to medicate a population, it's time to remove it from the main drinking water supply.

maringo

Its a fact that most European countries have banned the use of flouride in their water. France has never flouridated its water. There's some evidence apparently that it weakens bone. There's some evidence that it protects teeth. Would be interesting to see a poll on whether Irish people want their water to be medicated with it. Is it possible to be overdosed if you drink a lot of tea and tap water, use flouridated toothpaste too.\ I often wonder if someone soaks in a bath are they absorbing extra flouride. Saw the below and tbh I'd prefer my water flouride free especially now that I'll be paying for it soon through metering - not that we never paid for it as taxpayers up till now.

http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/oral-care/products/fluoride-poisoning.htm

Down the line if its proved to be causing damage to people's health I foresee compensation cases by the sackful. Guess who'll pay for that?

FREETV

King Mob wrote: »

FREETV, that doesn't answer any of the questions I posed to you in the post your quoted.
It's clear that you're not even reading responses, instead you're just parroting anti-science garbage.

I suggest getting a blog. There no one will bother you with differing opinions and uncomfortable facts.

I don't talk garbage at all and this isn't for my ego of which one I don't have it is to awaken people to the reality. There are many ex government scientist whistleblowers worldwide and independent studies also prove the severe adverse links to health caused by fluoridation. The second last Minister for Health agreed that it caused cancer on national television, it was posted on youtube.
I am not interested in blogging.

FREETV

Water supply should be free. Fcuk the Troika and the EU!

maringo

maringo wrote: »

Its a fact that most European countries have banned the use of flouride in their water. France has never flouridated its water.

This is not a fact. Most Europeans countries just don't do it. It's not banned by any of them.
This is another scary sounding myth invented by people who are against fluoridation.

FREETV

zenno wrote: »

I'm not going to get into all this again but i will say, as i have said before, that there is a human rights issue regarding forced medication of fluoride on a population.

I'm sure it will be stopped in the near future but who would honestly pay for tap-water that is being used to medicate a population, it's time to remove it from the main drinking water supply.

Agreed, why are they so slow to remove it, I know of a person who has access to the information and he is a no nonsense type of individual and he agrees with what you and I have been saying in this thread.

I am not going to get him fired by saying anymore. :P

FREETV

FREETV wrote: »

I don't talk garbage at all and this isn't for my ego of which one I don't have it is to awaken people to the reality..

So why then you are dodging questions and claiming things that aren't true?
You'd think that someone interested in the truth wouldn't do that...

For example, you claimed that fluoride was used in concentration camps. I showed this is not true.
Why did you claim that it was?

zenno

You have to understand also that it is a lot bigger than just the drinking water. Any water based food produced in Ireland has an amount of fluoride in it as well so people are actually ingesting a lot more than the so-called recommended amount when you add the food-stuffs into it.

It's in almost everything.

FREETV

zenno wrote: »

You have to understand also that it is a lot bigger than just the drinking water. Any water based food produced in Ireland has an amount of fluoride in it as well so people are actually ingesting a lot more than the so-called recommended amount when you add the food-stuffs into it.

It's in almost everything.

In the black coatings of frying pans too I believe as well as dental products, rashers, sausages, burgers, frozen foods, fizzy drinks, alcohol, moisturisers, shower gels, creams, shampoos, you name it it is in it.

zenno

King Mob wrote: »

This is not a fact. Most Europeans countries just don't do it. It's not banned by any of them.
This is another scary sounding myth invented by people who are against fluoridation.

It would make you wonder though why Germany decided to remove its fluoride from their own supply after only 2 years ? did they realise it was not a healthy option after all ?.

FREETV

King Mob wrote: »

So why then you are dodging questions and claiming things that aren't true?
You'd think that someone interested in the truth wouldn't do that...

For example, you claimed that fluoride was used in concentration camps. I showed this is not true.
Why did you claim that it was?

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/oct/06/critics-water-fluoridation/truth-about-fluoride-doesnt-include-nazi-myth/

http://canadianawareness.org/2012/03/water-fluoridation-directly-linked-to-eugenics/

Hitler may have not used it but I wasn't around then to be one hundred percent sure of that fact.

maringo

King Mob wrote: »

This is not a fact. Most Europeans countries just don't do it. It's not banned by any of them.
This is another scary sounding myth invented by people who are against fluoridation.

Most of them after some investigation have decided not to add it to their citizens' water supply. That is a fact. It is also a fact that people's teeth are not any better in flouridated water countries. That's also a fact. So the tooth protection from caries is a complete myth. Good dental hygiene and diet is what has improved people's teeth. There have also not been studies of the damage done to the environment and the creatures that inhabit it. I still say if in doubt leave it out.

maringo

maringo wrote: »

Most of them after some investigation have decided not to add it to their citizens' water supply.

zenno wrote: »

It would make you wonder though why Germany decided to remove its fluoride from their own supply after only 2 years ? did they realise it was not a healthy option after all ?.

The claim was that it was banned.
You both now are moving the goalposts to avoid the fact that the original claim, that it was banned, is false.

Yet I wager that you will still go on to say it was banned because it sounds scarier.

zenno

It's all about the money.

