5c or 10c Refunds for Cans and Bottles

iamstop

Why is this not a thing in Ireland? Most States in the US and Provinces in the CA have it that if you return your empties you get a nominal refund. Some it's 10 or 15 cents even.
I think it would help reduce litter and promote recycling. All the folks who go knacker drinking might actually take their rubbish with them!

FearDark

20c back for every bottle in NZ.
Nice little incentive to drink more.

Micky Dolenz

10c return in Belgium but they add it on the original price when you buy it so it evens out.

hfallada

I was in Germany and 6 bottles of beer in lidl were 1.69 and the bottle deposit was 1.50. But business in Germany have found it easy to avoid like most things governments introduce. If you make a bottle 3 liter you pay a deposit. But if its 3001 ml you dont have to.

If you want to save bottles do want some cities want to do in America which ban bottled water. Why ship water from Fuji to Europe when there general is nothing wrong with irish water

scoobydoobie

I remember they used to do it in the 80s, i think it was the clear glass lemonade bottles, and you got about 10p.

MadsL

hfallada wrote: »

I was in Germany and 6 bottles of beer in lidl were 1.69 and the bottle deposit was 1.50. But business in Germany have found it easy to avoid like most things governments introduce. If you make a bottle 3 liter you pay a deposit. But if its 3001 ml you dont have to.

If you want to save bottles do want some cities want to do in America which ban bottled water. Why ship water from Fuji to Europe when there general is nothing wrong with irish water

Fluoride?

LETHAL LADY

It was done here, well when I was a kid you could get money for returning glass bottles to the pub. l think it was about 10 pence a bottle, don't know why it stopped.

JackieChan

scoobydoobie wrote: »

I remember they used to do it in the 80s, i think it was the clear glass lemonade bottles, and you got about 10p.

Brings back memories, I remember storing the old TK bottles in the shed and bringing them back to the shops in loads. for the 80 or 90p!

MadsL

The Czechs used to do it, twas great getting full bottles of beer in exchange for empty ones. The magic never got old.

The Backwards Man

Aren't a lot of bottles not refilled any more? Just crushed and recycled?

returnNull

the money you get back is added to what you originally paid for the drink.You dont get money for nothing its just a way to make sure you recycle

Micky Dolenz

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Aren't a lot of bottles not refilled any more? Just crushed and recycled?

In Ireland glass is crushed and recycled. In a lot of other European countries, bottles are sent back to the brewer and refilled.

Phill Ewinn

Would probably cost more to implement than it's worth. Bit like losing money on parking charges. Sell your old clothes instead.

zenno

iamstop wrote: »

Why is this not a thing in Ireland? Most States in the US and Provinces in the CA have it that if you return your empties you get a nominal refund. Some it's 10 or 15 cents even.
I think it would help reduce litter and promote recycling. All the folks who go knacker drinking might actually take their rubbish with them!

I'd be rich if they done that here, the amount of cans i dump a week is phenomenal. Great idea though.

returnNull wrote: »

the money you get back is added to what you originally paid for the drink.You dont get money for nothing its just a way to make sure you recycle

You get money from your empty cans so it's not money for nothing.

Lingua Franca

Here in the Netherlands a 1.5 - 2l bottle of lemonade has 25c tacked onto the price. A crate of beer is about 10 euro + 3.90 tacked on. You get that back when you return the bottles and crate. It's great, it encourages recycling and also means you can easily start a small food and beverage savings account in the shed. My fella used to chuck all his empties out onto the balcony and called it his savings account. One tight week he and his flatmate brought the empties back and got about 60 euro.

shruikan2553

hfallada wrote: »

Why ship water from Fuji to Europe when there general is nothing wrong with irish water

Galway...

Other than fluoride the water tends to be fine but its the pipes it goes through that are the problem.

syklops

MadsL wrote: »

The Czechs used to do it, twas great getting full bottles of beer in exchange for empty ones. The magic never got old.

Still do do it. Its funny seeing winos the morning after a gig or party picking up glass bottles to get the money for them. No wonder the place looks cleaner.

First time I bought beer there, it was 104 czk for 10 bottles of beer, which is just over 4 euros, but you get 3 czk back for every bottle you take back, so over all 10 beers only cost around 2.80.

locum-motion

MadsL wrote: »

Fluoride?

