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Can Liam Gallagher do a Johnny Rotten (ie PIL)??

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    #32
    --Kaiser--
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    Hownowcow wrote: »
    Can Liam Gallagher influence music the way that Johnny Rotten and the Pistols did? No.

    'Sex Pistols' and 'music' in the same sentence....snigger


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    #33
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    Liam Gallagher is the greatest cnut of all time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QR6u_9m5lY


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    #34
    gramar
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    why is this in after hours?
    Beady eye are rubbish and Liam is a prick. I wish them all the worst and I won't be wasting anymore time on the subject.


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    #35
    Rented Mule
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    ArtSmart wrote: »
    on later with jools. possible

    Would love to see what would happen if he got Steve Vai to play guitar on the album.


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    #36
    Rented Mule
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    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    'Sex Pistols' and 'music' in the same sentence....snigger

    Say what you want. They helped save rock and roll.


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    #37
    Flimbos
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    Had to laugh at Liam slagging off Daft Punk last week. He has form for this kind of rubbish, but this was a new low for him, piggybacking on someone else's success...

    He made the headlines because of it though. Oh and wait, what a coincidence, it just so happens his band are releasing a new album next week :rolleyes:


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    #38
    Reamer Fanny
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    What's a PIL?


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    #39
    phelixoflaherty
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylOCIP54PIQ


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    #40
    Nodin
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    i can't imagine anything less interesting
    justryan wrote: »
    What's a PIL?

    It's not the beatles.


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    #41
    inmyday
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    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    Liam Gallagher is the greatest cnut of all time.
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    You seem lovely yourself Mr. Gallagher


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    #42
    anncoates
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    A derivative thick like Liam Gallagher could only dream of creating some of PIL's best work.


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    #43
    --Kaiser--
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    Rented Mule wrote: »
    Say what you want. They helped save rock and roll.

    By creating such abominable noise that real, talented musicians were motivated to make actual music?


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    #44
    JD DABA
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    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    By creating such abominable noise that real, talented musicians were motivated to make actual music?

    OooOOooOh ... get 'er


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    #45
    Rented Mule
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    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    By creating such abominable noise that real, talented musicians were motivated to make actual music?

    Taking it back to the basics.

    Anything more than three chords and you're showing off.


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    #46
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Two great Irishmen


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    #47
    old hippy
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    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    By creating such abominable noise that real, talented musicians were motivated to make actual music?

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and the Pistols were a beautiful and furious noise. I don't know if they "saved" rock and roll but they certainly re-wrote the rules.


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    #48
    --Kaiser--
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    old hippy wrote: »
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and the Pistols were a beautiful and furious noise. I don't know if they "saved" rock and roll but they certainly re-wrote the rules.

    Did they bollox. If they weren't controversial and didn't swear in interviews no one would ever have heard of them


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    #49
    mikom
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    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Did they bollox. If they weren't controversial and didn't swear in interviews no one would ever have heard of them

    Yeah.......... Oliver Reed was a shit actor..........


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    #50
    Rothko
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    i can't imagine anything less interesting
    Rented Mule wrote: »
    Say what you want. They helped save rock and roll.

    No, they didn't. Rock and roll didn't saving.


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    #51
    Clemenza
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    Beady Eye are woeful

    Noel is best shot of the lot of them


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    #52
    Wattle
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    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Did they bollox. If they weren't controversial and didn't swear in interviews no one would ever have heard of them

    Nonsense there's some great songs on Never Mind The Bollocks swearing or no swearing.


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    #53
    MadsL
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    Suas11 wrote: »
    No, they didn't. Rock and roll didn't saving.

    I agree, it needed a final solution. The best selling song of 1975 was...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUwW108ITzw


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    #54
    anncoates
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    I actually liked Oasis in their day and also Liam Gallagher as a vocalist and front man back then,

    The question though was whether he could create work on the basis of PIL (or even the Pistols) all by himself and the evidence so far is most certainly not.

    The idea that Rock and Rol needed saving id just a retrospective music press confection.


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    #55
    Irish Guitarist
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    The Sex Pistols are the only band I can think of who threw out one of their members for being too musically talented and replaced him with a total moron who could barely play an instrument.

    I once read that Steve Jones offered Glen Matlock a sandwich. When he started eating the sandwich he said "this mayonnaise tastes weird". It turned out it wasn't mayonnaise at all; Steve Jones had masturbated into the sandwich.

    I could never stand Liam Gallagher. I used to think Oasis had some good songs that were spoiled by his annoying voice.


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    #56
    --Kaiser--
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    mikom wrote: »
    Yeah.......... Oliver Reed was a shit actor..........

    Completely and utterly irrelevant. I don't care how they acted, I'm saying they had no talent and wrote terrible music


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    #57
    mikom
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    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Did they bollox. If they weren't controversial and didn't swear in interviews no one would ever have heard of them
    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Completely and utterly irrelevant. I don't care how they acted

    Hmmm....


    Musicianship is only one part by which I enjoy punk or rock music.
    If music was all about great musicianship we'd all be listening to Miles Davis, or whatever.

    Question is........ Will I be able to play a beady eye track to 10 people in 20 years time and have half of them recognise it?

    Sex pistols, one album and music history is changed forever.
    They were punk............. what came after was punk rock.



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    #58
    Rothko
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    i can't imagine anything less interesting
    MadsL wrote: »
    I agree, it needed a final solution. The best selling song of 1975 was...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUwW108ITzw

    There's more to music than what's in the charts


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    #59
    seven_eleven
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    I still have no idea what this thread is about.


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    #60
    mikom
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    seven_eleven wrote: »
    I still have no idea what this thread is about.

    The Beatles.


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    #61
    --Kaiser--
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    mikom wrote: »
    Hmmm....


    Musicianship is only one part by which I enjoy punk or rock music.
    If music was all about great musicianship we'd all be listening to Miles Davis, or whatever.

    There are other factors to musicians other than music, showmanship, character, cultural impact etc..but if they can't make good music in the first place, all else is null and void


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