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Italy or France?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    **Vai** wrote: »
    Why would anyone bomb Italy or France when they have choices like Albania and Romania??? Crap poll.

    Yes,lets make refugees of the Albanians and Romanians.After hours would melt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭patneve2


    Agree with the poster that says that Naples is an amazing city - it really is. Clean streets don't make a city amazing (Naples is filthy), but having the largest historic city centre in Europe does (1,700 hectares all listed as a unesco world heritge site)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭**Vai**


    Seaneh wrote: »
    If you'd ever been to places like Berat or Gjirokastër you'd know that yourself.

    Yeah I'd still prefer Italy or France.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    It's the Camorra who keep it down alright, it's hard for us to understand just how powerful and influential they are over there. The waste disposal problem which blights the city is down to them choking the unions. In recent years they've illegally dumped toxic waste in the surrounding countryside which has had a devastating effect on agriculture.

    It's hard to stop them, they've infiltrated local politics through vote buying, they then blackmail the city officials they get elected.

    It's different to La Cosa Nostra in Sicily because their structure isn't the traditional military chain of command. There's no one leader it's split into different factions. So a piece of legislation like 'RICO' in the states for instance wouldn't be effective.

    Also unlike Cosa Nostra they've no code of 'honour', they see police and prosecutors as legitimate targets to kill.

    Yes I know all this and agree with you. But getting rid of the Camorra would be like the Irish ditching Fianna Fáil & Fine Gael and the whole civil war politic, it's ingrained in them. They are joined at the hip. Buy almost anything in Naples and you're funding the Camorra in one way or another. It's a vicious circle.

    The ironic thing about the rubbish piles is that 90% of it isn't even Napolitan rubbish. It's rubbish that's been brought in from cities in Southern France and Northern Italy.

    I've always maintained that the biggest problem in Naples and the larger Campania region, is not the Camorra, but the few bent politicians that facilitate their operations.


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