Yep. Exactly. Nothing wrong with Irish water.

smileyj1987

It can only be a good thing it incentives recycling and it means cheaper bin rates for those without glass bins .

syklops

locum-motion wrote: »

Yep. Exactly. Nothing wrong with Irish water.

Go to Galway, drink the water, get comfortable on the throne, you'll be there for a week.

questionmark?

Seen it in Denmark as well. Plastic, glass and cans all had a tax. The homeless would walk around picking up any discarded ones. Kept the place nice and clean.

Seaneh

syklops wrote: »

Go to Galway, drink the water, get comfortable on the throne, you'll be there for a week.

Are you stuck in a small period of time which ended about 5 years ago or something?

The water in Galway is fine.

Hownowcow

I remember as a child getting refunds on bottles too.

Believe it or not, at the time you could pay into the local cinema with jam jars. I had forgotten about it until I read this thread.

About ten years ago I used to bring in my drinks cans to a colleague in the job. Her children's school used to raise money from them.

syklops

Seaneh wrote: »

Are you stuck in a small period of time which ended about 5 years ago or something?

The water in Galway is fine.

No, I have elderly parents who cannot trust the water supply that they have to pay for. The first time there was a contaminant in the water the alert went out via the weekly church newsletter. The authorities werent exactly Johnny on the spot.

You talk like galways water wasnt ok, for a day a few years ago.

Boil Notice for mid-galway 7 months ago

Some parts of galway have had boil notices for over a decade.

MadsL

syklops wrote: »

Still do do it. Its funny seeing winos the morning after a gig or party picking up glass bottles to get the money for them. No wonder the place looks cleaner.

First time I bought beer there, it was 104 czk for 10 bottles of beer, which is just over 4 euros, but you get 3 czk back for every bottle you take back, so over all 10 beers only cost around 2.80.

Newbie. In 1993 a beer ran about CZK 2.80 or about 7 pence GBP

syklops

MadsL wrote: »

Newbie. In 1993 a beer ran about CZK 2.80 or about 7 pence GBP

In a pub or supermarket?

iamstop

So we all pretty much agree we should reinstate this kind of system then yeah?

syklops

iamstop wrote: »

So we all pretty much agree we should reinstate this kind of system then yeah?

Just looked in my drinks cabinet. If this was reinstated at 10c a bottle Id have enough for a Mars bar and a cup of tae.

Instead, the contents is going in the rubbish. Yeah I agree it should be reinstated.

MadsL

syklops wrote: »

In a pub or supermarket?

1993 Prague asks "what's a supermarket?" but yes in a shop. Beer in pub was between 6-20 CZK. Say 15-50 pence GBP.

BNMC

Yes, I think it should definitely be reinstated. Make all the people on the dole earn their €188 per week this way.

Padkir

BNMC wrote: »

Yes, I think it should definitely be reinstated. Make all the people on the dole earn their €188 per week this way.

By turning into glass bottles??

syklops

MadsL wrote: »

1993 Prague asks "what's a supermarket?" but yes in a shop. Beer in pub was between 6-20 CZK. Say 15-50 pence GBP.

Well the currency has strengthened quite a bit since then. Now one of the strongest in europe. A beer in a pub is 25-35 in 'normal' places, but 31 is about 1 GBP, so its maybe doubled in price.

In the example I gave earlier, 10 bottles for 104 czk, is 10czk per bottle, which is 33 pence GBP.

returnNull

zenno wrote: »

You get money from your empty cans so it's not money for nothing.

yes but the money you get back is added on to the price you paid in the first place for the drink.If you dont return the can you are down how ever much extra was added on to the retail price.Give the can back you break even.

Cookie_Monster

FearDark wrote: »

20c back for every bottle in NZ.
Nice little incentive to drink more.

where? I've never seen that anywhere in NZ

zenno

BNMC wrote: »

Yes, I think it should definitely be reinstated. Make all the people on the dole earn their €188 per week this way.

FFS, would someone please close the door on this, pretty please with icing on top.

Dole thread that a way

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Tigger

MadsL wrote: »

Fluoride?

and faeces

JD DABA

returnNull wrote: »

yes but the money you get back is added on to the price you paid in the first place for the drink.If you dont return the can you are down how ever much extra was added on to the retail price.Give the can back you break even.