The chemical company/companies of which supply fluoride to Ireland will be down hugely in profits if the government stop fluoridation, this is a fact, and also a reason as to why fluoridation continues till this day unfortunately.

zenno

King Mob wrote: »

The claim was that it was banned.
You both now are moving the goalposts to avoid the fact that the original claim, that it was banned, is false.

Yet I wager that you will still go on to say it was banned because it sounds scarier.

Where in my comment or in the document was the word banned mentioned ? I never said it was banned.

FREETV

maringo wrote: »

Most of them after some investigation have decided not to add it to their citizens' water supply. That is a fact. It is also a fact that people's teeth are not any better in flouridated water countries. That's also a fact. So the tooth protection from caries is a complete myth. Good dental hygiene and diet is what has improved people's teeth. There have also not been studies of the damage done to the environment and the creatures that inhabit it. I still say if in doubt leave it out.

True, what is your opinion on chemtrails too if you don't mind me going off topic for a minute?

I thought that it was nonsense until I did a little research.

FREETV

zenno wrote: »

It's all about the money.

The chemical company/companies of which supply fluoride to Ireland will be down hugely in profits if the government stop fluoridation, this is a fact, and also a reason as to why fluoridation continues till this day unfortunately.

Yep, I stated that earlier and so did my DOE contact as well to me but I was slated by others.

FREETV

FREETV wrote: »

Hitler may have not used it but I wasn't around then to be one hundred percent sure of that fact.

No you said that he did use it. I provided that link which showed how they researched this and found no evidence for your claim. Your link offers zero evidence.

It's not true. It's a myth that you believed wholesale without a scrap of research and presented it as fact.

FREETV

King Mob wrote: »

No you said that he did use it. I provided that link which showed how they researched this and found no evidence for your claim. Your link offers zero evidence.

It's not true. It's a myth that you believed wholesale without a scrap of research and presented it as fact.

I actually sent you on a link that said that he didn't but I wasn't born until 1975 so how could I know for sure?
Speculation at best, isn't that what they also say about the proven ET presence?

zenno

zenno wrote: »

Where in my comment or in the document was the word banned mentioned ? I never said it was banned.

Where did I say that you did?

The post you were quoting was referring to a different post which indeed used the word "banned".

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=85145617&postcount=98

Fluoridation is not banned anywhere. That claim is at best a dishonest twisting of facts.

FREETV

FREETV wrote: »

I actually sent you on a link that said he didn't but I wasn't born until 1975 so how could I know for sure?

Yes, I posted that link after you made the claim to show how false it was.

If you didn't and can't know for sure, why did you present the claim as a fact?

zenno

King Mob wrote: »

Where did I say that you did?

The post you were quoting was referring to a different post which indeed used the word "banned".

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=85145617&postcount=98

Fluoridation is not banned anywhere. That claim is at best a dishonest twisting of facts.

I was referring to this post you made below, including me as having said it was banned which i did not ...I never even said it was false either.

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Originally Posted by zenno
It would make you wonder though why Germany decided to remove its fluoride from their own supply after only 2 years ? did they realise it was not a healthy option after all ?.

The claim was that it was banned.
You both now are moving the goalposts to avoid the fact that the original claim, that it was banned, is false.

Yet I wager that you will still go on to say it was banned because it sounds scarier.

FREETV

King Mob wrote: »

Yes, I posted that link after you made the claim to show how false it was.

If you didn't and can't know for sure, why did you present the claim as a fact?

As I hated what he did to the six million Jews, I thought that he was capable of doing anything and I just didn't research it thoroughly enough it seems, I typed in a different Google search.

zenno

zenno wrote: »

I was referring to this post you made below, including me as having said it was banned which i did not ...

Again, no where in that post did I say that you did say it was banned.
I said the original claim was that it was banned. The original claim was quoted my the post of mine you quoted.

Do you agree that the claim that fluoridation is banned in Europe is in fact false?
If so, what was the point you were trying to make by posting that letter?

zenno

King Mob wrote: »

Again, no where in that post did I say that you did say it was banned.
I said the original claim was that it was banned. The original claim was quoted my the post of mine you quoted.

Do you agree that the claim that fluoridation is banned in Europe is in fact false?
If so, what was the point you were trying to make by posting that letter?

I believe that fluoridation in Europe was stopped. Not banned.

FREETV

FREETV wrote: »

As I hated what he did to the six million Jews, I thought that he was capable of doing anything and I just didn't research it thoroughly enough it seems, I typed in a different Google search.

And don't you worry that maybe repeating such false claims is undermining your position?
And maybe that if you didn't bother to research it, then maybe some of the other claims you are repeating without checking are also false?

zenno

zenno wrote: »

I believe that fluoridation in Europe was stopped. Not banned.

So then why do you think that all of the anti fluoridation sites and folks like maringo claim it was banned, which is not true?

maringo

FREETV wrote: »

True, what is your opinion on chemtrails too if you don't mind me going off topic for a minute?

What have chemtrails got to do with flouridation of water? Just attempting to have a rational discussion if that's possible = but its obviously not so I'm over and out ....