So its a bit like the shopping trolley system then....bring it back to the yoke for your euro.


Sounds good, I see we're all in accord, so lets progress to the next Irish stage and do absolutely nothing about it.

Cookie_Monster

Of course it sounds good but where is the money going to come from?

Are coke/ diageo / whoever going to accept & pay for returns, strip the labels, wash the bottles, QC them and then re-use them or are they going to just use cheaper new bottles? All while having to increase the cost of their product, employ more people to process returns, increased spend on detergent and washing etc?

And the reason milk comes in plastic now is that people decided resused glass was somehow dirty or unpleasant, certainly a problem you'd encounter again.

Adyx

A lot of pub standard bottles are returnable. Basically, if it comes in a crate it gets returned. If it's in a box/plastic wrap, it gets recycled. a pub I worked in years ago had an off-licence where we would sell pint bottles of Guinness to auld fellas and they always made sure to return the bottles because we'd give them the money off their next purchase.

Norwesterner

scoobydoobie wrote: »

I remember they used to do it in the 80s, i think it was the clear glass lemonade bottles, and you got about 10p.

As a kid back then, this was a huge source of my income.

Norwesterner

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Of course it sounds good but where is the money going to come from?

Are coke/ diageo / whoever going to accept & pay for returns, strip the labels, wash the bottles, QC them and then re-use them or are they going to just use cheaper new bottles? All while having to increase the cost of their product, employ more people to process returns, increased spend on detergent and washing etc?

And the reason milk comes in plastic now is that people decided resused glass was somehow dirty or unpleasant, certainly a problem you'd encounter again.

The reason it comes in plastic is that it makes bigger profits to the manufacturers.
I've never heard anyone complain about reused glass bottles.
Your bottles of Heineken and Budweiser are all reused.

kneemos

locum-motion wrote: »

Yep. Exactly. Nothing wrong with Irish water.

I don't know what's in it or if it's any harm but even at the best of times there is a definite colour difference between bottled and tap water around here,at the worst of times it looks like pond water.Bottled for me.

Stinicker

On my first visit to the USA I casually noticed my cousins throwing their plastic bottles out the window into their backyard from their apartment window, I asked them why the littering and they explained how some woman (not homeless) picks them up and recycles them and gets a nickle per bottle. Ingenoius idea and a few days later I encountered this woman driving a shopping trolley along the street full of these bottles making her rounds and according to my cousins she can sometimes make a grand a week depending on how many bottles she finds, sporting events on a hot day being a gold mine for her.

JonEBGud

When I was a small fellow we used to get 6d (six pence old money) for flagon bottles and 3d for mineral bottles.
And milk bottles were returned every day to be refilled.

Cookie_Monster

Norwesterner wrote: »

Your bottles of Heineken and Budweiser are all reused.

no they're not, they get crushed and added to the furnace for making new ones, they don't get washed and re-used directly.

FameHungry

That money would definitely add up pretty quickly, would be great

Adyx

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

no they're not, they get crushed and added to the furnace for making new ones, they don't get washed and re-used directly.

Pub bottles do.

MadsL

All glass is recycled off-island after the closure of Irish Glass so not a huge environmental gain in many ways. Such a scheme would need to linked to decent on-island processing.

IM0

scoobydoobie wrote: »

I remember they used to do it in the 80s, i think it was the clear glass lemonade bottles, and you got about 10p.

Norwesterner wrote: »

As a kid back then, this was a huge source of my income.

fairly sure you mean pocket money. income lol

cherryghost

In Argentina the refund amounts are crazy.

For 1L glass beer bottles, in one supermarket drop off you get the equivalent of 50 cents a bottle. 50 cents!

There's also two types of Coca Cola bottles. Ones with yellow caps mean you can return them to a shop and purchase another yellow capped one at a discounted price. The yellow capped bottles are sent back and refilled. The yellow ones are about 30-40 cents cheaper than the red capped ones.

kylith

MadsL wrote: »

1993 Prague asks "what's a supermarket?" but yes in a shop. Beer in pub was between 6-20 CZK. Say 15-50 pence GBP.

I was there in 2000, and I think it was the equivalent of £1.50 for a beer, with a 0.50p return on the bottle. Good days; stashing the booze under a pier in the river, absinthe round the campfie... Ah, memories...